Should England take the knee.?

Quoted from LH

In a thread of utter excrement this is the sweetcorn on the top of the pile.

I am simply passing an opinion about the direction the game has taken. I find your comment objectionable. You seem to be just looking for trouble where none exists which for a moderator is pretty disgraceful.

We now have one group of people genuinely claiming that taking the knee has nothing to do with BLM. It's a spectacularly brazen piece of revisionism. On the other side, we have people booing at their own players before matches. There's a reason people suggest keeping politics out of sport. It's become an ugly, divisive mess.

I've read and heard a lot of opinions on this. We're all allowed to express an opinion (free speech, etc). I get all that.

But I can't get away from the deep discomfort I feel when I hear people boo.

It's a gut reaction. It feels like we're booing a protest against racism. I'm sure I'll be told it's more than that, and we can once again bring up topics like politics and Marxism but essentially it feels like people have gone searching for reasons to object against the gesture.

Watching the England players take a knee doesn't rile me like it does others. I just see a bunch of people who want to show solidarity in the fight against racism. I won't boo that.

I think the players should be free to make whatever political gesture they like, within the law.  

For those who are calling for no place of politics in sport, have you had your eyes closed for the last god knows how many decades?  Politics and sport always have and always will be strongly linked.

Sadly, I now wonder what overall benefit the taking of the knee gives.  The stand against racism is not only admirable but well overdue.  Unfortunately the actions seem to draw out more morons.  The knee alone is not enough.  Firmer action is needed by more parties, not just the social media companies either.  Football has and is too soft on racism, but that change has to start internally.  A firm approach is needed on racist actions by players and fans, not gestures and token punishments.  Society has an even bigger role to play here, yes football has a social responsibility but this isn't a problem isolated to the game, it's far bigger than that.  Until society is actually prepared to tackle the issue head on, it's always going to be a case of swimming against the tide.

Without a firmer line I fear the knee will only serve to give fuel to those who oppose an anti-racism stance.  

Quoted from TAGG

That's a load of balderdash.
This all started with support of BLM, a Marxist band of charlatans and is still to this day.

intercourse it, I’ll bite…

Come on then TAGG. Please enlighten us with some proof of how all this is linked to Marxism and then give us 5 reasons why Marixism is as evil as you’re suggesting.

You won’t be able to will you because you’ve no idea what you’re railing against. You’re angry at your own impotence, you’re angry that you’re being marginalised in fact you’re just plain angry. Trouble is you’re focusing that anger in entirely the wrong direction. We live in a country where neoliberalism has ripped society apart in the name of making a few more tawdry shillings. Point your rage at those people rather than anyone trying to make the world a bit less excrement for everyone.

It’s hilarious when 99% of the people who claim they’re so against “Marxism” don’t actually know what it is.

Quoted from mariner91

It’s hilarious when 99% of the people who claim they’re so against “Marxism” don’t actually know what it is.

Very much my point 😉

I'm just scanning the posts here looking for where the 'keep politics out of sport' brigade are piling in on Johnson and Dowden for criticising the ECB's decision to ban Ollie Robinson.....

Quoted from LH

In a thread of utter excrement this is the sweetcorn on the top of the pile.

That comment says far more about you than it does RRFC. Are we only allowed to express views that suit your narrative? His post was not in the least contentious and your reaction to it is beyond bizarre.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

I'm just scanning the posts here looking for where the 'keep politics out of sport' brigade are piling in on Johnson and Dowden for criticising the ECB's decision to ban Ollie Robinson.....

Have you tried a cricket forum?  

As it happens I for one am delighted the PM and Culture secretary have come out in support of Ollie Robinson. Trying to disrupt his career about tweets sent when he was a teenager is way over the top. He has given a full apology and that should be the end of the matter.