Ukraine War

Having lived under Soviet rule, is it any wonder that so many countries wish to join NATO. Putin’s threats against Sweden and Finland are more likely to encourage their membership, rather than discourage it.

If this continues to escalate, we could well end up with Russia, China and various other hangers on (Belarus, Syria, N Korea) v the rest of the world. Terrifying stuff!

Quoted from blundellpork

Having lived under Soviet rule, is it any wonder that so many countries wish to join NATO. Putin’s threats against Sweden and Finland are more likely to encourage their membership, rather than discourage it.

If this continues to escalate, we could well end up with Russia, China and various other hangers on (Belarus, Syria, N Korea) v the rest of the world. Terrifying stuff!

China, this far, have refused to stand by their Russian allies. They’ve stopped short of denouncing them, but this is still politically significant.

Russia is completely alone in the world right now.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I see the EU has now banned all Russian aircraft from their airspace and state-owned media such as RT and Sputnik.

I wonder when we will follow suit. Where will Humbercod get his information from then?

Steve Bannon.

Quoted from chaos33

I think you’ve missed the point about Canada/Wales, and you seem to be advocating further and more extreme military responses as an antidote to the crisis. That, is what’s truly absurd.

Yes, because making it impossible for Putin to successfully invade any NATO countries requires that. The historical precedent is 1938 not de-escalation like 1961/62, unless you think the people of Ukraine should be bombed to oblivion and of Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania subject to constant cyberattack, false flag tactics followed by invasion. The Germans have just voted to increase military spending by an unprecedented level, bringing them to the 2% NATO threshold and close to UK and French levels. Russia are at circa 5% and they can't really afford it without their massive hydrocarbon exports.

Putin has to be deposed by the Russians, his position at home has to become untenable through being an international pariah country with a collapsing economy - and bodybags from Ukraine.

Quoted from Poojah

China, this far, have refused to stand by their Russian allies. They’ve stopped short of denouncing them, but this is still politically significant.

Russia is completely alone in the world right now.

I honestly think this will end with Putin being deposed. It’s just a question of how long it takes & how much damage is done in that time.

It could well be very soon if the sanctions keep coming and Russia’s economy is devastated.

Quoted from Poojah

China, this far, have refused to stand by their Russian allies. They’ve stopped short of denouncing them, but this is still politically significant.

Russia is completely alone in the world right now.

No, they still have Belarus!

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Yes, because making it impossible for Putin to successfully invade any NATO countries requires that. The historical precedent is 1938 not de-escalation like 1961/62, unless you think the people of Ukraine should be bombed to oblivion and of Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania subject to constant cyberattack, false flag tactics followed by invasion. The Germans have just voted to increase military spending by an unprecedented level, bringing them to the 2% NATO threshold and close to UK and French levels. Russia are at circa 5% and they can't really afford it without their massive hydrocarbon exports.

Putin has to be deposed by the Russians, his position at home has to become untenable through being an international pariah country with a collapsing economy - and bodybags from Ukraine.

Yeah it’s a good post mate. What a mess.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

No, they still have Belarus!

and Uzbekistan!

Quoted from GrimRob

and Uzbekistan!

Kazakhstan told them to fúck off though when they asked for support from their troops.

This in itself is significant; I understand through my cultural learnings that they are the number one exporter of potassium. All other countries have inferior potassium.

Russia’s central bank has more than doubled interest rates from 9.5% to an eye watering record high of 20%. This is on the back of 7 interest rate increases last year from the record low for Russian interest rate.

Ouch.