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I’m certainly on the pro-Vince bandwagon. He’s an easy target for people to have a pop at.
I entirely accept the point about rich owners artificially inflating the ability of clubs with traditionally smaller fanbases to compete at higher levels, but labelling FGR as “Village FC” with no right to play in the FL is a little lazy and unfair. Yes, Nailsworth is a small village, but geographically FGR is slap-bang in the middle of a triangle of Cheltenham/Gloucester, Bristol and Swindon. There are a load of small towns and villages from which they could draw support (a bit like we appeal to fans from Laceby, Keelby, Caistor and so on, rather than just GY).
Likewise, the narrative that Vince took some unheard-of village team from the Dog & Duck League and bankrolled them to the FL is also inaccurate. FGR had already been a Conference club for over a decade before he took over – they’d appeared in couple of FA Trophy finals and made it to the second-round proper of the FA Cup. He’s a locally based businessman who helped his closest club when they were in desperate need of cash.
I can understand how some might see FGR as a vanity project, or as some kind of vehicle for for advertising Ecotricity, what with their electric green kits, solar panels, robot lawnmower, etc. – on the face of it there are some vibes of the Red Bull franchise. But I’d argue that it’s not as simple as that. FGR promotes an entire way of life. The club doesn’t exist to line the pockets of Vince (what lower league club could do that for its owner?) like the Red Bull franchises around the world do. They are an example of how things can be done differently, yet still successfully, which is precisely what humanity needs to do if it doesn’t want to destroy itself.
Let’s be honest, becoming a vegan club, ensuring that all sponsors align with the values of the club, removing meat from the menu for fans are all potential barriers to growth, yet they’ve increased their commercial activity, been recognised by FIFA as the first vegan club, the first carbon neutral club and seen their average attendances rise from 1,000 in the Conference to the mid-to-high 2,000s in League Two, and topped 3,000 in League 1 last year - fairly standard for a small FL club. That is in spite of these self-imposed “barriers”.
If Vince were to leave FGR tomorrow, I’d fancy their chances of being able to retain their FL status organically (no pun intended).
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Got to say he was excellent on Question Time last night.
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Got to say he was excellent on Question Time last night.
Not hard when he’s on there with a post all dayer Johnny Mercer!
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Just looked up the food served on matchday, looks/sounds bloody lovely and sure as hell beats a dry Rollover hot dog or standard fare rat burger that you see at most matches. If there's nowt' here to tickle your fancy as a one off when you visit their ground for 2 hours once a year, then i don't really know what to say. I bloody love meat as much as the next person, but most burger, chicken etc substitutes are really nice these days (probably have the same amount of actual meat as your usual standard fare too, hah), if you stop being outraged for a second. https://www.fgr.co.uk/vegan-foodWith regards to donating to the Labour party, is it ok for all of those huge companies to donate to the Tories? All political parties have financial donors.
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Some of the vegan burgers you can get these days are really lovely. Beyond Burgers are delicious. Worth a try if you haven’t tried one.
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Fair? Just do a check on that.
As for your question…..what’s it got to do with anything? Would I back GTFC ‘banning’ vegan food? Why would they ban it? How ridiculous and unnecessary and irrelevant. Do we sell vegan food? I don’t know, and I don’t care. It’s got nothing to do with what we’re talking about.
Its a fair question in the context that FGR have banned meat, hence if its OK for FGR, is it OK in reverse, so to speak? Humour me.
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Its a fair question in the context that FGR have banned meat, hence if its OK for FGR, is it OK in reverse, so to speak? Humour me.
What we gonna do, ban chips, bread, baked beans, crisps..?
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FGR were founded in 1889. They should get some credit for surviving for such a long time. They are not an MK Dons.
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FGR were founded in 1889. They should get some credit for surviving for such a long time. They are not an MK Dons.
And they used to play in Black and White shirts with red socks
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