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Maringer
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The 'establishment' was especially on show today. The Grauniad deliberately misreported that Corbyn thought women-only carriages on trains were a good idea when he had said nothing of the sort.

There were then a couple of pieces by a couple of columnists criticising Corbyn for promoting this policy (which was floated by the Tories last year, oddly enough), when he'd done no such thing! Quite staggering to see such dishonesty from a theoretically left-leaning national newspaper. You'd kind of expect it from right-wing rags such as the Mail or the Telegraph, but this is utterly bizarre to behold from the Graun. Absolutely shameless, the lot of them.

Makes the survival of the BBC (for all its many flaws) all the more important. You'd hope they would at least keep some semblance of impartiality to reporting.
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Yeas he's done it!! Congratulations Corbyrn, commiserations Labour.😄


Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Promise a man someone else's fish and he votes Labour.
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Interesting times ahead. Certainly going to be very different, and the electorate is definitely going to have a clear choice. If Corbin can use the young people,the newcomers,the returners to activate from the bottom up he may surprise a few people.id look at how Obama used the enthusiasm and grass roots support to launch an unstoppable campaign.already setting his stall out, embracing the unions rather than pretending they don't exist, supporting the refugees and the poor, pro environment, anti war. The environment might be an interesting area to go for given how anti green the Tories are becoming
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Let's face it, Corbyn's victory was made possible by the paucity of his opponents. Judging by her policies, Kendall is in the wrong party, Burnham and Cooper are badly tarnished by the 'New Labour' years, not to mention some nonsensical utterances and an almost complete lack of discussion of policy during the leadership contest. Cooper's main appeal seemed to be to say, "Vote for me because I'm a woman"! Ridiculous. Any time any of them mentioned the words Weimar or Zimbabwe in relation to the so-called 'Corbynomics' policies, they showed themselves utterly incapable of logic or understanding anything about economics. Cooper was the most surprising in this regard as she's a highly-qualified economist but seems to have forgotten everything she learned at university.

Will be interesting to see how Cameron's bully-boy bluster works in PMQs when he is facing Corbyn. Corbyn is certainly correct that we're crying out for a change to the punch and judy nonsense we have traditionally seen. You know, the stuff that Cameron originally claimed he was going to stop before becoming worse than anybody else at it. Corbyn does actually plan a more collegiate and democratic way of running the Labour Party which ought to make the leadership issue (so beloved by the media and the right-wingers) of less relevance. Whether or not this will be successful remains to be seen.

Good to see that the Labour party will finally be standing up to the austerian nonsense spouted about the economy after the pathetically supine approach taken since 2010. It doesn't take much to see that the current neo-liberal economic stuff which we've suffered since the days of Thatcher (thought it was slightly milder under 'New Labour') wasn't sustainable, so it will be good to have a major political party of a major nation standing up against this nonsense. Notable that Corbyn didn't just win the vote with people who signed up as 'supporters', but also with party members and the unions. No way that the Blairites can claim he hasn't won fair and square.

Once the slings and arrows start being flung (well continue, really) by the right-wing media, bear in mind that his policies aren't those of a 'looney leftie' but are actually not too far from what was Conservative Party policy in the years before Thatcher hit the scene! If you read something in the press which sounds ridiculous or outrageous, chances are he never said it or the newspaper is taking a ridiculously one-eyed view of a topic which bears little semblance to reality.

As the last election showed, a government's success or re-electability is generally judged on how the economy is performing in the lead up to the election. The Tories managed to con the electorate into thinking they were doing a good job despite the worse recovery from a recession ever (not to mention the lies about previous Labour government overspending causing the recession), in part due to the crash in oil prices and drop in inflation. Chances of them managing the same in the 5 years time look to be slim, not least because Osborne's plans to run a surplus rely on an increase in private debt and the bubble is already inflating before the next housing crash. I don't think they will be able to fend off the next crash for 5 years (or blame Europe for everything they get wrong) and no chance of getting away with another crash and another weak recovery in that tame, so interesting times ahead. If the are lucky enough to avoid another crash in the next parliament, I suppose they would be favourites but this would be by chance rather than design.

I suppose a lot depends on how much the Blairites still in the party attempt to scupper Corbyn. I see some of the shadow cabinet no-names have resigned already. Will be interesting to see who takes their place.
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His interesting start continues.other labour MPs will oppose Cameron at pmq s and he has asked all other MPs for questions they want him to ask Cameron.refreshing
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His interesting start continues.other labour MPs will oppose Cameron at pmq s and he has asked all other MPs for questions they want him to ask Cameron.refreshing


It will only be refreshing if Cameron actually answers a question
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It will only be refreshing if Cameron actually answers a question


Maybe.but if TV shows Cameron being evasive week after week and not answering perfectly reasonable questions then the dynamics change
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They ought to do a Paxman and continue asking the question until they get a decent answer!  
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So it's only the Tories and the Tory press that lie, what about Blair and Brown two of the biggest fuckingliars on the planet.
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So it's only the Tories and the Tory press that lie, what about Blair and Brown two of the biggest fuckingliars on the planet.



At least the Labour party has at last got rid of their supporters as leaders,  Blair was very lucky to be in power during the boom years and did many good things although financing them by pfi was a big mistake, and the results of his foreign policy we are still witnessing, Brown was unlucky his time came at the same time as the world crash, but heaven knows what Cameron would have done about it, yes he spent money to try and get the economy going again and bailed out the banks but but what other choice was there? I`m yet to hear a proper Tory answer.
It remains to be seen what next, certainly history will look very poorly on those that have resigned because they do not like a democratic result, they do not like their westminster elite being knocked out of even a little power. The line that austerity (except fot the rich) is the only answer is at last being challenged and as Jeremy says there is plenty of money in this country and no need for poverty and food banks
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