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Quoted from GollyGTFC

They’re not. Don’t believe everything anything you read in the Daily Mail/Express.

Just edited that for you Golly

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Just edited that for you Golly

Or any paper with a political affiliation of course. Or the laughably named Independent.

Quoted from Stadium

Have you evidence of that??
Its seems that advice was furnished & ignored in general.
Another poster slated the scientific input but has this this been proved to be ineffective if taken on time ??

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m2014/rr-2
https://www.independent.co.uk/.....burley-a9522266.html

I can see your links but I would say having the worst death rate and biggest hit to the economy shows how badly they have fared. I think the vast majority have followed advice as much as possible , the fact is we initially followed Patrick Vallance’s he’d immunity theory instead of trying to keep the virus out, every country that has concentrated on keeping the virus at the border has fared much better. It is up to those to make themselves heard if they believe the politicians are twisting their advice and threaten to resign. Their reputation must take a hit when the advice results in so many deaths
There is often a fear of calling out medical “experts” Shipman carried on for years without question, on every measure we are near the bottom of the league, those dishing out advice and those policing things have failed

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Or any paper with a political affiliation of course. Or the laughably named Independent.

Well, it's owned by a Russian Oligarch and a puppet of the Saudi Regime and tends to back the LibDems during elections (as has the Graun much of the time), despite the otherwise left-leaning coverage. If you remember back to the 2015 election, the newspaper had been critical of the coalition and supportive of the Labour Party policies but then, out of the blue, published a very Russian-sounding editorial on the eve of the Election hoping for another coalition government. Fancy that! So, not particularly independent, but no more so than the likes of The Telegraph, Mail, Express, Sun etc. Basically all the ones with hyper-rich owners who are quite happy with the way things have gone over the last decade, thanks very much. They've all got massively richer.

Quoted from Maringer

Well, it's owned by a Russian Oligarch and a puppet of the Saudi Regime and tends to back the LibDems during elections (as has the Graun much of the time), despite the otherwise left-leaning coverage. If you remember back to the 2015 election, the newspaper had been critical of the coalition and supportive of the Labour Party policies but then, out of the blue, published a very Russian-sounding editorial on the eve of the Election hoping for another coalition government. Fancy that! So, not particularly independent, but no more so than the likes of The Telegraph, Mail, Express, Sun etc. Basically all the ones with hyper-rich owners who are quite happy with the way things have gone over the last decade, thanks very much. They've all got massively richer.

Most 'papers' today aren't newspapers at all. They are printed editions of the owners views, be it left, right or hey were in the middle. Major articles/ stories if you look at them closely refer to might/ should/ could/ may or refer to a quote from an invited question. While some of the minor articles often are true they have some biased towards something or other.

Unfortunately the days of unbiased facts have been replaced by drivel and inaccuracies. A small point of proof:- Grimsby Live headlined rubbish tipped in Humberston Road. Nothing wrong in that apart it was in South Sea Lane, off Tetney Rd. and Humberston Road is in Cleethorpes. A RT in a Cleethorpes STREET turned out to be Sandringham ROAD.

Small points you may think but if they cannot get a headline right, is the contents of the article going to be right. Incidentally I am now of the firm opinion (yep opinion) that our once quality Grimsby Telegraph Newspaper should be renamed with the old title of Grimsby Gazette. All it and it's web pages just a base for adverts.

Isn't the GET mostly phoned in from somewhere inland these days? I've only ever glanced through it when I've visited my parents' house, but it mostly seems to be sob stories about personal distress and shaming of people who have gone through the courts. Nothing much worth reading. Same goes for the sports pages in recent years as there's been nothing worth hearing about!

Quoted from Maringer

Isn't the GET mostly phoned in from somewhere inland these days? I've only ever glanced through it when I've visited my parents' house, but it mostly seems to be sob stories about personal distress and shaming of people who have gone through the courts. Nothing much worth reading. Same goes for the sports pages in recent years as there's been nothing worth hearing about!

Part of the Reach group. Reporters from Huddersfield, Scunny, Lincoln you name it they come from there. Several 'local' news stories about Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, Spilsby. Basically anything to put on a page so it can be filled with ads. The website is even worse, the ads load up first. As I said a quality paper destroyed, O they don't even do an editoral any more.

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Just edited that for you Golly

To be fair, you can trust the football results can't you?

Here's something I spotted on Twitter that shows the truth about life being unemployed in this country...

Here's something interesting...



Suddenly a lot of people have been exposed to the inadequacy of the welfare state in the UK and public opinion is shifting.

Hopefully it’s made a lot of people realise how fragile things really are.