Jeez, he had only just signed a five-year contract with them in January.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66099981

thudding back to reality…..

Perhaps he refused to join in the stop the oil protests the owner helps finance😉

We are lacking a bruising No. 9 type...

Caught eating a burger ?

That didn't last long.

I’d been looking forward to the main stand banter with him  8) 8)

Pretty bizarre choice of first real management job considering they were pretty much down when he took the job even though it was January. He’s going to find it hard to come back from this I’d guess.

He'd only just outlined his preseason plans in an interview the day before.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

He'd only just outlined his preseason plans in an interview the day before.

Obviously these plans didn’t impress the owner!!!

Dale Vince is much braver than I thought!

Quoted from 140381

I’d been looking forward to the main stand banter with him  8) 8)

Braver than me. It’s one thing taunting Guyliner Evans as he’d never catch you. Big Dunc probably would…

I seem to recall that Stale Mince got a line tattooed on his neck each time FGR got promoted.

So what does he do to mark their relegation? Tattoo removal perhaps? Must be quite a dilemma.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

He'd only just outlined his preseason plans in an interview the day before.

Was he eating a Big Mac while outling his plans to the plant based twit?

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Braver than me. It’s one thing taunting Guyliner Evans as he’d never catch you. Big Dunc probably would…

Let me just clarify. I’d been looking forward to watching the main stand banter with him.

Just here to get a good seat for the comments when you all find out who has replaced him.

As a caretaker manager though

FGR 📉👩🏽‍💼🥕👩‍🌾 - I Think Mr Vince is a bit ‘out there’

Compulsory vegan diet
Wants to build an all wooden stadium
First female manager In mens leagues

It won’t be long before they’re back in Non league.

Again - no love lost there….

Fair play to Vince, he’s never shied away from putting both his hand in his pocket and his head above the parapet.

I know we’re meant to hate FGR etc but I still find myself hating clubs like Stevenage and Crawley more.

The Duncan Ferguson appointment raised eyebrows, espeidslly given that they were almost down already, logic said appoint for the future, much like we did with Hurst mkII but they’ve gotten rid and now appointed someone else that is once again a brave appointment.

Time will tell as to whether it’s a success…

She will feel at home when they play us then as our former primary funder pointed out on his BP ground tour ,he had things put in place for 'lady referees', maybe she can use that room.

Quoted from somersetmariner

FGR 📉👩🏽‍💼🥕👩‍🌾 - I Think Mr Vince is a bit ‘out there’

Compulsory vegan diet
Wants to build an all wooden stadium
First female manager In mens leagues

It won’t be long before they’re back in Non league.

Again - no love lost there….

Yeah, what a buffoon for trying to do things differently and create a better future. Find something more important to rail against.

Did our former leader nearly appoint a lady manager?

Or am i making that up , England manager or something i seem to remember.

Quoted from Mappers

Did our former leader nearly appoint a lady manager?

Or am i making that up , England manager or something i seem to remember.

There was something in the media about Hope Powell i seem to remember.

From a Sky Sports article.

Hope Powell on being linked with Grimsby Town in 2009
"It was news to me. For the record, I had no conversation with Grimsby.

"I remember it distinctly. I’d just got out of the shower and had BBC News on saying, ‘Hope has been linked to Grimsby’ and it just made me laugh.

"I think it said I’d been seen in Grimsby with the owner or the chairman and I was talking to the telly saying ‘no I haven’t because I’ve been in this hotel preparing for a game’.

"No disrespect to Grimsby, but I was working with the best players in the country with the national team, doing OK. Why would I want to go to Grimsby?"

"No disrespect to Grimsby, but (some disrespect to Grimsby)"

She missed a real treat by missing out on working with our former non-chairman.

Good luck to the new coach at FGR (though obviously not when they play us). I suspect she'll be facing a lot of 'banter' in her new role.

Fenty Fenty where's the sink :o

Good luck to her. I don't really think people are that bothered about the sex of coaches these days.

Still want Vegan United to dissappear out of the league, but that's because I'm not a fan of fanless rich boys toy clubs.

What I don't get is Green Dale is 'making this appointment on merit' but is only willing to make her a caretaker boss 'on merit' yet Ferguson got a 5 year deal with presumably the same merit as he also had never been a head coach before..... Bit hypocritical from him.

Still, good luck to her, UEFA pro licence and worked her way up the ranks  properly not been handed a job on a plate because shes famous like Gerrard, Lampard etc.  

Quoted from Mappers

Did our former leader nearly appoint a lady manager?

Or am i making that up , England manager or something i seem to remember.

There was a rumour that Fenty had met with her but he quickly dismissed it as his "good lady wouldn't be very happy if I'd had the meeting", because of course no woman could possibly have a business meeting with honest John without sleeping with him.

Quoted from gtfc98

There was a rumour that Fenty had met with her but he quickly dismissed it as his "good lady wouldn't be very happy if I'd had the meeting", because of course no woman could possibly have a business meeting with honest John without sleeping with him.

Yikes. Just when I thought I had blotted him out of my memory all these reminders bring him back into my head.

Oh well, back to the hypnotherapist for more therapy.

Fair play to FGR and well done Hannah - will inevitably attract the usual sad nonsense from some quarters and she will have known that when accepting. It's a shame it has to be but it will have been a consideration to her I am sure.

The standard of some of the coaches and managers you see consistently getting jobs is crazy, John Yems for example! I am sure there are many women much better than some of the people currently on the touchline as managers or first team coaches.

We and many other teams have appointed our physio caretaker for a long period of time. Now I love Dave Moore but I would hazard a guess Hannah Dingley has more qualifications and relevant coaching experience than Dave.

I think this is great news, good luck to her. I hope she does well.

Except when FGR play us where I hope she and they have a nightmare.

I think there will be a steady flow of female coaches into men's football over the next few years and there's no reason why they can't be highly successful.
Coaching badges are pretty straight forward so the key thing is can they motivate 20 prima donnas? Interesting point above regarding her being a caretaker and not a full appointee so DV can't be totally convinced
Saw an U9 five a side recently and one side had two girls who were as good as any boys I've seen in 20 years of junior football. Made me wonder if one day professional teams might be mixed

I wonder when we will see the first female player in a mens pro team ?

Everyone seems pro equality these days so you might just as well mix and match at some point surely?

If a woman is qualified to coach and is good at it then crack on. But there will never be women in the men’s game as players, there is too much difference physically.

I think that a club appointing a female manager draws any sort of reaction probably sums up where football fares amongst modern society in 2023.

If she's good enough, her gender doesn't matter.  

Quoted from diehardmariner

I think that a club appointing a female manager draws any sort of reaction probably sums up where football fares amongst modern society in 2023.

If she's good enough, her gender doesn't matter.  

Exactly this. Its the daughters of all of these dinosaurs who are losing their shït over this appointment who I feel sorry for. Imagine having a father who will openly tell you that you can't possibly  do the job you want to do because you were born with a vągina. Absolutely bizarre behaviour.

Quoted from Mappers

I wonder when we will see the first female player in a mens pro team ?

Everyone seems pro equality these days so you might just as well mix and match at some point surely?

You can't have female players in the men's game then men can play in the woman's game. Then what is the point of having a woman game because it will just be dominated by men.

Quoted from kia82kaha

You can't have female players in the men's game then men can play in the woman's game. Then what is the point of having a woman game because it will just be dominated by men.

Be interesting to see what would happen if a trans woman tried to play in the womens game. Most sports now seem to be accepting that going through puberty as a male gives an unfair advantage over biological women due to muscle mass and testosterone and so are banning them from competing. Which I think is fair.

Quoted from RonMariner

Be interesting to see what would happen if a trans woman tried to play in the womens game. Most sports now seem to be accepting that going through puberty as a male gives an unfair advantage over biological women due to muscle mass and testosterone and so are banning them from competing. Which I think is fair.

There is a trans team that plays friendlies with women's teams I don't keep up with their results but I don't think they've lost yet.

Quoted from kia82kaha

There is a trans team that plays friendlies with women's teams I don't keep up with their results but I don't think they've lost yet.

Which kinda proves the point I guess.

Quoted from gtfc98

Exactly this. Its the daughters of all of these dinosaurs who are losing their shït over this appointment who I feel sorry for. Imagine having a father who will openly tell you that you can't possibly  do the job you want to do because you were born with a vągina. Absolutely bizarre behaviour.

Judging by your post you are one of those dinosaurs that believe to be female you have to have been born with a girl private.
Thankfully we have  moved on from all that nonsense.  

Whatever the result of this appointment good or bad it has a nothing to do with gender.  

UTM

Quoted from Civvy at last

Judging by your post you are one of those dinosaurs that believe to be female you have to have been born with a girl private.
Thankfully we have  moved on from all that nonsense.  

Whatever the result of this appointment good or bad it has a nothing to do with gender.  

UTM

Just asking but do you think it is ok to allow born males in female sports

Quoted from Civvy at last

Judging by your post you are one of those dinosaurs that believe to be female you have to have been born with a girl private.
Thankfully we have  moved on from all that nonsense.  

Whatever the result of this appointment good or bad it has a nothing to do with gender.  

UTM

Bizarre take.

Quoted from gtfc98

Bizarre take.

Not all.  You spoke of fathers explaining to daughters because they were born with a girl private.  Nowadays there are plenty of fathers who have daughters that weren’t born with a girl private.
Do you think they should be excluded ?
Because I don’t !!

Quoted from Civvy at last

Not all.  You spoke of fathers explaining to daughters because they were born with a girl private.  Nowadays there are plenty of fathers who have daughters that weren’t born with a girl private.
Do you think they should be excluded ?
Because I don’t !!

I’m with you on this to be honest, and as has been mentioned, rather than the usual suspects getting jobs because they’re in the know so to speak, FGR have put their head above the parapet and given someone with equally as much experience and qualifications.

Too many dinosaurs knocking about.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Not all.  You spoke of fathers explaining to daughters because they were born with a girl private.  Nowadays there are plenty of fathers who have daughters that weren’t born with a girl private.
Do you think they should be excluded ?
Because I don’t !!

Yeah you sound about as woke as Enoch Powell mate.

Quoted from gtfc98

Yeah you sound about as woke as Enoch Powell mate.

Woke is the classic go to when a bigot gets exposed.  Call me what you like.  I just want equality for all.  If that upsets you, then you’re the one with the problem.  

I think this is quite a good story. I do think it’s a publicity stunt - I always suspect that when a story is about either FGR or MK Dons - but let’s see how it goes.

The problem with women playing traditional men’s sports hasn’t actually happened yet. When a woman gets sacked in football for not getting results, or, god forbid, a female boxer ends up in hospital with horrific injuries, it’ll hit society really hard.

We’ve already seen the women’s game moving in a slightly different direction - the lionesses changing from white shorts to blue in case of periods, and now the players have said that boots (designed for men) are causing loads of injuries.

I am no fan of women’s football, but I am really interested to see how things go at FGR. Personally I suspect that club is on a downward spiral and it might not be the best fit.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Woke is the classic go to when a bigot gets exposed.  Call me what you like.  I just want equality for all.  If that upsets you, then you’re the one with the problem.  

Quite tickled that the sarcasm went straight over your head.

Dingley's first game in charge was tonight in a friendly at Melksham Town and resulted in a 1-1 draw.

Quoted from gtfc98

Yeah you sound about as woke as Enoch Powell mate.

What has woke got to do with it. I don’t always agree with Civvy but he’s merely making the point that plenty of people have children who have transitioned, equally, we shouldn’t women strive for the same roles as men?

Not sure what the dig at civvy is about…

Either way, I hope it paves the way.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Fair play to FGR and well done Hannah - will inevitably attract the usual sad nonsense from some quarters and she will have known that when accepting. It's a shame it has to be but it will have been a consideration to her I am sure.

The standard of some of the coaches and managers you see consistently getting jobs is crazy, John Yems for example! I am sure there are many women much better than some of the people currently on the touchline as managers or first team coaches.

We and many other teams have appointed our physio caretaker for a long period of time. Now I love Dave Moore but I would hazard a guess Hannah Dingley has more qualifications and relevant coaching experience than Dave.

I agree in general but in Dave Moore’s case he has actually been manager at Scunthorpe for 2 years before he became physio at Town

Quoted from aldi_01

What has woke got to do with it. I don’t always agree with Civvy but he’s merely making the point that plenty of people have children who have transitioned, equally, we shouldn’t women strive for the same roles as men?

Not sure what the dig at civvy is about…

Either way, I hope it paves the way.

If you think he was genuinely making that point with even an ounce of sincerity you're mistaken.

Ewwww...just watched the post friendly press conference, I honestly don't think a man could be more abhorrent man than Stale Mince, kept interrupting the manager and making it about him, strange man, very strange man.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Ewwww...just watched the post friendly press conference, I honestly don't think a man could be more abhorrent man than Stale Mince, kept interrupting the manager and making it about him, strange man, very strange man.

Take it your not vegan then

Do you need to be a vegan to like somebody else who is a vegan? Vince comes across as a male private, regardless of what he decides he wants to eat.

Quoted from Maringer

Do you need to be a vegan to like somebody else who is a vegan? Vince comes across as a male private, regardless of what he decides he wants to eat.

Fair point

For the record i do find people who don't like/eat meat strange though, they are missing out .

Especially with the alternative vegan fair on offer , i have tried a few bits it just tastes nasty/weird .

Quoted from Mappers

Fair point

For the record i do find people who don't like/eat meat strange though, they are missing out .

Especially with the alternative vegan fair on offer , i have tried a few bits it just tastes nasty/weird .

Strange that a man can impose his "philosophy" on others as long as its Vegan, but if, say BP banned all Vegan/Veg as a "philosophy" questions would be asked in Parliament. "Funny old world" as someone said before me.

And that's part of the problem .

Their view of things is 'my way or no way ' and a lot of people are like that now . I don't actually mind Vince , just like I don't mind female managers , referees(a couple at BP this season were actually better than a lot of the male one's ) or players .

But when he's launching it down your throat that you are wrong to oppose his views , and goes about disrupting other people's  days ,that's when I think he needs to be called out - for some of the people at these sporting events it's probably a once in a lifetime experience and he's orchestrating substantial distruption to their days .

He seems to find it all amusing to , with a little sarky grin on his face when asked about his various little disruption projects , like he's almost doing it for attention/a kick rather than the actual causes he say's he so strongly believes in .

What right has he got to do that ?
What right have we to mock his views ?

By all means live your life how you want to live it , but don't ram it down the throats of those who oppose or could not care less .

Quoted from Mappers

And that's part of the problem .

Their view of things is 'my way or no way ' and a lot of people are like that now . I don't actually mind Vince , just like I don't mind female managers , referees(a couple at BP this season were actually better than a lot of the male one's ) or players .

But when he's launching it down your throat that you are wrong to oppose his views , and goes about disrupting other people's  days ,that's when I think he needs to be called out - for some of the people at these sporting events it's probably a once in a lifetime experience and he's orchestrating substantial distruption to their days .

He seems to find it all amusing to , with a little sarky grin on his face when asked about his various little disruption projects , like he's almost doing it for attention/a kick rather than the actual causes he say's he so strongly believes in .

What right has he got to do that ?
What right have we to mock his views ?

By all means live your life how you want to live it , but don't ram it down the throats of those who oppose or could not care less .

How do you know who's a Vegan in a crowded room?
Because they'll tell you.

Quoted from Mappers

And that's part of the problem .

Their view of things is 'my way or no way ' and a lot of people are like that now . I don't actually mind Vince , just like I don't mind female managers , referees(a couple at BP this season were actually better than a lot of the male one's ) or players .

But when he's launching it down your throat that you are wrong to oppose his views , and goes about disrupting other people's  days ,that's when I think he needs to be called out - for some of the people at these sporting events it's probably a once in a lifetime experience and he's orchestrating substantial distruption to their days .

He seems to find it all amusing to , with a little sarky grin on his face when asked about his various little disruption projects , like he's almost doing it for attention/a kick rather than the actual causes he say's he so strongly believes in .

What right has he got to do that ?
What right have we to mock his views ?

By all means live your life how you want to live it , but don't ram it down the throats of those who oppose or could not care less .

Don't ram your views down other people's throats writes man ramming his views down other people's throats. Apparently without seeing the irony.

I've a somewhat longstanding belief that league clubs should be sacrosanct to large towns and cities where those clubs have been an historic part of the community fabric, particularly in areas with a significant working class heritage. I don't believe the village of Nailsworth, the small town of Fleetwood or the metropolitan borough of Salford need their football clubs in the same way that the likes of Grimsby, or Scunthorpe, or Oldham et al do. You can point to Milton Keynes as having a large population, but it's club's pitiful population / attendance ratio tells you everything you need to know about the dismal failure of that particular experiment.

I don't like the notion of clubs being carried to inflated places in the football pyramid by wealthy benefactors, that they would otherwise have no chance of having reached. Yes, league standings are determined on the basis of footballing merit on the pitch, but that doesn't alter the fact that it flies in the face of football's historic origins. In Forest Green, we have a club currently based in an isolated village of less than 6,000, run not only by a wealthy benefactor but by someone who is using the club as a pawn in his own commercial endeavours - the imposition of a vegan diet on the club's players and visitors to the stadium, the carbon-neutral ground, the organic pitch, and the switching of the club's traditional colours (from black, white and red no less). Sports and politics don't mix.

And yet I can't bring myself to feel the disdain towards Forest Green that I do towards Crawley, or Fleetwood, or Salford. My feelings towards Milton Keynes are much stronger than disdain.

Whatever you make of Dale Vince, he isn't selling fossil fuels. He isn't a gambling magnate. He didn't set up a utilities company designed to scam small businesses. Ultimately, the things that he and Forest Green Rovers stand for are forces for good; and vital ones at that. Tuesday was the hottest day ever recorded on planet earth. Carbon emissions and the compound effects of meat consumption pose an existential threat if not to us, then our children or our grandchildren. The threat is very real.

The green technology we have today is not perfect, and some of it still has its own residual environmental impact. Tofu alone is not going to save the planet. But the ideas Dale Vince is trying to impress upon society are significant steps in the right direction. I say that not as a preacher, but as a hypocrite. I eat meat most days and drive a diesel powered Chelsea tractor - I, like most people, need to change. Attitudes need to change. The fact that we're even debating this on a football messageboard tells you that it's at least effective at starting a conversation.

To that end, is the appointment of Hannah Dingley as interim first-team manager at Forest Green a mere PR stunt? Possibly. Regardless, it's a move brave enough to challenge a taboo about women in football. Whilst there is there ample evidence highlighting the differences between the athletic capabilities of males and females, the world we live in today rightly accepts that no such intellectual gaps exist.

In that case, what are the barriers to women taking top coaching jobs in football? That they did not evolve through the world of elite football as players? Neither did Arsene Wenger, Sven Goran Eriksson, Jose Mourinho, Jurgen Klopp or, erm...Russell Slade. It should not be a terminal issue for women, nor do I think it will be in the future.

For me, regardless of what comes of this appointment, it helps pave the way for other clubs to follow suit in the future by getting much of the media hype out of the way. Some will oppose the idea of women in the dressing room, and they are entitled to that view. However, I think that view will age no better than the idea that racism in football was ok in the 70s and 80s.

Dale Vince and Forest Green do things differently. They have created a unique space for themselves in football and the media, as Wrexham have, however with a far more seismic and meaningful underlying message. Some will inevitably hate them for it. I can't.

Didn't know whether to post here or ex-gtfc players thread but Lee Ashcroft got a 10 match ban for severely verbally abusing Hannah Dingley back in 2013...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/22707465

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

Don't ram your views down other people's throats writes man ramming his views down other people's throats. Apparently without seeing the irony.

There is more I could add , but we are on a football thread after all and it is going towards the other page where 'Tory Vermin ' is ,so will leave it .
Not sure i was ramming my views down throats though , but I respect your opinion .

For Poojah, not copying his write up to save "ink"

A well-written piece, which misses the point.
Some on this forum hate the fact that a woman has been given the opportunity, some applaud it as the best thing ever. Most I suppose look upon it with interest, and see how it pans out in the new season.
None on this forum know how good she is. Her certificates have been mentioned, and positions she has taken, but that means nothing in the end and what will matter is how she manages the marathon 46+ matches will throw at her.
I wish Ms Dingley the best, whilst hoping that GTFC thrash FGR whenever they meet. However she has two problems to overcome, one is the dressing room, and the other is the fans.
In the dressing room, she will meet some knuckle-draggers who will question her knowledge/expertise not only its what they do to all managers, but more so because she's a woman, and that will be inevitable.
Secondly, all fans look at the first (say 10) matches and the FGR forums will be either happy or baying for (sorry FGR) blood. Will she get a fair shake? I doubt it, but it will be hard to prove. Like I say, we will all be looking at FGR this year with interest, perhaps Mr Vince idea in the first place.
As to Dale Vinces Meatless Stadium, you seem ok by that, I find it 1984.

I don't object to people who sell fossil fuels nor to gambling magnates. I loathe Dale Vince and everything he stands for. He is a dangerous man who if he gets his way will bring misery to millions.

As for the change of manager/head coach I can't see it weakening FGR. I rated their chances of promotion in the coming season as very low under Big Dunc but have no idea how the new appointment will do.

Quoted from GrimPol

For Poojah, not copying his write up to save "ink"

A well-written piece, which misses the point.
Some on this forum hate the fact that a woman has been given the opportunity, some applaud it as the best thing ever. Most I suppose look upon it with interest, and see how it pans out in the new season.
None on this forum know how good she is. Her certificates have been mentioned, and positions she has taken, but that means nothing in the end and what will matter is how she manages the marathon 46+ matches will throw at her.
I wish Ms Dingley the best, whilst hoping that GTFC thrash FGR whenever they meet. However she has two problems to overcome, one is the dressing room, and the other is the fans.
In the dressing room, she will meet some knuckle-draggers who will question her knowledge/expertise not only its what they do to all managers, but more so because she's a woman, and that will be inevitable.
Secondly, all fans look at the first (say 10) matches and the FGR forums will be either happy or baying for (sorry FGR) blood. Will she get a fair shake? I doubt it, but it will be hard to prove. Like I say, we will all be looking at FGR this year with interest, perhaps Mr Vince idea in the first place.
As to Dale Vinces Meatless Stadium, you seem ok by that, I find it 1984.

I don't think she'll have to do a great deal to win over the dressing room other than simply know what she's talking about and be good at getting her message across. Competence is the driving force in most workplaces and people align themselves to and trust those who are competent. In an industry where everything is driven by achievement, I don't think she'd have got to where she has without being good at what she does.

That isn't to say football doesn't have coaches who aren't particularly gifted or arrive in big positions on the back of little evidence to support their merit, but given it's likely she will have had to fight harder than the man stood next to her to progress her career purely because that has been the nature of the game for 100+ years I'd say she must be good.

That also isn't any veiled suggestion of sexism in football, more the reality that the game has been segregated in terms of gender for so long that the industry is dominated by men for obvious reasons. I think over the next few decades we will see more females entering the coaching domain but I think it's highly likely that when they do it will be because they have proven themselves competent and worthy of high level positions.

I know they don't get many fans but why do the fanbase accept vegan only food when a tiny percentage of the population are vegans?

In fact why do they put up with his crazy ideas at all, which if implemented would cause misery? The quicker they get back to non league the better.

Quoted from ROKERITE

I don't object to people who sell fossil fuels nor to gambling magnates. I loathe Dale Vince and everything he stands for. He is a dangerous man who if he gets his way will bring misery to millions.

As for the change of manager/head coach I can't see it weakening FGR. I rated their chances of promotion in the coming season as very low under Big Dunc but have no idea how the new appointment will do.

I mean, that first paragraph is weird.
Why do you loath him? That’s a very strong word. What is it that he stands for that will ‘bring misery to millions?’

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I know they don't get many fans but why do the fanbase accept vegan only food when a tiny percentage of the population are vegans?

In fact why do they put up with his crazy ideas at all, which if implemented would cause misery? The quicker they get back to non league the better.

Again, why such a strong emotional response? What is it that he stands for that upsets you so much? If I was an FGR fan, I’d just eat before I went in the stadium.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I know they don't get many fans but why do the fanbase accept vegan only food when a tiny percentage of the population are vegans?

In fact why do they put up with his crazy ideas at all, which if implemented would cause misery? The quicker they get back to non league the better.

Probably because it's only two hours every other Saturday and it's quite easy to go without the food if you don't fancy it?

I knew this thread wouldn’t disappoint. The way some of you go on it’s like you need a joint of beef for every meal.

Quoted from mariner91

Probably because it's only two hours every other Saturday and it's quite easy to go without the food if you don't fancy it?

But shouldn't it be about choice? I don't always eat at matches and if I manage to get down to FGR this season then I'll not buy the food they offer, simple, as you said.

I think someone brought it up earlier though, if BP stopped selling a vegan option then there'd be outrage from our vegan support for not catering to their needs and I'd agree with that argument. It must surely work both ways though? In an age where we have more choice and people are free to eat how they want, be who they want (to an extent), the provision must be universal.

I don't understand how it's ok not to cater to a majority but there's a huge issue when we don't cater for the minority. No football ground can cater for every possible dietary need out there so there has to be some understanding and limitations to what a football club can/can't provide, but vegetarian, vegan and 'normal'(?) are within capability and for me should be available to all. I don't think I'll ever see how you can take two options away and it's discrimination (or word that befits the situation), yet take the third away and there's no issue with it.

Last time I went to FGR I had a great chip butty and a black coffee. JJ Hooper then scored a hat-trick. As an omnivore it was a nice day out.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

But shouldn't it be about choice? I don't always eat at matches and if I manage to get down to FGR this season then I'll not buy the food they offer, simple, as you said.

I think someone brought it up earlier though, if BP stopped selling a vegan option then there'd be outrage from our vegan support for not catering to their needs and I'd agree with that argument. It must surely work both ways though? In an age where we have more choice and people are free to eat how they want, be who they want (to an extent), the provision must be universal.

I don't understand how it's ok not to cater to a majority but there's a huge issue when we don't cater for the minority. No football ground can cater for every possible dietary need out there so there has to be some understanding and limitations to what a football club can/can't provide, but vegetarian, vegan and 'normal'(?) are within capability and for me should be available to all. I don't think I'll ever see how you can take two options away and it's discrimination (or word that befits the situation), yet take the third away and there's no issue with it.

It is catering for the majority though. I eat and enjoy eating meat and fish and dairy products. But equally I can and do eat meals and snacks that are plant based. No human is solely carnivorous or at least shouldn't be so they are offering something for literally everyone. It is still about choice. You can choose to eat there or you can choose not to. I wouldn't do it if I owned a football club but that's up to them.

Quoted from ROKERITE

I don't object to people who sell fossil fuels nor to gambling magnates. I loathe Dale Vince and everything he stands for. He is a dangerous man who if he gets his way will bring misery to millions.

As for the change of manager/head coach I can't see it weakening FGR. I rated their chances of promotion in the coming season as very low under Big Dunc but have no idea how the new appointment will do.

I bet you think Nigel Farage has general public's best interests at heart don't you?

Dale Vince is "dangerous", give your head a wobble mate.

I suspect the Brexit gammon lot are beside themselves again.

It's his club, he can sell what he wants in it. At least he's backing up his beliefs/lifestyle rather than trying to profit from something he opposes like a hypocrite.

Get some chips, or don't get anything and eat before if you're so against eating something that doesn't contain meat, egg or dairy.

Daily Mail headline…..”FURY as vegan sausage rolls cause misery for million”.

FFS

Some of you have short memories.
If you don't eat your greens you're not getting any pudding

Some strange views in this thread.

Wish someone could point out why Dale Vince is a threat to western democracy, because he doesn't eat sausages.

Quoted from ginnywings

Some strange views in this thread.

Wish someone could point out why Dale Vince is a threat to western democracy, because he doesn't eat sausages.

Because he is bankrolling, or helping to bankroll Just stop oil, whose aims are quite ludicrous. "Just stop oil" literally means lives as we know it would cease to function, and at the same time, their activists are disrupting people going about their everyday lives.

Edit. Ive just noticed he is on Question Time tonight so we can watch him make his case. Mind you, if he had his way and just stopped oil there would be no television to watch of course.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

I don't think she'll have to do a great deal to win over the dressing room other than simply know what she's talking about and be good at getting her message across. Competence is the driving force in most workplaces and people align themselves to and trust those who are competent. In an industry where everything is driven by achievement, I don't think she'd have got to where she has without being good at what she does.

That isn't to say football doesn't have coaches who aren't particularly gifted or arrive in big positions on the back of little evidence to support their merit, but given it's likely she will have had to fight harder than the man stood next to her to progress her career purely because that has been the nature of the game for 100+ years I'd say she must be good.

That also isn't any veiled suggestion of sexism in football, more the reality that the game has been segregated in terms of gender for so long that the industry is dominated by men for obvious reasons. I think over the next few decades we will see more females entering the coaching domain but I think it's highly likely that when they do it will be because they have proven themselves competent and worthy of high level positions.

Up to now I can only see (on the FGR Fans and Official site) that Ms Dingley is an interim manager, is there an update?
. Mourinho, Gullit, Villas-Boas, and of course, Clough had their share of losing the dressing room, and they were seasoned operators. If FGR are in the bottom half after 10 games the fans will get restless, and of course, she will get the dreaded  "Backing of the Board" This is an interesting issue, and I wish her luck.
But all this could be just polemic if FGR appoint another manager and Ms Dingley drops back being in charge of the Academy again.

Quoted from ginnywings

Some strange views in this thread.

Wish someone could point out why Dale Vince is a threat to western democracy, because he doesn't eat sausages.

He does eat sausages, just without the meat.

Quoted from chaos33

Again, why such a strong emotional response? What is it that he stands for that upsets you so much? If I was an FGR fan, I’d just eat before I went in the stadium.

Would you back GTFC in banning Veg/Vegan fair, and only selling meat products?

Quoted from ginnywings

Some strange views in this thread.

Wish someone could point out why Dale Vince is a threat to western democracy, because he doesn't eat sausages.

Because he is Bankrolling JSO whilst being bankrolled himself by hard working Bill Payers paying the green energy tariff, he has also bunged the Labour Party a substantial sum of money recently.

Quoted from chaos33

I suspect the Brexit gammon lot are beside themselves again.

Oh get you, of course Gammon can be seen as a Racist slur.
And fyi it wasnt only white people who voted Brexit and not was Brexit in any way Racist, it was a vote against a Political Union we never asked for and during the Referendum leave won fairly and squarely, its called Democracy, suck it up!
Oh and an apology for the Gammon Slur wouldnt go amiss either.

Quoted from Azimuth

Oh get you, of course Gammon can be seen as a Racist slur.
And fyi it wasnt only white people who voted Brexit and not was Brexit in any way Racist, it was a vote against a Political Union we never asked for and during the Referendum leave won fairly and squarely, its called Democracy, suck it up!
Oh and an apology for the Gammon Slur wouldnt go amiss either.

If you think gammon is a slur, you are an absolute pillock.

Quoted from Azimuth

Because he is Bankrolling JSO whilst being bankrolled himself by hard working Bill Payers paying the green energy tariff, he has also bunged the Labour Party a substantial sum of money recently.

Isn’t Mr Vince anti-green energy tariff?

He’s pro windfall tax on the energy companies.

Getyerfaxrite

Quoted from Azimuth

Oh get you, of course Gammon can be seen as a Racist slur.
And fyi it wasnt only white people who voted Brexit and not was Brexit in any way Racist, it was a vote against a Political Union we never asked for and during the Referendum leave won fairly and squarely, its called Democracy, suck it up!
Oh and an apology for the Gammon Slur wouldnt go amiss either.

Gammon is a racist slur hahaha.

Quoted from GrimPol

Would you back GTFC in banning Veg/Vegan fair, and only selling meat products?

Fair? Just do a check on that.

As for your question…..what’s it got to do with anything? Would I back GTFC ‘banning’ vegan food? Why would they ban it? How ridiculous and unnecessary and irrelevant. Do we sell vegan food? I don’t know, and I don’t care. It’s got nothing to do with what we’re talking about.

Quoted from Azimuth

Oh get you, of course Gammon can be seen as a Racist slur.
And fyi it wasnt only white people who voted Brexit and not was Brexit in any way Racist, it was a vote against a Political Union we never asked for and during the Referendum leave won fairly and squarely, its called Democracy, suck it up!
Oh and an apology for the Gammon Slur wouldnt go amiss either.

Hahaha. A racist slur!
You’re an idiot.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

I don't think she'll have to do a great deal to win over the dressing room other than simply know what she's talking about and be good at getting her message across. Competence is the driving force in most workplaces and people align themselves to and trust those who are competent. In an industry where everything is driven by achievement, I don't think she'd have got to where she has without being good at what she does.

That isn't to say football doesn't have coaches who aren't particularly gifted or arrive in big positions on the back of little evidence to support their merit, but given it's likely she will have had to fight harder than the man stood next to her to progress her career purely because that has been the nature of the game for 100+ years I'd say she must be good.

That also isn't any veiled suggestion of sexism in football, more the reality that the game has been segregated in terms of gender for so long that the industry is dominated by men for obvious reasons. I think over the next few decades we will see more females entering the coaching domain but I think it's highly likely that when they do it will be because they have proven themselves competent and worthy of high level positions.

I think that's naieve, a manager could be competent and doing well and still the players that aren't being played will be unhappy and not won over, it's the nature of the game that they will all believe they shoukd be playing. If the team is well clear at the top nobody will listen  to them or care, anything but that and some fans will be. I am sure a manager could be competent but in the intensely competitive environment of football they could still do badly in any particular job or set of circumstances.

She might succeed or she might not but she's under greater pressure than most because even if she did play the game (dunno if she did) then she can have 'ah yes, but it wasn't the men's game so you still don't know what your talking about' thrown at her so there is an extra stick to beat her with. And in football,as we know, there are always fans wanting to have a pop at the manager of their team. Plus she will be under more scrutiny than if a male manager was in her post.

Would normally say good luck to her I think she'll need it, but I don't like FGR so hope she crashes and burns, plus it'll do us a favour!

Quoted from Azimuth

Because he is Bankrolling JSO whilst being bankrolled himself by hard working Bill Payers paying the green energy tariff, he has also bunged the Labour Party a substantial sum of money recently.

Erm, any customer of ecotricity is free to move to another provider. Which will probably be cheaper as genuine green energy (that ecotricity aim for) doesn’t come cheap at the mo. So I can only assume the ‘hard working bill payers’ you refer to are happy with this. Don’t think there’s a law against him donating to a political party of his choice.

This thread only goes to show why the planet’s in the state it’s in. And why we’re unlikely to change it.

Quoted from Marinerdan

Dale Vince is much braver than I thought!

One could argue not as bright as assumed for hiring and giving him a 5-year deal - what business sense does that make?

Quoted from Azimuth

Because he is Bankrolling JSO whilst being bankrolled himself by hard working Bill Payers paying the green energy tariff, he has also bunged the Labour Party a substantial sum of money recently.

I don’t see what point you’re making? Are you saying he’s exploiting bill payers, who, if I’m not mistaken, are able to choose which energy company they use?

Similarly, what’s your point about him having ‘bunged the labour party’? He doesn’t make it a secret, and he’s done nothing wrong, other than support a party that you don’t like?

Your point reflects nothing in relation to the discussion that FGR, whatever anyones opinion, have appointed a manager they believe is the right person for the job. It just so happens that it is a female manager, and it’s extremely sad that in 2023 this still creates a sense of unease.


Personally, I think it’s a breath of fresh air, rather than just pick another failed manager on that ever increasing merry go round, they’ve tried to find something or someone different, and not just for some social media likes…

Quoted from gtfc_chris

But shouldn't it be about choice? I don't always eat at matches and if I manage to get down to FGR this season then I'll not buy the food they offer, simple, as you said.

I think someone brought it up earlier though, if BP stopped selling a vegan option then there'd be outrage from our vegan support for not catering to their needs and I'd agree with that argument. It must surely work both ways though? In an age where we have more choice and people are free to eat how they want, be who they want (to an extent), the provision must be universal.

I don't understand how it's ok not to cater to a majority but there's a huge issue when we don't cater for the minority. No football ground can cater for every possible dietary need out there so there has to be some understanding and limitations to what a football club can/can't provide, but vegetarian, vegan and 'normal'(?) are within capability and for me should be available to all. I don't think I'll ever see how you can take two options away and it's discrimination (or word that befits the situation), yet take the third away and there's no issue with it.

Well one difference is that vegans don’t eat meat but meat eaters do eat vegetables.
Would you go to a vegan restaurant and expect to eat meat?
Out of interest, and I genuinely don’t know the answer, do they search you on your way in to make sure you’re not bringing non-plant foods in?
If, as I suspect not, and someone still needs constant sugar spikes, why not stick a pork pie or a meat samosa in their pocket and flagrantly consume it in front of the directors box?
Actually that raises a thought, maybe it’s all just a fan retention strategy, reduce attrition by helping them live longer.
Not like Stockwoods and Petits to miss such an obvious trick.

Quoted from AussieMariner

Well one difference is that vegans don’t eat meat but meat eaters do eat vegetables.
Would you go to a vegan restaurant and expect to eat meat?
Out of interest, and I genuinely don’t know the answer, do they search you on your way in to make sure you’re not bringing non-plant foods in?
If, as I suspect not, and someone still needs constant sugar spikes, why not stick a pork pie or a meat samosa in their pocket and flagrantly consume it in front of the directors box?
Actually that raises a thought, maybe it’s all just a fan retention strategy, reduce attrition by helping them live longer.
Not like Stockwoods and Petits to miss such an obvious trick.

No, but then I wouldn't go to a vegan restaurant. My eating habits are hugely embarrassing and well beyond rational with the short version being I pretty much only eat meat (cue the jokes!). I also have the choice to eat at a wide range of restaurants.

Despite how it might come across, it's not something I'm particularly angry about it. It is a very simple case of either choose to eat or choose not to eat.

The post I read that caught my attention was how/why FGR fans put up with it. They're there 23+ times a season. They have that same choice to eat/not eat, but they've had a staple part of that choice removed because one person said so. It might be such a inconsequential thing when you look at it for what it is, but I don't get the imposition of it.

"If you want to eat at our football games your only choice is vegan". I'm not one to really one to buy into or delve into the 'forced control' type thoughts but doesn't that sound a bit like it? Again, referencing above, it's inconsequential for a few hours on a Saturday and is it really worth outrage and mass protest, no of course it isn't.

DV has clearly been good for FGR and progressing them as a club and so I'm sure fans will no doubt have some degree of compromise given what he has and will continue to do for them but there's something in one man making a decision and enforcing his own philosophies on the rest that doesn't quite sit right with me.

The bottom line will always be - and understandably so - if you don't like what's on offer, don't eat it. You came to watch football, not eat at a michelin starred restaurant so it's pretty much an irrelevant discussion to have but just because meat eaters can eat vegetables I still don't agree that it's a viewpoint you can impose on everyone else.

I’m certainly on the pro-Vince bandwagon. He’s an easy target for people to have a pop at.

I entirely accept the point about rich owners artificially inflating the ability of clubs with traditionally smaller fanbases to compete at higher levels, but labelling FGR as “Village FC” with no right to play in the FL is a little lazy and unfair. Yes, Nailsworth is a small village, but geographically FGR is slap-bang in the middle of a triangle of Cheltenham/Gloucester, Bristol and Swindon. There are a load of small towns and villages from which they could draw support (a bit like we appeal to fans from Laceby, Keelby, Caistor and so on, rather than just GY).

Likewise, the narrative that Vince took some unheard-of village team from the Dog & Duck League and bankrolled them to the FL is also inaccurate. FGR had already been a Conference club for over a decade before he took over – they’d appeared in couple of FA Trophy finals and made it to the second-round proper of the FA Cup. He’s a locally based businessman who helped his closest club when they were in desperate need of cash.

I can understand how some might see FGR as a vanity project, or as some kind of vehicle for for advertising Ecotricity, what with their electric green kits, solar panels, robot lawnmower, etc. – on the face of it there are some vibes of the Red Bull franchise. But I’d argue that it’s not as simple as that. FGR promotes an entire way of life. The club doesn’t exist to line the pockets of Vince (what lower league club could do that for its owner?) like the Red Bull franchises around the world do. They are an example of how things can be done differently, yet still successfully, which is precisely what humanity needs to do if it doesn’t want to destroy itself.

Let’s be honest, becoming a vegan club, ensuring that all sponsors align with the values of the club, removing meat from the menu for fans are all potential barriers to growth, yet they’ve increased their commercial activity, been recognised by FIFA as the first vegan club, the first carbon neutral club and seen their average attendances rise from 1,000 in the Conference to the mid-to-high 2,000s in League Two, and topped 3,000 in League 1 last year - fairly standard for a small FL club. That is in spite of these self-imposed “barriers”.

If Vince were to leave FGR tomorrow, I’d fancy their chances of being able to retain their FL status organically (no pun intended).

Got to say he was excellent on Question Time last night.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Got to say he was excellent on Question Time last night.

Not hard when he’s on there with a post all dayer Johnny Mercer!

Just looked up the food served on matchday, looks/sounds bloody lovely and sure as hell beats a dry Rollover hot dog or  standard fare rat burger that you see at most matches.

If there's nowt' here to tickle your fancy as a one off when you visit their ground for 2 hours once a year, then i don't really know what to say. I bloody love meat as much as the next person, but most burger, chicken etc substitutes are really nice these days (probably have the same amount of actual meat as your usual standard fare too, hah), if you stop being outraged for a second.

https://www.fgr.co.uk/vegan-food

With regards to donating to the Labour party, is it ok for all of those huge companies to donate to the Tories? All political parties have financial donors.

Some of the  vegan burgers you can get these days are really lovely. Beyond Burgers are delicious. Worth a try if you haven’t tried one.

Quoted from chaos33

Fair? Just do a check on that.

As for your question…..what’s it got to do with anything? Would I back GTFC ‘banning’ vegan food? Why would they ban it? How ridiculous and unnecessary and irrelevant. Do we sell vegan food? I don’t know, and I don’t care. It’s got nothing to do with what we’re talking about.

Its a fair question in the context that FGR have banned meat, hence if its OK  for FGR, is it OK  in reverse, so to speak?  Humour me.

Quoted from GrimPol

Its a fair question in the context that FGR have banned meat, hence if its OK  for FGR, is it OK  in reverse, so to speak?  Humour me.

What we gonna do, ban chips, bread, baked beans, crisps..?

FGR were founded in 1889.  They should get some credit for surviving for such a long time.  They are not an MK Dons.  

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

FGR were founded in 1889.  They should get some credit for surviving for such a long time.  They are not an MK Dons.  

And they used to play in Black and White shirts with red socks

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

And they used to play in Black and White shirts with red socks

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Forest_Green_Rovers/Forest_Green_Rovers.html

Quoted from sam gy

Just looked up the food served on matchday, looks/sounds bloody lovely and sure as hell beats a dry Rollover hot dog or  standard fare rat burger that you see at most matches.

If there's nowt' here to tickle your fancy as a one off when you visit their ground for 2 hours once a year, then i don't really know what to say. I bloody love meat as much as the next person, but most burger, chicken etc substitutes are really nice these days (probably have the same amount of actual meat as your usual standard fare too, hah), if you stop being outraged for a second.

https://www.fgr.co.uk/vegan-food

With regards to donating to the Labour party, is it ok for all of those huge companies to donate to the Tories? All political parties have financial donors.

I'm not sure the taste of vegan is the point, its the fact that you must have it, that is the point.
In the end, FGR are a club of interest when only when Town play them. But now they have thrown up an interesting point with their interim manager, so its up for discussion.

There no ‘must’ about it. I don’t think your stance is credible really. You just adapt. Eat elsewhere, choose something that is available etc. it’s just a non issue. You don’t go to a Thai restaurant, lose your sh1t and complain because they’re not serving bangers and mash.

Quoted from GrimPol

I'm not sure the taste of vegan is the point, its the fact that you must have it, that is the point.
In the end, FGR are a club of interest when only when Town play them. But now they have thrown up an interesting point with their interim manager, so its up for discussion.

It's not the case that you 'must have it'. If the ground only offers vegan food then you have the right to choose other options from elsewhere. I'll take a bet that you've never been to a French restaurant and complained that you can't get Thai food. Your objection (I'm making an assumption here) is that you don't want to eat vegan food - and that's fine - but FGR is a private business that can make it's own decisions and is obviously not worried that a proportion of spectators want to eat meat based products.

Eat before you go in to the ground, take sandwiches etc etc

Or there's your ultimate choice... don't go to FGR.

I remember when I was young, I’d stay at my Nanna’s house and she only ever had Vitalite spread for toast in the morning. Was flipping fuming, and always questioned why she was forcing me to eat vegan food.

Quoted from sam gy

I remember when I was young, I’d stay at my Nanna’s house and she only ever had Vitalite spread for toast in the morning. Was flipping fuming, and always questioned why she was forcing me to eat vegan food.

She was obviously part of the Marxist, vegan, woke conspiracy.

😂

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

It's not the case that you 'must have it'. If the ground only offers vegan food then you have the right to choose other options from elsewhere. I'll take a bet that you've never been to a French restaurant and complained that you can't get Thai food. Your objection (I'm making an assumption here) is that you don't want to eat vegan food - and that's fine - but FGR is a private business that can make it's own decisions and is obviously not worried that a proportion of spectators want to eat meat based products.

Eat before you go in to the ground, take sandwiches etc etc

Or there's your ultimate choice... don't go to FGR.

So  BobbyCummingsTackle do answer the question, would it be ok for GTFC to ban Vegan/Vegetarian fair?

Quoted from chaos33

There no ‘must’ about it. I don’t think your stance is credible really. You just adapt. Eat elsewhere, choose something that is available etc. it’s just a non issue. You don’t go to a Thai restaurant, lose your sh1t and complain because they’re not serving bangers and mash.

"You don’t go to a Thai restaurant, lose your sh1t and complain because they’re not serving bangers and mash" What a nonsense statement, and please don't use profane language.
So you agree with me then that if GTFC decided to ban Vegan/Vegetarian fair, as per you OK'ing FGR stance, then thats OK?

Non vegans/vegetarians can still eat vegan/vegetarian food like a chip butty as Chrisblor said he'd had at FGR.  So by banning non vegan/vegetarian food, there is still something that everybody can eat. Literally everyone on here will have had food or snacks at some point in their life that doesn't include meat or animal products.

If you ban vegan/vegetarian food then you are excluding some of the crowd from having any options to eat. It is not the same. Anyone that can't see that is being either deliberately obtuse and belligerent or is incredibly dense.

When did football become so boring, bring back pukka pies

Quoted from GrimPol

So  BobbyCummingsTackle do answer the question, would it be ok for GTFC to ban Vegan/Vegetarian fair?

Your question suggests that I am the arbiter in this decision and that GTFC should be discussing it with me. I am not involved in GTFC and I have absolutely no say in their decisions.

Legally they have the right to do so, Blundell Park is private property and a private company. The owners have the right to do as they wish as long as that falls within current legislation.

I suspect that they wouldn't (although I don't know) because the owners are unlikely to want Blundell Park to be a battleground in some sort of culture war. It would also probably be a poor business decision based on the majority of GTFC's home demographic - but I say 'probably' because I don't have access to the data about match day eating habits at Blundell Park or spectator demographics.

Quoted from GrimPol

"You don’t go to a Thai restaurant, lose your sh1t and complain because they’re not serving bangers and mash" What a nonsense statement, and please don't use profane language.
So you agree with me then that if GTFC decided to ban Vegan/Vegetarian fair, as per you OK'ing FGR stance, then thats OK?

Of course they could it, it’s a private business and it can sell whatever it likes. Doesn’t have to sell any food at all.

Not sure how popular it will be when crisps, chocolate, sweets and chips are off the menu and the only thing to drink is Bovril!

hmmm why has Marmite not started a football Club? All their stadium's food would have marmite in it! Imagine a marmite hater having to go a full match without eating anything!! They'd have to call in UN Peacekeepers!

Quoted from GrimPol

So  BobbyCummingsTackle do answer the question, would it be ok for GTFC to ban Vegan/Vegetarian fair?

ooh, by the way...you meant fare or fayre.

A fair is a gathering of people for commercial or entertainment purposes. Unless you think that the owners of GTFC would ban a vegan/vegetarian fair that used Blundell Park as a venue?

Quoted from Southwark Mariner

hmmm why has Marmite not started a football Club? All their stadium's food would have marmite in it! Imagine a marmite hater having to go a full match without eating anything!! They'd have to call in UN Peacekeepers!

I would not be going anywhere near the place  :D

Quoted from GrimPol

"You don’t go to a Thai restaurant, lose your sh1t and complain because they’re not serving bangers and mash" What a nonsense statement, and please don't use profane language.
So you agree with me then that if GTFC decided to ban Vegan/Vegetarian fair, as per you OK'ing FGR stance, then thats OK?

Sorry, are you still digging your hole?

If I must answer your straw man question, then I wouldn’t care, personally as far as visiting fans go. I’d apply the same logic as outlined in terms of away fans who were vegan; using their options and adapting, but, as I’m a Grimsby fan, I wouldn’t think it wise if  the owners were to choose to do such a pointless thing.

My mum always recommended that you ‘never argue with a fool’ so I admit I’m failing to heed that advice in this instance.

Who the fűck goes to a football match for the food anyway?

Quoted from chaos33

Hahaha. A racist slur!
You’re an idiot.

Any insult refering to or insinuating a persons skin colour is indeed Racist, it is not okay by any stretch of the imagination no matter who it is aimed at.

Just because Gammon is a insult favoured by the left aimed at the White British population doea not mean it doeant have Racial connertations.
I would never dream of judging anyone on skin and am surprised at anyone who uses such language.

Quoted from Azimuth

Any insult refering to or insinuating a persons skin colour is indeed Racist, it is not okay by any stretch of the imagination no matter who it is aimed at.

Just because Gammon is a insult favoured by the left aimed at the White British population doea not mean it doeant have Racial connertations.
I would never dream of judging anyone on skin and am surprised at anyone who uses such language.

It isn't a slur. Gammon is a pejorative popularised in British political culture since around 2012. The term refers in particular to the colour of a person's flushed face when expressing their strong opinions, as compared to the type of pork of the same name.It is characterised in this context by the Oxford English Dictionary as occurring "in various parasynthetic adjectives referring to particularly reddish or florid complexions".

Quoted from Azimuth

Any insult refering to or insinuating a persons skin colour is indeed Racist, it is not okay by any stretch of the imagination no matter who it is aimed at.

Just because Gammon is a insult favoured by the left aimed at the White British population doea not mean it doeant have Racial connertations.
I would never dream of judging anyone on skin and am surprised at anyone who uses such language.

Its aimed at the brain dead element of our population. Nothing to do with race, everything to do with lack of intellect.

Evident here in what this person’s posts.

Quoted from mariner91

Non vegans/vegetarians can still eat vegan/vegetarian food like a chip butty as Chrisblor said he'd had at FGR.  So by banning non vegan/vegetarian food, there is still something that everybody can eat. Literally everyone on here will have had food or snacks at some point in their life that doesn't include meat or animal products.

If you ban vegan/vegetarian food then you are excluding some of the crowd from having any options to eat. It is not the same. Anyone that can't see that is being either deliberately obtuse and belligerent or is incredibly dense.

Banning Vegan food does not exclude many people in the crowd other than a few with intolerances or food allergies. Vegatablists are quite welcome to eat a balti pie if they want same as you are welcome to eat a quorn burger at forest green. Really don't get the fuss if you don't like it don't go

If Vince was busy extolling the virtues of veganism whilst selling meat products in their ground, people would have him labelled as a money grabbing hypocrite.
He’s being the change he wants to see in society and I can respect that even if I may not subscribe to it myself.

Exactly that. But you have the permanently outraged idiots who read the Daily Mail and watch GB News that want you to feel, not think; hate this group and that group, and shut down those others and everything is someone else’s fault - the remainer establishment (who the f*** are they?), the wokerati, the cultural Marxists, the blob, the anti growth coalition and so on and so on. Utter nonsense.
These people have poisoned our democracy, wrecked our economy and tried to shut down sense and kindness and pragmatism and togetherness. If you’re buying it - you’re a mug, and you’re ruining things for everyday, kind and decent folk.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

Your question suggests that I am the arbiter in this decision and that GTFC should be discussing it with me. I am not involved in GTFC and I have absolutely no say in their decisions.

Legally they have the right to do so, Blundell Park is private property and a private company. The owners have the right to do as they wish as long as that falls within current legislation.

I suspect that they wouldn't (although I don't know) because the owners are unlikely to want Blundell Park to be a battleground in some sort of culture war. It would also probably be a poor business decision based on the majority of GTFC's home demographic - but I say 'probably' because I don't have access to the data about match day eating habits at Blundell Park or spectator demographics.

"Your question suggests that I am the arbiter in this decision and that GTFC should be discussing it with me".  Really, you think I mistook you for a "director" of GTFC.?
" I am not involved in GTFC and I have absolutely no say in their decisions" Really? You joined in 2020 posted 1700 times mostly saying what GTFC should do.  

Quoted from chaos33

Exactly that. But you have the permanently outraged idiots who read the Daily Mail and watch GB News that want you to feel, not think; hate this group and that group, and shut down those others and everything is someone else’s fault - the remainer establishment (who the f*** are they?), the wokerati, the cultural Marxists, the blob, the anti growth coalition and so on and so on. Utter nonsense.
These people have poisoned our democracy, wrecked our economy and tried to shut down sense and kindness and pragmatism and togetherness. If you’re buying it - you’re a mug, and you’re ruining things for everyday, kind and decent folk.

I think you are hyperventilating, and If you are not careful your blood pressure will skyrocket, you'll change colour and people might mistake you for Gammon.

Beetroot, not gammon. Surely in this thread?

this is the most nothing burger of stupid threads I've seen on the fishy in a while.

stopped being about football about 7 replies in...

This thread is hilarious. I love how the thought of having vegan food leaves everyone with no options to eat anything and that they would die If they didn't consume animal products for 3 hours! Vegans won't eat animal products, but meat eaters can eat vegan food. So having products with only animal derivatives in, would exclude some fans, whereas having plant-based food everyone still could eat everything. (allergies aside)

The rhetoric that vegan food taste horrible is just lazy, the Q pies at FGR are probably the nicest ones I have tasted at any football ground, and that was as a meat eater at the time. DV and FGR played a small part in our decision to go plant-based as a family 4 years ago and haven't looked back since, and we now see ourselves as vegan rather than plant-based.

Quoted from GrimPol

"Your question suggests that I am the arbiter in this decision and that GTFC should be discussing it with me".  Really, you think I mistook you for a "director" of GTFC.?
" I am not involved in GTFC and I have absolutely no say in their decisions" Really? You joined in 2020 posted 1700 times mostly saying what GTFC should do.  

Asking me should GTFC do X,Y or Z suggests that you think I have some kind of influence. I don`t.

Thanks for the stat attack. I`d be surprised if anyone at the club had read any of my 1700 posts and I`d be bloody staggered if they`d had any influence on decision making in the club.

In fact, probably 1600 of those posts are my sarcastic attempts at wit and I`d be worried if they influenced thinking in the corridors of power at BP.

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

This thread is hilarious. I love how the thought of having vegan food leaves everyone with no options to eat anything and that they would die If they didn't consume animal products for 3 hours! Vegans won't eat animal products, but meat eaters can eat vegan food. So having products with only animal derivatives in, would exclude some fans, whereas having plant-based food everyone still could eat everything. (allergies aside)

The rhetoric that vegan food taste horrible is just lazy, the Q pies at FGR are probably the nicest ones I have tasted at any football ground, and that was as a meat eater at the time. DV and FGR played a small part in our decision to go plant-based as a family 4 years ago and haven't looked back since, and we now see ourselves as vegan rather than plant-based.

I know, I know...

I am a committed carnivore but had to have a vegan pie at Brighton because they didn`t have any meat ones left. It was lovely. And I lived to tell the tale.

Anyway…….sacking someone seven months into a five year contract? I wonder what went on there?

Quoted from RonMariner

Anyway…….sacking someone seven months into a five year contract? I wonder what went on there?

Got caught eating the chairman's partners hairy pie i read on twitter, if you can believe everything posted on twitter

Quoted from Simon

Got caught eating the chairman's partners hairy pie i read on twitter, if you can believe everything posted on twitter

But was it vegan?

Beef curtains are not vegan.

I wonder if she fancied a bit of big duncs’s not pork sword!

She didn't last long.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12922543/hannah-dingleys-spell-as-interim-head-coach-at-forest-green-to-end-as-david-horseman-hired-to-replace-duncan-ferguson

Crikey

Quoted from chaos33

Crikey

She was only ever “caretaker manager”, something the media generally chose to overlook. They’ve appointed David Horseman, Southampton’s “B-team” manager. If their A-team last season is anything to go by, she’ll be back in the hotseat before you eat an Uncle Dale beetroot and quinoa burger…

I might not agree with him but Dale certainly knows how to (oat) milk the system. Gives a female coach a couple of meaningless games and gets publicity you can't buy, then of course employs a permanent male manager.

That’s quite a cynical reading of the situation that seems an output of your already stated, finished opinion of him.

Quoted from Poojah

She was only ever “caretaker manager”, something the media generally chose to overlook. They’ve appointed David Horseman, Southampton’s “B-team” manager. If their A-team last season is anything to go by, she’ll be back in the hotseat before you eat an Uncle Dale beetroot and quinoa burger…

Their B Team won the Premier League B League or whatever it's called. I'd be very happy if we had a managerial vacancy and this guy was appointed.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

Their B Team won the Premier League B League or whatever it's called. I'd be very happy if we had a managerial vacancy and this guy was appointed.

Well, they won what is known as “Premier League 2, Division 2”, so effectively the second tier of “elite” reserve / development football. It’s a small division contested over 20 games, with a lot of emphasis placed on playing style over cold, hard results.

Not diminishing the bloke’s achievement, but it’s a big step from under-23 football to fiery cauldron that is the New Lawn.

Quoted from chaos33

That’s quite a cynical reading of the situation that seems an output of your already stated, finished opinion of him.

My opinion is my own, cynical or otherwise. I am very happy for you to have the opposite fixed position.