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aldi_01
June 6, 2021, 7:26pm

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I mean if people are upset politics are in football then they must’ve had their head buried for a long time...

I don’t agree that our national anthem celebrates an unelected head of state, or that it doesn’t really celebrate the nation more a singular person but I don’t boo it.

Same as this, booing taking the knee is just childish and pointless...half the people booing would struggle to give a balanced reason as to why they are...


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Football has done its bit. Yes it was iconic when they first did it. They all stood (knelt) together, but when is enough enough? If the FA/UEFA/PFA don't take a pedestal and say that's that, then this could go on for years.
If the problem is with those who boo when the knee is taken (whether that can be construed as racism or not) , they are the problem, and should be dealt with within the grounds. Every ground has CCTV so culprits should be recognised and dealt with if need be.

Personally I think it should be stopped. There can be so many other ways to get the message across, whatever that message is now.

What's going to be the next reason that football will try to throw their weight behind? The regular spats between Israel and the Gaza strip? The ongoing problem in the Yemen? The persecution of white farmers in South Africa?

Football should be concerned with keeping its own house in order before sticking their fingers in various pies that they have no real reasoning to be concerned with.
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[Yet] another illuminating and fascinating thread on the subject which hasn’t been done to death on here with almost everyone involved showing their árse at some point over the last 18 months.
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It’s been clearly explained it’s not in support of any organisation. It is an anti racist and equality stance. If that’s what they want to do, well done them.

If people want to boo that, it’s a free country, but you have to ask - why are they?

But don’t Give it the “we’re boing a Marxist organisation” you’ve been told quite clearly that isnt what it’s about.


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Be interesting to see a Venn diagram of people saying we should keep politics out of football and people who would sing no surrender at an England game.
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Quoted from ska face
[Yet] another illuminating and fascinating thread on the subject which hasn’t been done to death on here with almost everyone involved showing their árse at some point over the last 18 months.


It's amazing the thread was started way after the match started and players took the knee. A bit of an afterthought to get attention by someone!

As you say the subject has been well and truly debated on here and doesn't need resurrecting at all England games, or any other game come to that. Taking the knee is not going to go away for the time being so it's all a matter of individual choice as to whether you like it or not.


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They can if they want, but fans can boo if they want as well. I'd rather they focussed on winning games and trying to win the Euros. Southgate could have helped in that respect by not dishing out caps like confetti and playing a consistent system with the best eleven over the last few games. Instead, he's played players that aren't even in the Euros squad. I've lost faith in him.
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Quoted from aldi_01
I mean if people are upset politics are in football then they must’ve had their head buried for a long time...

I don’t agree that our national anthem celebrates an unelected head of state, or that it doesn’t really celebrate the nation more a singular person but I don’t boo it.

Same as this, booing taking the knee is just childish and pointless...half the people booing would struggle to give a balanced reason as to why they are...


Well half the people taking the knee would also struggle to give a balanced reason why they are taking the knee?
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Just to make my feelings clear if some racist wants to monkey chant at black players in 2021 I want to see them jailed and I will happily grab the twit by the neck and drag him to the nearest steward. However I personally don`t want to see players kneeling let alone on the 6th June a day when countless thousands of Englishmen died trying to rid Europe of Hitler. A better message could have been sent today surely?
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