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November 4, 2021, 5:20am
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Please, I’m begging you, stop with this tedious both-sidesism which you shoehorn into every political thread on here.

The opportunity was there in 2019 to vote for the absolute antithesis of the current political culture, and the state, the media, the establishment and even actors within the Labour Party (including the current leader) did all they could to prevent it.


If the truth hurts you, please accept my apologies. I've voted for Maggie, Blair, and Ashdown and vote how I see the politics on election day given the past and bullsh!t they say they will do. It's called freedom like you have the same freedom with your views.

I like some of your views and not others but I don't cry you down for those I'm not happy with. I am fortunate that I can see both side of an argument and the politicians all want to take the 'Middle Ground', or say they do. When you have seen it all before and today's politicians are just a regurgitation of those from the past. In today's news, we have a repeat of tory sleaze with cash for questions story. The old labour leader Corbyn reminded me of a scruffy Michael Foot in an anorak at the cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday.

Nothing changes, just names and we're gonna do this and that.



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November 4, 2021, 7:48am

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The indescribable arrogance of a few elderly generations in this country has lead us down a path which is going to cause misery and suffering to their grandchildren and those to come. They will not be forgiven.  
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November 4, 2021, 12:46pm

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The best bit of overlooked Tory sleaze of the last couple of years was when that MP was accused of a couple of counts of sexual assault, it went to court and his wife stood by him throughout. He gets found guilty, his wife complains about it being a witchhunt. He gets an appeal but is sent down for 2 years, on the day he is sentenced his wife announces that he leaving him. His wife then becomes the MP for the seat. A couple of months ago she was found to have breached the code of conduct for trying to influence senior judges in her husbands appeal, she gets a one day suspension from parliament.

Textbook tory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Elphicke


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Looks like the government is doing another U-turn after realising they have overstepped the mark at bit this time. Paterson likely to be serving his suspension before too long as the Tory MPs will realise they shat the bed and vote for the original punishment to stand.

Still, you can guarantee they will maybe have learned their lesson this time so will continue chip, chip, chipping away at the regulations in place to try and keep them honest. It will be a more gradual drift into corruption than they originally intended, but we'll get there.

On another note, it looks as though Johnson has learned his lesson after the brouhaha earlier this year as to who was paying for his holidays. This time, we at least know that it was the fabulously wealthy Lord Goldsmith who Johnson gave a life peerage as well as a job as a minister:

https://www.theguardian.com/po.....ons-marbella-holiday

Seems odd that they reveal this now after refusing to say who originally funded the holiday. Almost as if Johnson is trying a, "I've got nothing to hide!" approach whilst the spotlight is on corruption...
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Looks like the government is doing another U-turn after realising they have overstepped the mark at bit this time. Paterson likely to be serving his suspension before too long as the Tory MPs will realise they shat the bed and vote for the original punishment to stand.

Still, you can guarantee they will maybe have learned their lesson this time so will continue chip, chip, chipping away at the regulations in place to try and keep them honest. It will be a more gradual drift into corruption than they originally intended, but we'll get there.

On another note, it looks as though Johnson has learned his lesson after the brouhaha earlier this year as to who was paying for his holidays. This time, we at least know that it was the fabulously wealthy Lord Goldsmith who Johnson gave a life peerage as well as a job as a minister:

https://www.theguardian.com/po.....ons-marbella-holiday

Seems odd that they reveal this now after refusing to say who originally funded the holiday. Almost as if Johnson is trying a, "I've got nothing to hide!" approach whilst the spotlight is on corruption...


The Daily Mail’s front page today changed their mind. It wasn’t that they suddenly decided they got it wrong. The Daily Mail sent them a very direct message about who’s really in charge and the government caved in.

Of course yesterday was nothing to do with Owen Paterson. It’s about preparing for enquiry’s into COVID, Test & Trace, PPE Contracts, redecorating No. 10, free holidays etc… It was an attempt to downplay corruption in public office as an offence now & rig the system in the future knowing that Boris and his buddies will be under investigation & in the dock in the coming years.

I see OP has now stood down and said he’s going to continue his public service away from politics. I’m sure there are plenty of understaffed care homes near him who could offer him a job, but I think he might be surprised that the companies queuing up to pay him handsomely as a sitting MP won’t value his work at £1,000 an hour as a normal member of the public.

But apparently he’s the victim in all this.
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He tried to turn some of the blame onto the opposition benches in his resignation saying politics is a cruel world. They’re absolutely shameless.
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He tried to turn some of the blame onto the opposition benches in his resignation saying politics is a cruel world. They’re absolutely shameless.


No mention of politics being a corrupt world though eh?

I suppose he can go full time on his lobbying now what with all his mates on the benches he'll have the ear of.



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I'd imagine he had a word in his ear and will end up in a nice highly-paid job somewhere, with a knighthood incoming in a few years time. Who knows, perhaps he'll become a lobbyist? It seems he's got plenty of experience in the role.
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The indescribable arrogance of a few elderly generations in this country has lead us down a path which is going to cause misery and suffering to their grandchildren and those to come. They will not be forgiven.  


You make a fair comment but forget that today's youth is tomorrow's elderly and will the same then be said about them?



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You make a fair comment but forget that today's youth is tomorrow's elderly and will the same then be said about them?



Karoshi will kill our generation before we become elderly
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