Should England take the knee.?

In my opinion this course of action has run its course.

Sadly, this truth does not seem to resonate with those at the top of the game, who have been preoccupied with the trend of tiresome social justice activism and sanctimonious PR stunts. Premier League matches still start with players taking a knee, vaguely in support of racial justice. The kneeling, the constant conversations about race, and now this boycott are all part of the same genre: A fashionable spectacle that doesn't achieve anything beyond some vacuous virtue signalling.

It can escape no one that sport has become the latest battleground for the culture war. But the only division fans want is a winning margin for their team, they don't need identity politics to make sport even more divisive, its time to leave the opinions OFF the field.

We live in a multicultural liberal society where as a person of any creed or colour you are free to become a multi-million pound football player or come from a rough housing estate through hard work.

I would love to know how many black lives have improved as a result of 22 over paid prima donna's taking the knee before every game, its becoming tiresome !

Quoted from Sir Matt Tease

In my opinion this course of action has run its course.

Sadly, this truth does not seem to resonate with those at the top of the game, who have been preoccupied with the trend of tiresome social justice activism and sanctimonious PR stunts. Premier League matches still start with players taking a knee, vaguely in support of racial justice. The kneeling, the constant conversations about race, and now this boycott are all part of the same genre: A fashionable spectacle that doesn't achieve anything beyond some vacuous virtue signalling.

It can escape no one that sport has become the latest battleground for the culture war. But the only division fans want is a winning margin for their team, they don't need identity politics to make sport even more divisive, its time to leave the opinions OFF the field.

We live in a multicultural liberal society where as a person of any creed or colour you are free to become a multi-million pound football player or come from a rough housing estate through hard work.

I would love to know how many black lives have improved as a result of 22 over paid prima donna's taking the knee before every game, its becoming tiresome !

Sorry to hear it’s tiresome for you to watch 22 men kneel for 3 seconds. Imagine how tiresome a lifetime of discrimination is. Many of those kneeling experience racism on a daily basis via social media which is plain for all to see. They are taking a stand against this and the only opinion they are expressing is that racism is wrong.

By the way I don’t know what country you’ve been living in if you think the only barrier to people of any colour becoming millionaires is hard work.

Kinell here we go again. “Hard left Marxists blah blah” “other brain dead phrase picked up from social media”.

Personally I hope they keep on taking the knee. It’s like an instant IQ test so we can spot the thickos in the crowd - if you see someone booing you’ll know they’re hard of thinking.

A small amount of crystal ball gazing slightly off topic would reveal that in 20/30 years football will have changed beyond all recognition. It will be played by teams composed predominantly of black players and run by franchises. We only need to look at the number of black players in Town shirts relative to the population of the town when it is only a generation since our first black player. I don’t know how that will work out in the long run but it will be different. There will be no need for the Sol Campbells to keep a chip on their shoulder. Football is already ceasing to be a white working class leisure activity to play and it is happening quite quickly. There are precedents from the USA in boxing and basketball offering ways to fame and fortune to black kids.

FFS how many more times do we have to go into this
Some people agree some people don’t get over it.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

A small amount of crystal ball gazing slightly off topic would reveal that in 20/30 years football will have changed beyond all recognition. It will be played by teams composed predominantly of black players and run by franchises. We only need to look at the number of black players in Town shirts relative to the population of the town when it is only a generation since our first black player. I don’t know how that will work out in the long run but it will be different. There will be no need for the Sol Campbells to keep a chip on their shoulder. Football is already ceasing to be a white working class leisure activity to play and it is happening quite quickly. There are precedents from the USA in boxing and basketball offering ways to fame and fortune to black kids.

I’m failing to see your issue?

Once again, we’re having a debate when the loudest seem the least informed...I mean throwing around ‘Marxist’ as an insult is somewhat bizarre but each to their own.

Like I say, perhaps the booing fraternity could recognise that all they are is rude and ironic...

To be honest, I’m still baffled as to why people are so worked up about about something which takes a mere few seconds, nothing more...if you’re that arsed have another pint or go for a slash...

There is no “should” about it. To use the word should seems to imply that there is a right and wrong in the choice.

I am pleased that they do, since I am against everything regarding institutional racism and racial prejudice.

I am not one of these people who clearly do not understand the true message that is being sent out by players, both white and back players. I am not one of the people that foolishly say “all lives matter” in ignorance of the fact that nobody in BLM is saying they don’t. The statement and slogan has never ever read “only Black Lives Matter”.

Racism makes me feel sick to the pit of my stomach, and frankly I feel that those booing the players are horrible. We don’t boo those that don’t choose to take the knee. There’s just no need for it.

Society really is troubled at times

Quoted from codcheeky

More people than you think care. Perhaps racism doesn’t affect you in any way, perhaps you don’t believe it exists in this country. The arguments about what it stands for have been deliberately muddied and called Marxist because it suits the racist agenda, Marxism is a scare word similar to socialism is in the US, a word bandied about to frighten the uneducated and chosen so the racists among us can justify their booing without perhaps needing to admit to their selves the true reason

I actually meant, who cares if they take a knee or not. And I know full well that racism is rife in Britain, and in fact the world as a whole. My family were persecuted and my auntie murdered on their farm in Rhodesia and I’ve seen enough how different religions too are treated (and treat each other) living in Northern Ireland.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

A small amount of crystal ball gazing slightly off topic would reveal that in 20/30 years football will have changed beyond all recognition. It will be played by teams composed predominantly of black players and run by franchises. We only need to look at the number of black players in Town shirts relative to the population of the town when it is only a generation since our first black player. I don’t know how that will work out in the long run but it will be different. There will be no need for the Sol Campbells to keep a chip on their shoulder. Football is already ceasing to be a white working class leisure activity to play and it is happening quite quickly. There are precedents from the USA in boxing and basketball offering ways to fame and fortune to black kids.

In a thread of utter excrement this is the sweetcorn on the top of the pile.

We’re a democratic country with in essence a free press and a system where onto a point you can speak freely, not everybody agrees or disagrees with everyone’s opinion. So let the players take the knee and let those that want to boo. As an afterthought, why is it sportspersons who take the knee, why don’t the Tesco workers do it at the start of a shift, or are they racist because they don’t?