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Why didn’t they just choose to do something that wasn’t linked to any movement and get the vast majority of people behind them, instead of it splitting them. There wouldn’t have been all these problems then. Guess that was too much of a simple solution.


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Probably cause that was FIFA who don’t allow any political/religious imagery on any kits.

I thought they were Marxists?! Now they’re fascists?! I can’t keep up and evidently, neither can you.


I thought common sense had prevailed and FIFA eventually backed the decision on god-forbid our remembrance?
BLM is Marxist!... hey if their leader says so then I would presume there is a good chance that they are 😲

I would certainly class the extreme members of BLM who pull down statues they don’t like, desecrate our war memorials, attack people even the police for not taking the knee as left wing fascists.

Look I’ve already gave a solution stop kneeling and do another gesture linking hands for example I guarantee it would stop.
Millwall football fans were lambasted for booing the taking of the  knee, stereotyped as per the usual knuckle dragging racists, but in the next game when the players linked arms and held up a banner against racism they all cheered!
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No I'm afraid they should not because it's achieving nothing - in fact it's counter-productive and is probably making the situation worse.

Firstly, I don't believe the majority of those fans who were booing did so because they're 'racist'. They just don't like being lectured to in such a patronising way by the likes of Gary Lineker and his woke friends.

Secondly, racism was at its most serious 50 years ago during the civil rights movement in America and the apartheid system in South Africa. Racial equality has made massive strides since then and what we see today pales into insignificance - the current protests are instigated by people who have no sense of proportion and little or no understanding of history.

Thirdly, Martin Luther King once famously said that he hoped one day that people wouldn't be identified by the colour of their skin, but by their character. Sadly, the current political posturing is obsessed by  people's skin colour, which is an insult to the memory of Dr King.

If we keep banging on about some brainless nutter posting a racist tweet, then all we're doing is giving them the oxygen of publicity - and this merely spurs them on to do it again. Ignore them, and eventually they will get bored and find something else to do.
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No I'm afraid they should not because it's achieving nothing - in fact it's counter-productive and is probably making the situation worse.

Firstly, I don't believe the majority of those fans who were booing did so because they're 'racist'. They just don't like being lectured to in such a patronising way by the likes of Gary Lineker and his woke friends.

Secondly, racism was at its most serious 50 years ago during the civil rights movement in America and the apartheid system in South Africa. Racial equality has made massive strides since then and what we see today pales into insignificance - the current protests are instigated by people who have no sense of proportion and little or no understanding of history.

Thirdly, Martin Luther King once famously said that he hoped one day that people wouldn't be identified by the colour of their skin, but by their character. Sadly, the current political posturing is obsessed by  people's skin colour, which is an insult to the memory of Dr King.

If we keep banging on about some brainless nutter posting a racist tweet, then all we're doing is giving them the oxygen of publicity - and this merely spurs them on to do it again. Ignore them, and eventually they will get bored and find something else to do.


Wow - I don’t even know where to start. In relation to your first point if you don’t want to be patronised stop pretending that you know about racial equality when you clearly haven’t got a fuck1ng clue
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Wow - I don’t even know where to start. In relation to your first point if you don’t want to be patronised stop pretending that you know about racial equality when you clearly haven’t got a fuck1ng clue


Because like all you left wing fascists, anyone that disagrees with your narrative they ''clearly haven't got a clue''
There is no other opinion other than a left wing opinion.

In regard to his first point he's spot on.
Just read this thread to see how dividing all this balderdash is.


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Someone disagreeing with you on the Internet isn’t fascism. Please understand this as a starting point.
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I mean lefty fascist is an oxymoron to some extent…


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I mean lefty fascist is an oxymoron to some extent…


You mean like National Socialist?



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I mean lefty fascist is an oxymoron to some extent…


No it isn't.

The jew-hating thugs from 'Momentum' who supported Jeremy Corbyn was facism at its most frightening.
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Because like all you left wing fascists, anyone that disagrees with your narrative they ''clearly haven't got a clue''
There is no other opinion other than a left wing opinion.

In regard to his first point he's spot on.
Just read this thread to see how dividing all this balderdash is.


In relation to the post the opinion expressed is that racial inequality pales into insignificance compared to the past and that black people protesting have no idea of their history. Not sure which part of that I can agree with to be honest. If racism is divisive then it’s the racists that need to change
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