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DB
February 10, 2024, 6:06pm
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The fans have backed the club with back-to-back season ticket sales

We’ve been badly let down by two multi millionaire owners who seem more concerned with B-Corp status and Scotch eggs

Genuine question - what is the actual point of either of them being involved if this is the best they can offer?


Maybe it's the fact that they have given us more in 2 completed seasons than the previous owner did in nearly 20 years. Today's performance, and the last few home games, have been dire. Rome wasn't built in a day and I'm sure JS & AP are quick learners. 3 from bottom is as good as 8th from top and a new season to look forward to.

Artels tactics are good if we had the players to do it, so survival it is.



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The fans have backed the club with back-to-back season ticket sales

We’ve been badly let down by two multi millionaire owners who seem more concerned with B-Corp status and Scotch eggs

Genuine question - what is the actual point of either of them being involved if this is the best they can offer?


I'd like to know this too. I know it's tongue in cheek about the whole B-Corp and scotch eggs stuff, but what is the long term plan for the for the club? We went up, had an average-ish league performance and an incredible cup run, but where's it all gone? We've sold so many season tickets, more shirts than we probably have in the previous 5 seasons in 1, more merchandise than any other season and fan buy-in that cannot be measured that feeds all into this.

Where are we going?

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Oh and the mindless booing of short pass and the shouts to launch it are a pure embarrassment. They players are struggling, that sort of nonsense just makes it worse.
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Paul Hurst was often criticised for paying too much attention to the opposition and setting us up accordingly. I’m no expert on Stockport County, but if their commentary team are to be believed, they are the best pressing team in the division.

It feels to me like we’re currently not paying enough attention to the opposition. Playing out from the back feels like it’s the right thing to aspire to overtime and with a confident, competent team will probably take us further in the long run. It will almost certainly be better to watch. But right now we’re clearly not getting the right balance of when to do it and when not to, both in-game and in preparation for the opposition in front of us.
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3 from bottom is as good as 8th from top and a new season to look forward to.


I suspect that was our previous owners ethos and not one we should want to emulate. 3rd from bottom is effectively 2-3 wins from relegation.

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Expected it to be difficult today but that was a first half surrender.

Thompson looked ok last week, he had his bottom handed to him first half today and the defending was pitiful.

Artell has made us worse and at real risk of relegation. He's frozen out Wilson and Pyke who can score goals. He comes across as a bit of a male masturbator in his interviews. He needs to sort it out.


Thompson wasn't that bad, the two in front of him were terrible however.. and how on earth has he frozen out Pyke? The blokes been injured but started every single game before hand and Wilson doesn't want to be here. The problem isn't going forward, it's at the back.
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Maybe it's the fact that they have given us more in 2 completed seasons than the previous owner did in nearly 20 years. Today's performance, and the last few home games, have been dire. Rome wasn't built in a day and I'm sure JS & AP are quick learners. 3 from bottom is as good as 8th from top and a new season to look forward to.

Artels tactics are good if we had the players to do it, so survival it is.



Yeah but we haven’t got the players to play it and the one who can has been frozen out. I’m surprised that you equate finishing 8th and 22nd because I can’t see as many renewing STs if we finish just above the drop.
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I suspect that was our previous owners ethos and not one we should want to emulate. 3rd from bottom is effectively 2-3 wins from relegation.



But at the end of the season, those two below you get relegated. I don't know what JS & AP had in mind for this season, given last years, but I don't think a relegation fight was part of it.

We are where we are and a relegation fight it is. 16 games to go so anywhere from 3rd from bottom upwards.



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Artell is the denominator here . He’s made his bed . We will play out from the back . Cartwright follows the instructions. It goes wrong. DA blames the players.

Who’s wrong? I know . We all know.


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The fans have backed the club with back-to-back season ticket sales

We’ve been badly let down by two multi millionaire owners who seem more concerned with B-Corp status and Scotch eggs

Genuine question - what is the actual point of either of them being involved if this is the best they can offer?


Jesus Christ, whining about b corp and scotch eggs - I honestly doubt "fans" like yourself give a toss about the club, you just want a good whinge. urine off.
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