Duncan Ferguson leaves FGR

Jeez, he had only just signed a five-year contract with them in January.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66099981

thudding back to reality…..

Perhaps he refused to join in the stop the oil protests the owner helps finance😉

We are lacking a bruising No. 9 type...

Caught eating a burger ?

That didn't last long.

I’d been looking forward to the main stand banter with him  

Pretty bizarre choice of first real management job considering they were pretty much down when he took the job even though it was January. He’s going to find it hard to come back from this I’d guess.

He'd only just outlined his preseason plans in an interview the day before.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

He'd only just outlined his preseason plans in an interview the day before.

Obviously these plans didn’t impress the owner!!!

Dale Vince is much braver than I thought!

Quoted from 140381

I’d been looking forward to the main stand banter with him  

Braver than me. It’s one thing taunting Guyliner Evans as he’d never catch you. Big Dunc probably would…

I seem to recall that Stale Mince got a line tattooed on his neck each time FGR got promoted.

So what does he do to mark their relegation? Tattoo removal perhaps? Must be quite a dilemma.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

He'd only just outlined his preseason plans in an interview the day before.

Was he eating a Big Mac while outling his plans to the plant based twit?

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Braver than me. It’s one thing taunting Guyliner Evans as he’d never catch you. Big Dunc probably would…

Let me just clarify. I’d been looking forward to watching the main stand banter with him.

Just here to get a good seat for the comments when you all find out who has replaced him.

As a caretaker manager though

FGR 📉👩🏽‍💼🥕👩‍🌾 - I Think Mr Vince is a bit ‘out there’

Compulsory vegan diet
Wants to build an all wooden stadium
First female manager In mens leagues

It won’t be long before they’re back in Non league.

Again - no love lost there….

Fair play to Vince, he’s never shied away from putting both his hand in his pocket and his head above the parapet.

I know we’re meant to hate FGR etc but I still find myself hating clubs like Stevenage and Crawley more.

The Duncan Ferguson appointment raised eyebrows, espeidslly given that they were almost down already, logic said appoint for the future, much like we did with Hurst mkII but they’ve gotten rid and now appointed someone else that is once again a brave appointment.

Time will tell as to whether it’s a success…

She will feel at home when they play us then as our former primary funder pointed out on his BP ground tour ,he had things put in place for 'lady referees', maybe she can use that room.

Quoted from somersetmariner

FGR 📉👩🏽‍💼🥕👩‍🌾 - I Think Mr Vince is a bit ‘out there’

Compulsory vegan diet
Wants to build an all wooden stadium
First female manager In mens leagues

It won’t be long before they’re back in Non league.

Again - no love lost there….

Yeah, what a buffoon for trying to do things differently and create a better future. Find something more important to rail against.

Did our former leader nearly appoint a lady manager?

Or am i making that up , England manager or something i seem to remember.

Quoted from Mappers

Did our former leader nearly appoint a lady manager?

Or am i making that up , England manager or something i seem to remember.

There was something in the media about Hope Powell i seem to remember.

From a Sky Sports article.

Hope Powell on being linked with Grimsby Town in 2009
"It was news to me. For the record, I had no conversation with Grimsby.

"I remember it distinctly. I’d just got out of the shower and had BBC News on saying, ‘Hope has been linked to Grimsby’ and it just made me laugh.

"I think it said I’d been seen in Grimsby with the owner or the chairman and I was talking to the telly saying ‘no I haven’t because I’ve been in this hotel preparing for a game’.

"No disrespect to Grimsby, but I was working with the best players in the country with the national team, doing OK. Why would I want to go to Grimsby?"

"No disrespect to Grimsby, but (some disrespect to Grimsby)"

She missed a real treat by missing out on working with our former non-chairman.

Good luck to the new coach at FGR (though obviously not when they play us). I suspect she'll be facing a lot of 'banter' in her new role.

Fenty Fenty where's the sink

Good luck to her. I don't really think people are that bothered about the sex of coaches these days.

Still want Vegan United to dissappear out of the league, but that's because I'm not a fan of fanless rich boys toy clubs.

What I don't get is Green Dale is 'making this appointment on merit' but is only willing to make her a caretaker boss 'on merit' yet Ferguson got a 5 year deal with presumably the same merit as he also had never been a head coach before..... Bit hypocritical from him.

Still, good luck to her, UEFA pro licence and worked her way up the ranks  properly not been handed a job on a plate because shes famous like Gerrard, Lampard etc.  

Quoted from Mappers

Did our former leader nearly appoint a lady manager?

Or am i making that up , England manager or something i seem to remember.

There was a rumour that Fenty had met with her but he quickly dismissed it as his "good lady wouldn't be very happy if I'd had the meeting", because of course no woman could possibly have a business meeting with honest John without sleeping with him.

Quoted from gtfc98

There was a rumour that Fenty had met with her but he quickly dismissed it as his "good lady wouldn't be very happy if I'd had the meeting", because of course no woman could possibly have a business meeting with honest John without sleeping with him.

Yikes. Just when I thought I had blotted him out of my memory all these reminders bring him back into my head.

Oh well, back to the hypnotherapist for more therapy.

Fair play to FGR and well done Hannah - will inevitably attract the usual sad nonsense from some quarters and she will have known that when accepting. It's a shame it has to be but it will have been a consideration to her I am sure.

The standard of some of the coaches and managers you see consistently getting jobs is crazy, John Yems for example! I am sure there are many women much better than some of the people currently on the touchline as managers or first team coaches.

We and many other teams have appointed our physio caretaker for a long period of time. Now I love Dave Moore but I would hazard a guess Hannah Dingley has more qualifications and relevant coaching experience than Dave.

I think this is great news, good luck to her. I hope she does well.

Except when FGR play us where I hope she and they have a nightmare.

I think there will be a steady flow of female coaches into men's football over the next few years and there's no reason why they can't be highly successful.
Coaching badges are pretty straight forward so the key thing is can they motivate 20 prima donnas? Interesting point above regarding her being a caretaker and not a full appointee so DV can't be totally convinced
Saw an U9 five a side recently and one side had two girls who were as good as any boys I've seen in 20 years of junior football. Made me wonder if one day professional teams might be mixed

I wonder when we will see the first female player in a mens pro team ?

Everyone seems pro equality these days so you might just as well mix and match at some point surely?

If a woman is qualified to coach and is good at it then crack on. But there will never be women in the men’s game as players, there is too much difference physically.

I think that a club appointing a female manager draws any sort of reaction probably sums up where football fares amongst modern society in 2023.

If she's good enough, her gender doesn't matter.  

Quoted from diehardmariner

I think that a club appointing a female manager draws any sort of reaction probably sums up where football fares amongst modern society in 2023.

If she's good enough, her gender doesn't matter.  

Exactly this. Its the daughters of all of these dinosaurs who are losing their shït over this appointment who I feel sorry for. Imagine having a father who will openly tell you that you can't possibly  do the job you want to do because you were born with a vągina. Absolutely bizarre behaviour.

Quoted from Mappers

I wonder when we will see the first female player in a mens pro team ?

Everyone seems pro equality these days so you might just as well mix and match at some point surely?

You can't have female players in the men's game then men can play in the woman's game. Then what is the point of having a woman game because it will just be dominated by men.

Quoted from kia82kaha

You can't have female players in the men's game then men can play in the woman's game. Then what is the point of having a woman game because it will just be dominated by men.

Be interesting to see what would happen if a trans woman tried to play in the womens game. Most sports now seem to be accepting that going through puberty as a male gives an unfair advantage over biological women due to muscle mass and testosterone and so are banning them from competing. Which I think is fair.

Quoted from RonMariner

Be interesting to see what would happen if a trans woman tried to play in the womens game. Most sports now seem to be accepting that going through puberty as a male gives an unfair advantage over biological women due to muscle mass and testosterone and so are banning them from competing. Which I think is fair.

There is a trans team that plays friendlies with women's teams I don't keep up with their results but I don't think they've lost yet.

Quoted from kia82kaha

There is a trans team that plays friendlies with women's teams I don't keep up with their results but I don't think they've lost yet.

Which kinda proves the point I guess.

Quoted from gtfc98

Exactly this. Its the daughters of all of these dinosaurs who are losing their shït over this appointment who I feel sorry for. Imagine having a father who will openly tell you that you can't possibly  do the job you want to do because you were born with a vągina. Absolutely bizarre behaviour.

Judging by your post you are one of those dinosaurs that believe to be female you have to have been born with a girl private.
Thankfully we have  moved on from all that nonsense.  

Whatever the result of this appointment good or bad it has a nothing to do with gender.  

UTM

Quoted from Civvy at last

Judging by your post you are one of those dinosaurs that believe to be female you have to have been born with a girl private.
Thankfully we have  moved on from all that nonsense.  

Whatever the result of this appointment good or bad it has a nothing to do with gender.  

UTM

Just asking but do you think it is ok to allow born males in female sports

Quoted from Civvy at last

Judging by your post you are one of those dinosaurs that believe to be female you have to have been born with a girl private.
Thankfully we have  moved on from all that nonsense.  

Whatever the result of this appointment good or bad it has a nothing to do with gender.  

UTM

Bizarre take.

Quoted from gtfc98

Bizarre take.

Not all.  You spoke of fathers explaining to daughters because they were born with a girl private.  Nowadays there are plenty of fathers who have daughters that weren’t born with a girl private.
Do you think they should be excluded ?
Because I don’t !!

Quoted from Civvy at last

Not all.  You spoke of fathers explaining to daughters because they were born with a girl private.  Nowadays there are plenty of fathers who have daughters that weren’t born with a girl private.
Do you think they should be excluded ?
Because I don’t !!

I’m with you on this to be honest, and as has been mentioned, rather than the usual suspects getting jobs because they’re in the know so to speak, FGR have put their head above the parapet and given someone with equally as much experience and qualifications.

Too many dinosaurs knocking about.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Not all.  You spoke of fathers explaining to daughters because they were born with a girl private.  Nowadays there are plenty of fathers who have daughters that weren’t born with a girl private.
Do you think they should be excluded ?
Because I don’t !!

Yeah you sound about as woke as Enoch Powell mate.

Quoted from gtfc98

Yeah you sound about as woke as Enoch Powell mate.

Woke is the classic go to when a bigot gets exposed.  Call me what you like.  I just want equality for all.  If that upsets you, then you’re the one with the problem.  

I think this is quite a good story. I do think it’s a publicity stunt - I always suspect that when a story is about either FGR or MK Dons - but let’s see how it goes.

The problem with women playing traditional men’s sports hasn’t actually happened yet. When a woman gets sacked in football for not getting results, or, god forbid, a female boxer ends up in hospital with horrific injuries, it’ll hit society really hard.

We’ve already seen the women’s game moving in a slightly different direction - the lionesses changing from white shorts to blue in case of periods, and now the players have said that boots (designed for men) are causing loads of injuries.

I am no fan of women’s football, but I am really interested to see how things go at FGR. Personally I suspect that club is on a downward spiral and it might not be the best fit.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Woke is the classic go to when a bigot gets exposed.  Call me what you like.  I just want equality for all.  If that upsets you, then you’re the one with the problem.  

Quite tickled that the sarcasm went straight over your head.

Dingley's first game in charge was tonight in a friendly at Melksham Town and resulted in a 1-1 draw.

Quoted from gtfc98

Yeah you sound about as woke as Enoch Powell mate.

What has woke got to do with it. I don’t always agree with Civvy but he’s merely making the point that plenty of people have children who have transitioned, equally, we shouldn’t women strive for the same roles as men?

Not sure what the dig at civvy is about…

Either way, I hope it paves the way.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Fair play to FGR and well done Hannah - will inevitably attract the usual sad nonsense from some quarters and she will have known that when accepting. It's a shame it has to be but it will have been a consideration to her I am sure.

The standard of some of the coaches and managers you see consistently getting jobs is crazy, John Yems for example! I am sure there are many women much better than some of the people currently on the touchline as managers or first team coaches.

We and many other teams have appointed our physio caretaker for a long period of time. Now I love Dave Moore but I would hazard a guess Hannah Dingley has more qualifications and relevant coaching experience than Dave.

I agree in general but in Dave Moore’s case he has actually been manager at Scunthorpe for 2 years before he became physio at Town

Quoted from aldi_01

What has woke got to do with it. I don’t always agree with Civvy but he’s merely making the point that plenty of people have children who have transitioned, equally, we shouldn’t women strive for the same roles as men?

Not sure what the dig at civvy is about…

Either way, I hope it paves the way.

If you think he was genuinely making that point with even an ounce of sincerity you're mistaken.

Ewwww...just watched the post friendly press conference, I honestly don't think a man could be more abhorrent man than Stale Mince, kept interrupting the manager and making it about him, strange man, very strange man.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Ewwww...just watched the post friendly press conference, I honestly don't think a man could be more abhorrent man than Stale Mince, kept interrupting the manager and making it about him, strange man, very strange man.

Take it your not vegan then

Do you need to be a vegan to like somebody else who is a vegan? Vince comes across as a male private, regardless of what he decides he wants to eat.

Quoted from Maringer

Do you need to be a vegan to like somebody else who is a vegan? Vince comes across as a male private, regardless of what he decides he wants to eat.

Fair point

For the record i do find people who don't like/eat meat strange though, they are missing out .

Especially with the alternative vegan fair on offer , i have tried a few bits it just tastes nasty/weird .

Quoted from Mappers

Fair point

For the record i do find people who don't like/eat meat strange though, they are missing out .

Especially with the alternative vegan fair on offer , i have tried a few bits it just tastes nasty/weird .

Strange that a man can impose his "philosophy" on others as long as its Vegan, but if, say BP banned all Vegan/Veg as a "philosophy" questions would be asked in Parliament. "Funny old world" as someone said before me.

And that's part of the problem .

Their view of things is 'my way or no way ' and a lot of people are like that now . I don't actually mind Vince , just like I don't mind female managers , referees(a couple at BP this season were actually better than a lot of the male one's ) or players .

But when he's launching it down your throat that you are wrong to oppose his views , and goes about disrupting other people's  days ,that's when I think he needs to be called out - for some of the people at these sporting events it's probably a once in a lifetime experience and he's orchestrating substantial distruption to their days .

He seems to find it all amusing to , with a little sarky grin on his face when asked about his various little disruption projects , like he's almost doing it for attention/a kick rather than the actual causes he say's he so strongly believes in .

What right has he got to do that ?
What right have we to mock his views ?

By all means live your life how you want to live it , but don't ram it down the throats of those who oppose or could not care less .

Quoted from Mappers

And that's part of the problem .

Their view of things is 'my way or no way ' and a lot of people are like that now . I don't actually mind Vince , just like I don't mind female managers , referees(a couple at BP this season were actually better than a lot of the male one's ) or players .

But when he's launching it down your throat that you are wrong to oppose his views , and goes about disrupting other people's  days ,that's when I think he needs to be called out - for some of the people at these sporting events it's probably a once in a lifetime experience and he's orchestrating substantial distruption to their days .

He seems to find it all amusing to , with a little sarky grin on his face when asked about his various little disruption projects , like he's almost doing it for attention/a kick rather than the actual causes he say's he so strongly believes in .

What right has he got to do that ?
What right have we to mock his views ?

By all means live your life how you want to live it , but don't ram it down the throats of those who oppose or could not care less .

How do you know who's a Vegan in a crowded room?
Because they'll tell you.

Quoted from Mappers

And that's part of the problem .

Their view of things is 'my way or no way ' and a lot of people are like that now . I don't actually mind Vince , just like I don't mind female managers , referees(a couple at BP this season were actually better than a lot of the male one's ) or players .

But when he's launching it down your throat that you are wrong to oppose his views , and goes about disrupting other people's  days ,that's when I think he needs to be called out - for some of the people at these sporting events it's probably a once in a lifetime experience and he's orchestrating substantial distruption to their days .

He seems to find it all amusing to , with a little sarky grin on his face when asked about his various little disruption projects , like he's almost doing it for attention/a kick rather than the actual causes he say's he so strongly believes in .

What right has he got to do that ?
What right have we to mock his views ?

By all means live your life how you want to live it , but don't ram it down the throats of those who oppose or could not care less .

Don't ram your views down other people's throats writes man ramming his views down other people's throats. Apparently without seeing the irony.

I've a somewhat longstanding belief that league clubs should be sacrosanct to large towns and cities where those clubs have been an historic part of the community fabric, particularly in areas with a significant working class heritage. I don't believe the village of Nailsworth, the small town of Fleetwood or the metropolitan borough of Salford need their football clubs in the same way that the likes of Grimsby, or Scunthorpe, or Oldham et al do. You can point to Milton Keynes as having a large population, but it's club's pitiful population / attendance ratio tells you everything you need to know about the dismal failure of that particular experiment.

I don't like the notion of clubs being carried to inflated places in the football pyramid by wealthy benefactors, that they would otherwise have no chance of having reached. Yes, league standings are determined on the basis of footballing merit on the pitch, but that doesn't alter the fact that it flies in the face of football's historic origins. In Forest Green, we have a club currently based in an isolated village of less than 6,000, run not only by a wealthy benefactor but by someone who is using the club as a pawn in his own commercial endeavours - the imposition of a vegan diet on the club's players and visitors to the stadium, the carbon-neutral ground, the organic pitch, and the switching of the club's traditional colours (from black, white and red no less). Sports and politics don't mix.

And yet I can't bring myself to feel the disdain towards Forest Green that I do towards Crawley, or Fleetwood, or Salford. My feelings towards Milton Keynes are much stronger than disdain.

Whatever you make of Dale Vince, he isn't selling fossil fuels. He isn't a gambling magnate. He didn't set up a utilities company designed to scam small businesses. Ultimately, the things that he and Forest Green Rovers stand for are forces for good; and vital ones at that. Tuesday was the hottest day ever recorded on planet earth. Carbon emissions and the compound effects of meat consumption pose an existential threat if not to us, then our children or our grandchildren. The threat is very real.

The green technology we have today is not perfect, and some of it still has its own residual environmental impact. Tofu alone is not going to save the planet. But the ideas Dale Vince is trying to impress upon society are significant steps in the right direction. I say that not as a preacher, but as a hypocrite. I eat meat most days and drive a diesel powered Chelsea tractor - I, like most people, need to change. Attitudes need to change. The fact that we're even debating this on a football messageboard tells you that it's at least effective at starting a conversation.

To that end, is the appointment of Hannah Dingley as interim first-team manager at Forest Green a mere PR stunt? Possibly. Regardless, it's a move brave enough to challenge a taboo about women in football. Whilst there is there ample evidence highlighting the differences between the athletic capabilities of males and females, the world we live in today rightly accepts that no such intellectual gaps exist.

In that case, what are the barriers to women taking top coaching jobs in football? That they did not evolve through the world of elite football as players? Neither did Arsene Wenger, Sven Goran Eriksson, Jose Mourinho, Jurgen Klopp or, erm...Russell Slade. It should not be a terminal issue for women, nor do I think it will be in the future.

For me, regardless of what comes of this appointment, it helps pave the way for other clubs to follow suit in the future by getting much of the media hype out of the way. Some will oppose the idea of women in the dressing room, and they are entitled to that view. However, I think that view will age no better than the idea that racism in football was ok in the 70s and 80s.

Dale Vince and Forest Green do things differently. They have created a unique space for themselves in football and the media, as Wrexham have, however with a far more seismic and meaningful underlying message. Some will inevitably hate them for it. I can't.

Didn't know whether to post here or ex-gtfc players thread but Lee Ashcroft got a 10 match ban for severely verbally abusing Hannah Dingley back in 2013...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/22707465

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

Don't ram your views down other people's throats writes man ramming his views down other people's throats. Apparently without seeing the irony.

There is more I could add , but we are on a football thread after all and it is going towards the other page where 'Tory Vermin ' is ,so will leave it .
Not sure i was ramming my views down throats though , but I respect your opinion .

For Poojah, not copying his write up to save "ink"

A well-written piece, which misses the point.
Some on this forum hate the fact that a woman has been given the opportunity, some applaud it as the best thing ever. Most I suppose look upon it with interest, and see how it pans out in the new season.
None on this forum know how good she is. Her certificates have been mentioned, and positions she has taken, but that means nothing in the end and what will matter is how she manages the marathon 46+ matches will throw at her.
I wish Ms Dingley the best, whilst hoping that GTFC thrash FGR whenever they meet. However she has two problems to overcome, one is the dressing room, and the other is the fans.
In the dressing room, she will meet some knuckle-draggers who will question her knowledge/expertise not only its what they do to all managers, but more so because she's a woman, and that will be inevitable.
Secondly, all fans look at the first (say 10) matches and the FGR forums will be either happy or baying for (sorry FGR) blood. Will she get a fair shake? I doubt it, but it will be hard to prove. Like I say, we will all be looking at FGR this year with interest, perhaps Mr Vince idea in the first place.
As to Dale Vinces Meatless Stadium, you seem ok by that, I find it 1984.

I don't object to people who sell fossil fuels nor to gambling magnates. I loathe Dale Vince and everything he stands for. He is a dangerous man who if he gets his way will bring misery to millions.

As for the change of manager/head coach I can't see it weakening FGR. I rated their chances of promotion in the coming season as very low under Big Dunc but have no idea how the new appointment will do.

Quoted from GrimPol

For Poojah, not copying his write up to save "ink"

A well-written piece, which misses the point.
Some on this forum hate the fact that a woman has been given the opportunity, some applaud it as the best thing ever. Most I suppose look upon it with interest, and see how it pans out in the new season.
None on this forum know how good she is. Her certificates have been mentioned, and positions she has taken, but that means nothing in the end and what will matter is how she manages the marathon 46+ matches will throw at her.
I wish Ms Dingley the best, whilst hoping that GTFC thrash FGR whenever they meet. However she has two problems to overcome, one is the dressing room, and the other is the fans.
In the dressing room, she will meet some knuckle-draggers who will question her knowledge/expertise not only its what they do to all managers, but more so because she's a woman, and that will be inevitable.
Secondly, all fans look at the first (say 10) matches and the FGR forums will be either happy or baying for (sorry FGR) blood. Will she get a fair shake? I doubt it, but it will be hard to prove. Like I say, we will all be looking at FGR this year with interest, perhaps Mr Vince idea in the first place.
As to Dale Vinces Meatless Stadium, you seem ok by that, I find it 1984.

I don't think she'll have to do a great deal to win over the dressing room other than simply know what she's talking about and be good at getting her message across. Competence is the driving force in most workplaces and people align themselves to and trust those who are competent. In an industry where everything is driven by achievement, I don't think she'd have got to where she has without being good at what she does.

That isn't to say football doesn't have coaches who aren't particularly gifted or arrive in big positions on the back of little evidence to support their merit, but given it's likely she will have had to fight harder than the man stood next to her to progress her career purely because that has been the nature of the game for 100+ years I'd say she must be good.

That also isn't any veiled suggestion of sexism in football, more the reality that the game has been segregated in terms of gender for so long that the industry is dominated by men for obvious reasons. I think over the next few decades we will see more females entering the coaching domain but I think it's highly likely that when they do it will be because they have proven themselves competent and worthy of high level positions.

I know they don't get many fans but why do the fanbase accept vegan only food when a tiny percentage of the population are vegans?

In fact why do they put up with his crazy ideas at all, which if implemented would cause misery? The quicker they get back to non league the better.

Quoted from ROKERITE

I don't object to people who sell fossil fuels nor to gambling magnates. I loathe Dale Vince and everything he stands for. He is a dangerous man who if he gets his way will bring misery to millions.

As for the change of manager/head coach I can't see it weakening FGR. I rated their chances of promotion in the coming season as very low under Big Dunc but have no idea how the new appointment will do.

I mean, that first paragraph is weird.
Why do you loath him? That’s a very strong word. What is it that he stands for that will ‘bring misery to millions?’

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I know they don't get many fans but why do the fanbase accept vegan only food when a tiny percentage of the population are vegans?

In fact why do they put up with his crazy ideas at all, which if implemented would cause misery? The quicker they get back to non league the better.

Again, why such a strong emotional response? What is it that he stands for that upsets you so much? If I was an FGR fan, I’d just eat before I went in the stadium.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I know they don't get many fans but why do the fanbase accept vegan only food when a tiny percentage of the population are vegans?

In fact why do they put up with his crazy ideas at all, which if implemented would cause misery? The quicker they get back to non league the better.

Probably because it's only two hours every other Saturday and it's quite easy to go without the food if you don't fancy it?

I knew this thread wouldn’t disappoint. The way some of you go on it’s like you need a joint of beef for every meal.

Quoted from mariner91

Probably because it's only two hours every other Saturday and it's quite easy to go without the food if you don't fancy it?

But shouldn't it be about choice? I don't always eat at matches and if I manage to get down to FGR this season then I'll not buy the food they offer, simple, as you said.

I think someone brought it up earlier though, if BP stopped selling a vegan option then there'd be outrage from our vegan support for not catering to their needs and I'd agree with that argument. It must surely work both ways though? In an age where we have more choice and people are free to eat how they want, be who they want (to an extent), the provision must be universal.

I don't understand how it's ok not to cater to a majority but there's a huge issue when we don't cater for the minority. No football ground can cater for every possible dietary need out there so there has to be some understanding and limitations to what a football club can/can't provide, but vegetarian, vegan and 'normal'(?) are within capability and for me should be available to all. I don't think I'll ever see how you can take two options away and it's discrimination (or word that befits the situation), yet take the third away and there's no issue with it.

Last time I went to FGR I had a great chip butty and a black coffee. JJ Hooper then scored a hat-trick. As an omnivore it was a nice day out.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

But shouldn't it be about choice? I don't always eat at matches and if I manage to get down to FGR this season then I'll not buy the food they offer, simple, as you said.

I think someone brought it up earlier though, if BP stopped selling a vegan option then there'd be outrage from our vegan support for not catering to their needs and I'd agree with that argument. It must surely work both ways though? In an age where we have more choice and people are free to eat how they want, be who they want (to an extent), the provision must be universal.

I don't understand how it's ok not to cater to a majority but there's a huge issue when we don't cater for the minority. No football ground can cater for every possible dietary need out there so there has to be some understanding and limitations to what a football club can/can't provide, but vegetarian, vegan and 'normal'(?) are within capability and for me should be available to all. I don't think I'll ever see how you can take two options away and it's discrimination (or word that befits the situation), yet take the third away and there's no issue with it.

It is catering for the majority though. I eat and enjoy eating meat and fish and dairy products. But equally I can and do eat meals and snacks that are plant based. No human is solely carnivorous or at least shouldn't be so they are offering something for literally everyone. It is still about choice. You can choose to eat there or you can choose not to. I wouldn't do it if I owned a football club but that's up to them.

Quoted from ROKERITE

I don't object to people who sell fossil fuels nor to gambling magnates. I loathe Dale Vince and everything he stands for. He is a dangerous man who if he gets his way will bring misery to millions.

As for the change of manager/head coach I can't see it weakening FGR. I rated their chances of promotion in the coming season as very low under Big Dunc but have no idea how the new appointment will do.

I bet you think Nigel Farage has general public's best interests at heart don't you?

Dale Vince is "dangerous", give your head a wobble mate.

I suspect the Brexit gammon lot are beside themselves again.

It's his club, he can sell what he wants in it. At least he's backing up his beliefs/lifestyle rather than trying to profit from something he opposes like a hypocrite.

Get some chips, or don't get anything and eat before if you're so against eating something that doesn't contain meat, egg or dairy.

Daily Mail headline…..”FURY as vegan sausage rolls cause misery for million”.

FFS

Some of you have short memories.
If you don't eat your greens you're not getting any pudding

Some strange views in this thread.

Wish someone could point out why Dale Vince is a threat to western democracy, because he doesn't eat sausages.

Quoted from ginnywings

Some strange views in this thread.

Wish someone could point out why Dale Vince is a threat to western democracy, because he doesn't eat sausages.

Because he is bankrolling, or helping to bankroll Just stop oil, whose aims are quite ludicrous. "Just stop oil" literally means lives as we know it would cease to function, and at the same time, their activists are disrupting people going about their everyday lives.

Edit. Ive just noticed he is on Question Time tonight so we can watch him make his case. Mind you, if he had his way and just stopped oil there would be no television to watch of course.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

I don't think she'll have to do a great deal to win over the dressing room other than simply know what she's talking about and be good at getting her message across. Competence is the driving force in most workplaces and people align themselves to and trust those who are competent. In an industry where everything is driven by achievement, I don't think she'd have got to where she has without being good at what she does.

That isn't to say football doesn't have coaches who aren't particularly gifted or arrive in big positions on the back of little evidence to support their merit, but given it's likely she will have had to fight harder than the man stood next to her to progress her career purely because that has been the nature of the game for 100+ years I'd say she must be good.

That also isn't any veiled suggestion of sexism in football, more the reality that the game has been segregated in terms of gender for so long that the industry is dominated by men for obvious reasons. I think over the next few decades we will see more females entering the coaching domain but I think it's highly likely that when they do it will be because they have proven themselves competent and worthy of high level positions.

Up to now I can only see (on the FGR Fans and Official site) that Ms Dingley is an interim manager, is there an update?
. Mourinho, Gullit, Villas-Boas, and of course, Clough had their share of losing the dressing room, and they were seasoned operators. If FGR are in the bottom half after 10 games the fans will get restless, and of course, she will get the dreaded  "Backing of the Board" This is an interesting issue, and I wish her luck.
But all this could be just polemic if FGR appoint another manager and Ms Dingley drops back being in charge of the Academy again.

Quoted from ginnywings

Some strange views in this thread.

Wish someone could point out why Dale Vince is a threat to western democracy, because he doesn't eat sausages.

He does eat sausages, just without the meat.

Quoted from chaos33

Again, why such a strong emotional response? What is it that he stands for that upsets you so much? If I was an FGR fan, I’d just eat before I went in the stadium.

Would you back GTFC in banning Veg/Vegan fair, and only selling meat products?

Quoted from ginnywings

Some strange views in this thread.

Wish someone could point out why Dale Vince is a threat to western democracy, because he doesn't eat sausages.

Because he is Bankrolling JSO whilst being bankrolled himself by hard working Bill Payers paying the green energy tariff, he has also bunged the Labour Party a substantial sum of money recently.

Quoted from chaos33

I suspect the Brexit gammon lot are beside themselves again.

Oh get you, of course Gammon can be seen as a Racist slur.
And fyi it wasnt only white people who voted Brexit and not was Brexit in any way Racist, it was a vote against a Political Union we never asked for and during the Referendum leave won fairly and squarely, its called Democracy, suck it up!
Oh and an apology for the Gammon Slur wouldnt go amiss either.

Quoted from Azimuth

Oh get you, of course Gammon can be seen as a Racist slur.
And fyi it wasnt only white people who voted Brexit and not was Brexit in any way Racist, it was a vote against a Political Union we never asked for and during the Referendum leave won fairly and squarely, its called Democracy, suck it up!
Oh and an apology for the Gammon Slur wouldnt go amiss either.

If you think gammon is a slur, you are an absolute pillock.

Quoted from Azimuth

Because he is Bankrolling JSO whilst being bankrolled himself by hard working Bill Payers paying the green energy tariff, he has also bunged the Labour Party a substantial sum of money recently.

Isn’t Mr Vince anti-green energy tariff?

He’s pro windfall tax on the energy companies.

Getyerfaxrite

Quoted from Azimuth

Oh get you, of course Gammon can be seen as a Racist slur.
And fyi it wasnt only white people who voted Brexit and not was Brexit in any way Racist, it was a vote against a Political Union we never asked for and during the Referendum leave won fairly and squarely, its called Democracy, suck it up!
Oh and an apology for the Gammon Slur wouldnt go amiss either.

Gammon is a racist slur hahaha.

Quoted from GrimPol

Would you back GTFC in banning Veg/Vegan fair, and only selling meat products?

Fair? Just do a check on that.

As for your question…..what’s it got to do with anything? Would I back GTFC ‘banning’ vegan food? Why would they ban it? How ridiculous and unnecessary and irrelevant. Do we sell vegan food? I don’t know, and I don’t care. It’s got nothing to do with what we’re talking about.