Tweet from tondeur.

Just tweeted that when answering questions later on. IH said he would leave if the Fans wanted him too

Any fan that wants him gone is flipping mad.

He has made a lot of mistakes this season. But that doesn’t mean he should lose his job.

He gets it. Look at all the work outside of the actual training he did last season. Going into schools etc.

After this excrement is over. He is the perfect man for Grimsby.

He's lost the plot

Didn't take long for this club to grind him down did it?

It's a black hole for managers.

Quoted from 3610

Just tweeted that when answering questions later on. IH said he would leave if the Fans wanted him too

Any fan that wants him gone is flipping mad.

He has made a lot of mistakes this season. But that doesn’t mean he should lose his job.

He gets it. Look at all the work outside of the actual training he did last season. Going into schools etc.

After this excrement is over. He is the perfect man for Grimsby.

That could be read as an invitation to get people to ‘push’ him out of a difficult situation.

No manager will succeed until the cancer that is John Fenty finally relinquishes his control of the club.

Gutted if Ian Holloway has said that if the fans want him to leave he will.  I for one still want him here as I think plenty of others do as well.

He’s not going to lose his job. Think he needs a thicker skin if he’s going to act like that, especially considering the fan base is currently reduced to words on the internet!

He needs to appreciate people are sick of our current predicament. We’re not stupid and we know a bad performance when we see one - so all the “that was a fantastic performance” when we’ve not had a shot on goal doesn’t wash.

We’ve also had our fill of gutless performers, and being 4 down in 30 mins is not acceptable - the players didn’t even look arsed.

One thing we can all agree on is Fenty needs to write off his loans and walk, tomorrow if not tonight. Holloway wants to build something here and I - along with most others - would like to see him do so, but I don’t think it will happen with the Fenty albatross around our neck.

We’re heading fast towards the relegation zone. His recruitment hasn’t been good enough and it’s obvious that we’re heading for a relegation battle this season.

If that doesn’t tell you how badly this club is run then nothing will. Don’t forget that IH has only actually been in charge for three months at the beginning of the year and since the middle of August. For whatever reason, our squad is convincingly worse than the one he took over.

Tonight’s comment looks like an ‘I want out’ comment.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

If that doesn’t tell you how badly this club is run then nothing will. Don’t forget that IH has only actually been in charge for three months at the beginning of the year and since the middle of August. For whatever reason, our squad is convincingly worse than the one he took over.

Tonight’s comment looks like an ‘I want out’ comment.

To be fair we don’t know what the question was that caused that answer.

Seems clear to me he’s done. Can’t see him here after Christmas. We are lauded the appointment but it’s not working.

He's offered to quit already which isn't a good sign

Quoted from 3610

To be fair we don’t know what the question was that caused that answer.

Doesn’t really matter. That’s a pretty unequivocal answer.

That black cat has a lot to answer for.

Seriously though I really don't know what to think anymore, as has been said on here "It's the hope that kills you" or something like that.

I don't think I could face another stint in the tinpot again  

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Doesn’t really matter. That’s a pretty unequivocal answer.

True.

Hope it was said to get a reaction (another) from the players.

There are players here, not much better than those that go out on a Sunday for a kick about,

Its his squad, he has brought this rubbish in, and the vast majority of it is rubbish, sub standard. I cant believe that was his intention, but that situation may have been forced, but Jesus Christ he has scraped the barrel with this lot.

If he wants out, then go.

Quoted from Lincs Iron man

He's lost the plot

Wildig

Quoted from 3610

To be fair we don’t know what the question was that caused that answer.

My understanding is he was asked what he would say to the fans

JT's professional mask has slipped of late. Confusing one player with another, repeated jibes at Gibson's offsides (even when he wasn't), his readiness in a previous match to say 'two or three players aren't good enough for this level' etc. and putting words into the mouths of co commentators. Let Crofty and Bolland make their own mind up!

Ollie is clearly upset at this negative commentary and should not have tried to have it out today on air. Now, JT is signalling his wider discontent with the earlier tweet 'I remember when I used to like this job'. Good journalists don't become part of the story. Two bruised egos in a tiff.

Quoted from ginnywings

Didn't take long for this club to grind him down did it?

It's a black hole for managers.

Yep happens to all of them sooner or later. Looks like he half fancies throwing the towel in. And if anyone thinks that Paul Hurst will work for John Fenty again, they're living in dreamland. Fenty has ruined our football club. There is not one single factor in the past twenty years where we've taken a baby step forward on or off the pitch. Regression, torment for the manager, pain for the fans, regression, torment for the manager, pain for the fans ad nauseum.

We were told in no uncertain terms that anyone who wants to take the club over must provide evidence of funds for a couple of seasonsworth of downturn in fortunes. Of course this doesn't apply to the present incumbents who can't even reach in their pockets to keep four of our best players for a few months over the summer and imposed Covid clause contracts that only desperate bottom of the barrel players would sign. I can't see how even the most sycophantic supporters could make a positive case for this board of directors to be entrusted with the well being and progression of this club in the future. When is enough enough? Ollie shouldn't be offering to quit, but them upstairs, the ones that are most culpable for this mess (again), should have the good grace to fall on their own swords. They're just not very good at this football malarkey..

Ollie has made a few bad signings trusting the players who said they are fit and ready to play.

He will have learnt by that and won't make the same mistake again.

We don't know if the young non league players he signed will make it only time will tell.

He expects L2 players to understand what he wants and to carry his instructions out.

Well they are in L2 for a reason and I think he knows that now.

I still have faith in him to turn things around he has learnt a hard lesson and will be better for it.I

Let's see a settled side playing to their strengths and hope things change for the better I want to see Ollie here for many years to come but that will only happen if we improve.

I don't like to hear any manager say I will go if the fans want me to I would rather he said that display was not good enough and I will make things better I just need a little time.

I am fed up as the rest of you seeing our team play so bad but keep changing the manager when it starts to get difficult is not the answer stay and put things right Ollie and you will be loved by all.

Well maybe not all.  

Quoted from 3610

Just tweeted that when answering questions later on. IH said he would leave if the Fans wanted him too

Any fan that wants him gone is flipping mad.

He has made a lot of mistakes this season. But that doesn’t mean he should lose his job.

He gets it. Look at all the work outside of the actual training he did last season. Going into schools etc.

After this excrement is over. He is the perfect man for Grimsby.

I don't give a toss how many schools he visits it is what happens on the pitch that I am concerned about and that excrement today is not good enough and relegation form.

He needs to get it sorted, we don't look like scoring and we are leaking goals at the back.

If he doesn't then he will have to go, we cannot afford to drop out of the EFL again

Quoted from Croxton

JT's professional mask has slipped of late. Confusing one player with another, repeated jibes at Gibson's offsides (even when he wasn't), his readiness in a previous match to say 'two or three players aren't good enough for this level' etc. and putting words into the mouths of co commentators. Let Crofty and Bolland make their own mind up!

Ollie is clearly upset at this negative commentary and should not have tried to have it out today on air. Now, JT is signalling his wider discontent with the earlier tweet 'I remember when I used to like this job'. Good journalists don't become part of the story. Two bruised egos in a tiff.

Really?

In the main these past few seasons we have been excrement, what do you want commentators to say, ooooh that was a great performance we were unlucky with each of the 5 goals.

Why do you think all our manergerial appointments end badly? only one common denominator.

Quoted from friskneymariner

Why do you think all our manergerial appointments end badly? only one common denominator.

And why do the vast majority of our players when they leave never get another Football League club?

Quoted from arryarryarry

I don't give a toss how many schools he visits it is what happens on the pitch that I am concerned about and that excrement today is not good enough and relegation form.

He needs to get it sorted, we don't look like scoring and we are leaking goals at the back.

If he doesn't then he will have to go, we cannot afford to drop out of the EFL again

We have be crying out for a different approach from our board. He is also a director. He wants to build a club for the community. bring us together. Not this us verses them excrement that we have seen so much of. If we lose Ollie.... we lose any sort of chance of a change of thought at boardroom level.

he also got us playing good football at the same time!

Quoted from 3610

Just tweeted that when answering questions later on. FENTY said he would leave if the Fans wanted him too

That sounds better.

If we lose Ollie it’ll be a massive mistake......

He's never lasted more than 2 or 3 years anywhere recently and has already chalked up 30 games with us, about half his average. He's compeltely inexperienced at this level, most of his other jobs have been in or close to large population centres (London, Bristol, Leicestor, Blackpool) so Grimsby is quite different there too, with its own challenges. It always was an odd match.

Quoted from 3610

We have be crying out for a different approach from our board. He is also a director. He wants to build a club for the community. bring us together. Not this us verses them excrement that we have seen so much of. If we lose Ollie.... we lose any sort of chance of a change of thought at boardroom level.

he also got us playing good football at the same time!

You think the past few games have been good football?

And has it been confirmed he has invested in the club?

The question was


What would you say to the fans that have lost patience with you/ the team today?


Puts a slightly different spin on it.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Really?

In the main these past few seasons we have been excrement, what do you want commentators to say, ooooh that was a great performance we were unlucky with each of the 5 goals.

Hardly. Simply describe the action, invite comments, synopsis and insight from his co commentators and allow intelligent viewers like yourself to arrive at their own conclusions. To be clear, I prefer JT to Burns who is an offensive oaf. It wasn't the smartest entre to an interview was it? ' Olly, that was poor'.

For whatever reason, relations between Olly and JT have soured but both should rise above it. I find the latest version of Matt Dean to be better attuned and balanced, especially with PhilipDay. That may change after today, however after the furlough rumours!

Quoted from Croxton

Hardly. Simply describe the action, invite comments, synopsis and insight from his co commentators and allow intelligent viewers like yourself to arrive at their own conclusions. To be clear, I prefer JT to Burns who is an offensive oaf. It wasn't the smartest entre to an interview was it? ' Olly, that was poor'.

For whatever reason, relations between Olly and JT have soured but both should rise above it. I find the latest version of Matt Dean to be better attuned and balanced, especially with PhilipDay. That may change after today, however after the furlough rumours!

After a 5-0 defeat it's never going to be a smooth interview.

The furlough rumours were actually reported by the upthemariners website.

It’s not good i can see IH walking lets hope not

I'm actually quite offended he's said that. He talks at lengths about being the man who wants to take us places and he's proud to manage us, he's been the only manager who has complemented the club and fans upon joining, so it's very disheartening to hear him open to chucking the towel in already.

We won't get a better manager than Holloway and whoever we would get would hit similar issues.

As Town fans we are sick of the feeling of deja vu, we've long had an endless line of okay-ish managers bringing in okay-ish to average players, getting paggered by smaller, less ambitious but more solid clubs. Its as if this place is cursed because its always, new season, new players but same old excrement performances.

Holloway needs help... He needs to bring in coaches, and if he's being blocked in recruiting help then the club need to rethink their strategy. Ollie isn't a miracle worker, and his only help are two very young and inexperienced coaches.

The squad is huge, the last time we had a squad so big was 2009/10 under Newell and then Woods where we were signing new players every other week because they were all dross. We ended up going down that year and I'm not saying thats the case this year but we don't need a Premier League size squad in League Two. He needs to work with a settled unit, as his how are they meant to gel if they are playing next to different people every game.

There are numerous players here who I just don't seem to get their role or why they are here? Bilel Mohsni was a hugely exciting signing but he's either unfit or not in contention. This guy should with his calibre should be starting weekly, christ two years ago he made the preliminary Tunisia World Cup squad. Ira Jackson and Touray Sisay were spoken up hugely and just haven't had a sniff desipite other forwards such as Green consistently not coming up with the goods.Virgil Gomis on loan can't even get in the match day squad, Ludvig Ohman just seems to play one in four? Do we need him if that's the case? Morton, Bennett and Scannell are just a couple of other players in and out of the team. It just makes very little sense but I figure this constant changing in personnel can't be good for continuity.

Just a rambling old fans thoughts.

But Ollie if you ever read this forum. Don't go. You will just reset this process for us and we've been in groundhog day for years. Bolster
your coaching staff, get rid of the under performers, make some calls.

Would be bad news for us if he left. I’m confident he can improve us.

It’s clear the club made really bad decisions in dealing with Covid. TBF the board have been flipping clueless for years, any strategic decision and they make a intercourse up of it.  

IH made us better last season and I’m confident we’d have had our first top half finish back in the league if it hadn’t have ended prematurely.
I expect us to struggle till January and be much better after it.  

Covid was always going to hit the less rich clubs hard, our club just made it so much more difficult with the decisions we made. Because of that we have a large, weak and underprepared squad.

I saw Codalmighty tweet that “it doesn’t matter who the manager is” and usually I agree with them, but it is so important who the manager is because those people who’ve run the club for years are totally shite.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Would be bad news for us if he left. I’m confident he can improve us.

It’s clear the club made really bad decisions in dealing with Covid. TBF the board have been flipping clueless for years, any strategic decision and they make a intercourse up of it.  

IH made us better last season and I’m confident we’d have had our first top half finish back in the league if it hadn’t have ended prematurely.
I expect us to struggle till January and be much better after it.  

Covid was always going to hit the less rich clubs hard, our club just made it so much more difficult with the decisions we made. Because of that we have a large, weak and underprepared squad.

I saw Codalmighty tweet that “it doesn’t matter who the manager is” and usually I agree with them, but it is so important who the manager is because those people who’ve run the club for years are totally shite.

I agree with CA. It doesn’t take long for a vaguely intelligent manager to work out the board’s shortcomings.

But, if Holloway was as connected as he claims, surely he’d have known what our board were/are like and he wouldn’t have believed the bullshit in the first instance?

We have been here.many times in the past and only once in my lifetime of following town 65 years have we gone down to non league.

I don't think we will if Ollie stays but who knows if we end up with another no Mark manager.

Stay Ollie most of us have trust in you.

Quoted from Gainsbro_Mariner

I'm actually quite offended he's said that. He talks at lengths about being the man who wants to take us places and he's proud to manage us, he's been the only manager who has complemented the club and fans upon joining, so it's very disheartening to hear him open to chucking the towel in already.

We won't get a better manager than Holloway and whoever wwe would get would hit similar issues.

As Town fans we are sick of the feeling of deja by, we've long had an endless line of okay-ish managers bringing in okay-ish to average players, getting paggered by smaller, less ambitious but more solid clubs. Its as if this place is cursed because its always, new season, new players but same old excrement performances.

Holloway needs help... He needs to bring in coaches, and if he's being blocked in recruiting help then the club need to rethink their strategy. Ollie isn't a miracle worker, and his only help are two very young and inexperienced coaches.

The squad is huge, the last time we had a squad so big was 2009/10 under Newell and then Woods where we were signing new players every other week because they were all dross. We ended up going down that year and I'm not saying thats the case this year but we don't need a Premier League size squad in League Two. He needs to work with a settled unit, as his how are they meant to gel if they are playing next to different people every game.

There are numerous players here who I just don't seem to get their role or why they are here? Bilel Mohsni was a hugely exciting signing but he's either unfit or not in contention. This guy should with his calibre should be starting weekly, christ two years ago he made the preliminary Tunisia World Cup squad. Ira Jackson and Touray Sisay were spoken up hugely and just haven't had a sniff desipite other forwards such as Green consistently not coming up with the goods.Virgil Gomis on loan can't even get in the match day squad, Ludvig Ohman just seems to play one in four? Do we need him if that's the case? Morton, Bennett and Scannell are just a couple of other players in and out of the team. It just makes very little sense but I figure this constant changing in personnel can't be good for continuity.

Just a rambling old fans thoughts.

But Ollie if you ever read this forum. Don't go. You will just reset this process for us and we've been in groundhog day for years. Bolster
your coaching staff, get rid of the under performers, make some calls.

Keep up at the back there.

Mohsni and Ohman are no longer at the club.

Quoted from grimsby pete

We have been here.many times in the past and only once in my lifetime of following town 65 years have we gone down to non league.

I don't think we will if Ollie stays but who knows if we end up with another no Mark manager.

Stay Ollie most of us have trust in you.

I think your comment needs qualifying Pete.

Stay Ollie if you can make a difference. I don’t think it will end well if he doesn’t effect change in the boardroom.

Quoted from Gainsbro_Mariner

I'm actually quite offended he's said that. He talks at lengths about being the man who wants to take us places and he's proud to manage us, he's been the only manager who has complemented the club and fans upon joining, so it's very disheartening to hear him open to chucking the towel in already.

We won't get a better manager than Holloway and whoever we would get would hit similar issues.

As Town fans we are sick of the feeling of deja vu, we've long had an endless line of okay-ish managers bringing in okay-ish to average players, getting paggered by smaller, less ambitious but more solid clubs. Its as if this place is cursed because its always, new season, new players but same old excrement performances.

Holloway needs help... He needs to bring in coaches, and if he's being blocked in recruiting help then the club need to rethink their strategy. Ollie isn't a miracle worker, and his only help are two very young and inexperienced coaches.

The squad is huge, the last time we had a squad so big was 2009/10 under Newell and then Woods where we were signing new players every other week because they were all dross. We ended up going down that year and I'm not saying thats the case this year but we don't need a Premier League size squad in League Two. He needs to work with a settled unit, as his how are they meant to gel if they are playing next to different people every game.

There are numerous players here who I just don't seem to get their role or why they are here? Bilel Mohsni was a hugely exciting signing but he's either unfit or not in contention. This guy should with his calibre should be starting weekly, christ two years ago he made the preliminary Tunisia World Cup squad. Ira Jackson and Touray Sisay were spoken up hugely and just haven't had a sniff desipite other forwards such as Green consistently not coming up with the goods.Virgil Gomis on loan can't even get in the match day squad, Ludvig Ohman just seems to play one in four? Do we need him if that's the case? Morton, Bennett and Scannell are just a couple of other players in and out of the team. It just makes very little sense but I figure this constant changing in personnel can't be good for continuity.

Just a rambling old fans thoughts.

But Ollie if you ever read this forum. Don't go. You will just reset this process for us and we've been in groundhog day for years. Bolster
your coaching staff, get rid of the under performers, make some calls.

Moshni and Ohman have been sent packing.

If that response was after the official interview had finished ans was not to be broadcast then Tondeur  is clearly mischief making and has made his own mind up re whether or not Ollie should stay. If it is to be broadcast why not let it play its course and come out as part of the interview so a better judgement can be made re context of the question and and any follow up or preceding questions/answers.

Personally feel JT is well past is sell by date and his commentaries are just depressing even when we’re winning. Even a goal is met with no enthusiasm, not that we score many, and it’s just one long continuous drone. He should be put out to grass before Ollie but no doubt we will have to suffer him for a few more seasons yet.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

If that response was after the official interview had finished ans was not to be broadcast then Tondeur  is clearly mischief making and has made his own mind up re whether or not Ollie should stay. If it is to be broadcast why not let it play its course and come out as part of the interview so a better judgement can be made re context of the question and and any follow up or preceding questions/answers.

Personally feel JT is well past is sell by date and his commentaries are just depressing even when we’re winning. Even a goal is met with no enthusiasm, not that we score many, and it’s just one long continuous drone. He should be put out to grass before Ollie but no doubt we will have to suffer him for a few more seasons yet.

The radio interview goes first and when that finishes, other members of the press ask questions.

Pretty normal procedure.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

The radio interview goes first and when that finishes, other members of the press ask questions.

Pretty normal procedure.

Ask Jolley  

Quoted from ginnywings

Keep up at the back there.

Mohsni and Ohman are no longer at the club.

Wow, thanks for the heads up. Missed that. Sad on both counts. Really hoped Ohman would work out in the end and Mohsni would be a hit. Can't say I'm surprised though.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

The radio interview goes first and when that finishes, other members of the press ask questions.

Pretty normal procedure.

Which is my point. If this was part of the formal Q & A after the match it will subsequently be reported by the person asking the question hence no need for Tondeur to be tweeting about it other than to cause mischief.

One common thread I do see here is the one nobody else seems to have noticed, that being fallouts between Tondeur and previous managers Paul Hurst had fallouts on air with him, Jolly certainly had had his fill in his published rantings and now we have comments on social media attempting to undermine Ollie. I would suggest Mr. Tondeur needs pulling to one side. It's quite obvious that Ollie is struggling to get a settled side that works on a shoestring budget without commentators putting the boot in behind his back - it's easy to criticize when you can't do the job yourself. Given the current overwhelming bad conditions- Covid plus no matchday income- managing any football club is one big challenge. If Ollie does go, one thing is pretty certain and relegation is a huge possibility with yet another unknown in charge.At least Ollie has started to clear the decks of the "mistake" players.

Quoted from Stranger in the Park

One common thread I do see here is the one nobody else seems to have noticed, that being fallouts between Tondeur and previous managers Paul Hurst had fallouts on air with him, Jolly certainly had had his fill in his published rantings and now we have comments on social media attempting to undermine Ollie. I would suggest Mr. Tondeur needs pulling to one side. It's quite obvious that Ollie is struggling to get a settled side that works on a shoestring budget without commentators putting the boot in behind his back - it's easy to criticize when you can't do the job yourself. Given the current overwhelming bad conditions- Covid plus no matchday income- managing any football club is one big challenge. If Ollie does go, one thing is pretty certain and relegation is a huge possibility with yet another unknown in charge.At least Ollie has started to clear the decks of the "mistake" players.

I'm sorry but when we are excrement with whoever is manager I want an interviewer to ask the questions why. Which I is why I like Dave Burns after match interviews as he isn't scared at all of ruffling a few feathers of managers.

Quoted from Stranger in the Park

One common thread I do see here is the one nobody else seems to have noticed, that being fallouts between Tondeur and previous managers Paul Hurst had fallouts on air with him, Jolly certainly had had his fill in his published rantings and now we have comments on social media attempting to undermine Ollie. I would suggest Mr. Tondeur needs pulling to one side. It's quite obvious that Ollie is struggling to get a settled side that works on a shoestring budget without commentators putting the boot in behind his back - it's easy to criticize when you can't do the job yourself. Given the current overwhelming bad conditions- Covid plus no matchday income- managing any football club is one big challenge. If Ollie does go, one thing is pretty certain and relegation is a huge possibility with yet another unknown in charge.At least Ollie has started to clear the decks of the "mistake" players.

Christ Almighty, stop with the Covid excuses, it has affected all clubs.

A-holes like Tondeur and Burns are only out to get a reaction. We lose 5-0 and obviously Ollie is feeling shi'ite about it. The last thing Ollie then wants to hear is massive amounts of negativity from interviewers and journalists. Tondeur got the reaction he was after, but instead of leaving it at that, he starts with the snide tweets.

I can see in the not too distant future GTFC following Hulls example by not allowing BBC Radio Humberside to do commentary on their matches or give interviews to them

The fact we are excrement whoever is in charge means they (the journalists) are asking the wrong people the questions. Why don't they try and ask the board some probing questions because quite frankly we are rubbish year after year after year.

They should put Day and Fenty on the spot and ask them why this club cannot compete in D4. We can't even make it halfway up the table in a decade of trying.

I'd like to see them put under the same pressure the poor saps who end up managing town get put under.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

A-holes like Tondeur and Burns are only out to get a reaction. We lose 5-0 and obviously Ollie is feeling shi'ite about it. The last thing Ollie then wants to hear is massive amounts of negativity from interviewers and journalists. Tondeur got the reaction he was after, but instead of leaving it at that, he starts with the snide tweets.

I can see in the not too distant future GTFC following Hulls example by not allowing BBC Radio Humberside to do commentary on their matches or give interviews to them

For frigs sake, 3 wins in 16 games, dropping down the League and dumped out of the FA Cup by a team bottom of the Conference. We have just been stuffed 5-0 and that after a 45 minutes when Tranmere didn't bother much, what sort of questions do you want asking?

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

A-holes like Tondeur and Burns are only out to get a reaction. We lose 5-0 and obviously Ollie is feeling shi'ite about it. The last thing Ollie then wants to hear is massive amounts of negativity from interviewers and journalists. Tondeur got the reaction he was after, but instead of leaving it at that, he starts with the snide tweets.

I can see in the not too distant future GTFC following Hulls example by not allowing BBC Radio Humberside to do commentary on their matches or give interviews to them

Eh? Have you listened to it?

JT only suggested that every Club has had to deal with Covid, not just us.

Which is entirety true and not being negative at all in my opinion.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

A-holes like Tondeur and Burns are only out to get a reaction. We lose 5-0 and obviously Ollie is feeling shi'ite about it. The last thing Ollie then wants to hear is massive amounts of negativity from interviewers and journalists. Tondeur got the reaction he was after, but instead of leaving it at that, he starts with the snide tweets.

I can see in the not too distant future GTFC following Hulls example by not allowing BBC Radio Humberside to do commentary on their matches or give interviews to them

He’s not his f.ucking counsellor. Journalists sometimes ask difficult questions. It’s their job to hold people to account. And when we’ve just lost 5-0 it’s not unreasonable for them to do so.

To say Covid isn't a huge issue is to show a total denial of the financial catastrophe alone that it has caused worldwide. Millions of people thrown into unemployment, companies folding on a daily basis, and lots of football clubs unable to service their debts due to no income. I sincerely hope GTFC manages to ride the storm but how long would anyone last without income let alone improve on their plight. Yes the team are not performing as hoped but there is no magic bullet.

We need to give this guy the chance to fix his mess and sort things out. Our manager retention in the last few years has been abysmal and at some point don’t you have to realise there must be other issues elsewhere leading to this massive morale drain in management and players alike?!

The manager gets the club, he gets the fans, he understands community.. we were lucky to get that with Jolley as well but largely we won’t find that again I don’t believe. I really think we need to stick with Holloway and see out this season regardless.

I’m sick of being on the manager Merry go round so will JT and you pathetic excrement stirrers urine off and disappear  for a while and at least give IH a fair crack of the whip to get things sorted without your snide remarks.  

Quoted from oochiad

I’m sick of being on the manager Merry go round so will JT and you pathetic excrement stirrers urine off and disappear  for a while and at least give IH a fair crack of the whip to get things sorted without your snide remarks.  

Get a flipping grip. This is a forum, we have just been stuffed 5-0 by a team that couldn't buy a win a few weeks ago. people have a right to comment on how crap we are.

And may I refer you to a previous comment I made recently, we stuck with Neil Woods and look where that got us.

Fenty has had his day all it is is nightmares and tears, manager after manager and now the best of the lot comes along and its in turmoil already, typical of town. Ian see this as a project and said each one of those players where his project, which 31 players is a lot to try and turn into gold. I for one would be absolutely gutted and ready to throw in the towel on town if ian went, although I think these players are out there depth the manager isn't,hes proven and knows his onions, unfortunately on a shoe string budget and during a pandemic its hit us badly. Its always us fans who get hurt, with the same old bullshit, as frustrating as this season is and as poor the squad is they aren't good enough for what IH wants them to do. Stick by the man and lets take this season on the chin, lets see what next season brings, and hope in lords faith that someone buys the flipping club out and let us start fresh with the best credible manager in lower leagues. Keep the faith and ffs keep holloway here. GYTID.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Christ Almighty, stop with the Covid excuses, it has affected all clubs.

Don’t you know it’s only having an effect in DN35 and DN31 postcodes?

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

A-holes like Tondeur and Burns are only out to get a reaction. We lose 5-0 and obviously Ollie is feeling shi'ite about it. The last thing Ollie then wants to hear is massive amounts of negativity from interviewers and journalists. Tondeur got the reaction he was after, but instead of leaving it at that, he starts with the snide tweets.

I can see in the not too distant future GTFC following Hulls example by not allowing BBC Radio Humberside to do commentary on their matches or give interviews to them

Yes let’s ban people who ask difficult questions. Clearly they’re saboteurs!

Let’s all organise a big parade in honour of Uncle John, our glorious leader.

Quoted from Stranger in the Park

To say Covid isn't a huge issue is to show a total denial of the financial catastrophe alone that it has caused worldwide. Millions of people thrown into unemployment, companies folding on a daily basis, and lots of football clubs unable to service their debts due to no income. I sincerely hope GTFC manages to ride the storm but how long would anyone last without income let alone improve on their plight. Yes the team are not performing as hoped but there is no magic bullet.

Millions of people thrown into unemployment, 50,000 dead. Thousands of businesses down the pan. And all of them in NE Lincs.

Nothing happening elsewhere.

I think those wringing their hands at JTs questions are laughable - he is a  very meek and mild interviewer, if Ollie or anyone else can't stand up to his perfectly reasonable and placid questioning they need to rethink being in the pressure cooker of football league management. When burnsy asked JT against hull whether it was a relegation battle season for town JT was desperate to sit on the fence and not say anything and was rightly called out by burnsy to have an opinion. JT strives to be very diplomatic but come on some of his questions 'but covid has effected everyone', and about the constant chopping and changing are simply indisputable facts, they can't be argued with. It's not controversial to point these out (or it shouldn't be) and ask for the club's response (and Ollie is the responsible representative of the club). It what lots of people are asking on here, if he didn't ask those sort of basic questions he would really need firing for not doing his job.

I like burnsy and his questioning of hull - says it as he sees it. Organisations that try to avoid questioning and examining of performance are not going to be the ones most likely to improve.

Quoted from Tommy

Eh? Have you listened to it?

JT only suggested that every Club has had to deal with Covid, not just us.

Which is entirety true and not being negative at all in my opinion.

Its not just this game is it? It's every single match he has to have a dig at whoever is Captain of the ship.

Hursty didn't like his attitude. Slade didn't. Jolley didn't. Ollie doesn't. More than anything our club needs support, not kicking when it's down.

It's a tough one isn't it.  I feel for him.  He has passion and he loves Grimsby but isn't it his to motivate the players. Most of 'em don;t seem to be bothered. (except Pollack, Clifton and Edwards).  A lot of them seem to be spoiled brats to be honest. And where is the super experienced, can play in many different positions Moshni? The way I see it, is that he's a freeloader.  Even if he's injured he should be making some impact.  IH needs to work out a formation and stick to it.  Not change the team to much, Macca needs to relinquish the armband and IH needs to tell him, if his team is under pressure, the long ball isn't a bad idea. We need to practice set pieces - get the ball whipped into the danger area and have men in the box to attack it. Not those crappy floated balls that even if you do connect, it's hard to get some power behind the ball

For a late saturday night thread ,after a few beers and a shiite heavy defeat it's been v intelligent,restrained and well argued thread.
Shows the fishy at it's best
FWIW I think he should stay. I get the impression that ,if you are being negative  ,the penny has dropped. I think over the last couple of weeks hes given them a chance and they have let him down. Holloway is not stupid and hes committed an awful lot to us.
The cull is real and its borne out of a very experienced manager who's realised hes made big mistake.
He will never admit it but his initial strategy was wrong. We are not bottom and out of sight so hes taking the opportunity to 'reset' us.
I can easily see the doubters arguments but I dont think hes a Buckley marl3 as he had us playing some great stuff to the back end of last season. I think hes committed,  he knows hes copulated up and desperately wants to turn it round.
Selling pollock in january could be the key.i feckin hope so coz I cant see anyone else who could do a better job with all the constraints surrounding gtfc

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Its not just this game is it? It's every single match he has to have a dig at whoever is Captain of the ship.

Hursty didn't like his attitude. Slade didn't. Jolley didn't. Ollie doesn't. More than anything our club needs support, not kicking when it's down.

That's because when the going gets tough they don't like tough questions and they couldn't handle it and it's not as if JT was that tough with them especially Jolley who I understand was very unliked by some of the GTFC staff and not just players because he could dish it out but couldn't take it.

“If they want to come round my house and tell me to go home, I’ll stop selling it and buying one here. I don’t believe that’s the case. I will fight and die for these people, but if that’s what they want, they won’t have to ask me. That’s as honest as I can ever get.

IH quote. Not quite the bombshell it was built up to be is it...... funny that....

Quoted from Mikey_345

“If they want to come round my house and tell me to go home, I’ll stop selling it and buying one here. I don’t believe that’s the case. I will fight and die for these people, but if that’s what they want, they won’t have to ask me. That’s as honest as I can ever get.

IH quote. Not quite the bombshell it was built up to be is it...... funny that....

I thought his house was sold now?

Quoted from Mikey_345

“If they want to come round my house and tell me to go home, I’ll stop selling it and buying one here. I don’t believe that’s the case. I will fight and die for these people, but if that’s what they want, they won’t have to ask me. That’s as honest as I can ever get.

IH quote. Not quite the bombshell it was built up to be is it...... funny that....

I don’t believe fans want him to leave either. I believe the fans want him to change the way the club is run. I’m afraid that if he can’t see the problem by now, he’s not looking in the right direction.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I don’t believe fans want him to leave either. I believe the fans want him to change the way the club is run. I’m afraid that if he can’t see the problem by now, he’s not looking in the right direction.

One thing he's made very clear is that he likes the way the club is run. I'm sure he wants to do lots of things to make the club more enticing to get better players here, but he likes that we don't try and spend beyond our means and gamble on success, that if it doesn't happen puts the club's future at risk.

Unfortunately, it seems almost every other club decided to carry on as normal this season and push the boat out hoping that some form of bail out will come. My only hope is that it comes before the end of next month, so we're in a good position to strengthen considering our low expenditure so far.

Quoted from 3610

Just tweeted that when answering questions later on. IH said he would leave if the Fans wanted him too

So where exactly was IH supposed to have said this, because I listened to the after match interview and he certainly did NOT say it there.

Quoted from pen penfras

One thing he's made very clear is that he likes the way the club is run. I'm sure he wants to do lots of things to make the club more enticing to get better players here, but he likes that we don't try and spend beyond our means and gamble on success, that if it doesn't happen puts the club's future at risk.

Unfortunately, it seems almost every other club decided to carry on as normal this season and push the boat out hoping that some form of bail out will come. My only hope is that it comes before the end of next month, so we're in a good position to strengthen considering our low expenditure so far.

If Grimsby Town FC’s ambition is to wallow around in the lower reaches of League 2, hoping, and I quote, for ‘a bit of football fortune’, then it’s badly run.

Even Boris and his clandestine mates don’t have to account to this lack of professionalism. It is about time we detached from RH, we don’t even have GTFC commentators on live EFL games, instead we have this inept show. I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve been watching and the commentary goes live to Hull City games, even at full time the shift is straight to them. Do Hull City fans get match updates on Town, I doubt it.

I’m sure Tondeur is in breach of his professional BBC code with the sideshows he creates on social media. It is not his job to hold the manager to account, it is the Boards and I expect this to happen next week.

How are other teams 'pushing the boat out', given there is a salary cap in place this season?

I get that there is a certain amount of balancing to be done, given that teams already had contracts in place prior to it's introduction, but wasn't the idea that the cap was a leveller and something we as a club very much pushed for?

I'm sure there are other areas we can improve on apart from the squad, namely analysts, coaches and this new scout/recruitment manager we have at the club now. There have been suggestions in the past from previous incumbents about the lack of an off field structure commensurate with the modern day game.

IH has said many times that the club is very well run and about as efficient as it's possible to be. We have to believe he believes that, or I imagine he would be making veiled digs to the contrary, as most managers would  under scrutiny from the press and the fans.

I can only assume (maybe wrongly) that the targets he wanted didn't materialise for one reason or another and I think that is what he is referring to when he bangs on about covid. The clause we felt was needed to be inserted in contract talks meant we could only attract players who were keen to come and make a name for themselves, not the established pros needed to to able to compete with other clubs at the top end of the league. They could go elsewhere and get what they wanted. There is also the fact that players we wanted to keep were allowed to leave because of it too. Ollies plans well and truly scuppered with not a lot of time to get a squad in place.

I've no idea where we go from here. I assume we have targets we are lining up, but they will mainly be ones for Jan and the summer, so we will have to limp through until then with what we have. The release of Ohman and Mohsni will doubtless free up some cash for replacements and maybe there is a free agent or two somewhere out there we can coax along to the club. May even have someone in the pipeline already.

I've always seen us as a long term project with IH and it's not got off to the best of starts this season, but we were starting to look the real deal when when covid curtailed us after the great win at Scunny. He must be given time to get us back to those levels, because I cannot see us attracting anyone as committed to the cause as he seems to be.

Yesterday was a disaster, plain and simple, but before that game, we were actually quite well placed in the form table. Even now we are still above Bradford and Harrogate in said table. Bradford have way more resources than we do, and Harrogate were being lauded for their style of play and results not so long back. Things can change quickly.

Anyway, this post went on longer than I intended, but the gist of it is that I think we would be mad to make a change now, not that I think it's going to happen. This is the crazy world of football though, so nothing would surprise me.

Quoted from 28195

Even Boris and his clandestine mates don’t have to account to this lack of professionalism. It is about time we detached from RH, we don’t even have GTFC commentators on live EFL games, instead we have this inept show. I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve been watching and the commentary goes live to Hull City games, even at full time the shift is straight to them. Do Hull City fans get match updates on Town, I doubt it.

I’m sure Tondeur is in breach of his professional BBC code with the sideshows he creates on social media. It is not his job to hold the manager to account, it is the Boards and I expect this to happen next week.

It literally is his job.

Quoted from 28195

I’m sure Tondeur is in breach of his professional BBC code with the sideshows he creates on social media. It is not his job to hold the manager to account, it is the Boards and I expect this to happen next week.

Hysterical garbage. No idea how Tondeur’s coming in for any criticism here, is it too much to ask for a manager to go through a season without launching a tirade against Radio Humberside?

He's looking for an excuse to go,

'it's the fans fault, I really liked it there but they didn't love me so I had no choice'.

and I thought he was someone who would stick it out whatever

Quoted from Stranger in the Park

.At least Ollie has started to clear the decks of the "mistake" players.

He signed most of the buggers!

Quoted from Ipswin

He's looking for an excuse to go,

'it's the fans fault, I really liked it there but they didn't love me so I had no choice'.

and I thought he was someone who would stick it out whatever

Not for the first time I disagree with your opinion. Interviews after heavy defeats will always get emotional and spikey and personally I had no problems with JT’s questions but I do object as stated in a previous post about his Twitter comments later in the evening.

Anyway the reason I disagree relates to Ollie’s interview on Friday when he referred to plans not only for January but next season as well with regard player recruitment. This interview was given when Ollie was not steamed up, embarrassed and no doubt f....ing annoyed about a performance that had only ended half an hour before.

I just see no value in rolling the managerial dice yet again. In previous posts I acknowledge Ollie has got his recruitment wrong, something I believe he privately accepts, but I don’t expect him to slate those players in public and expect we will know what he feels as players leave. I do think he was probably naive on the difficulty that exists in getting players to join Grimsby and I think this was not helped by the pandemic and our clubs approach to player contracts.

Let’s not forget he has not been here for 12 months yet and five of those were spent twiddling thumbs and planning for a variety of scenarios that the club could face because of the pandemic. Hopefully, he is now much wiser, and as a consequence player recruitment will improve. Whoever is in charge wholesale changes are required and despite yesterday’s result I personally want Ollie to be in charge of that. Just over a year ago Lincoln were conceding six at home to Oxford and their league position shows much can change in a short period of time if you trust your Manager.

I agree with others that we should keep Holloway. He’s made mistakes but it’s still early doors, though there is more chance of us going down than up the way it’s looking. He recognises mistakes have been made and is trying to do something about them. And we are certainly not going to change our finances for the better if we switch managers again.

That said, he should have just kept his trap shut apart from a brief apology and said ‘right you’ll have to excuse me, we’ve got a lot of work to do to turn things around on Tuesday’. End of interview. He certainly shouldn’t be rising to fair questioning.

PS and stop making stupid excuses about Covid!

As for criticisms of Tondeur.....the man is doing what he’s supposed to do.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Just over a year ago Lincoln were conceding six at home to Oxford and their league position shows much can change in a short period of time if you trust your Manager.

The Lincoln board invested a six-figure fee in September, on top of a massive share issue to the fans, described as the biggest round of investment seen since the current Chief Exec had been at the club.

Where are our board?

This will no doubt be an unpopular view but.......People talk about Tondeur like he’s a local treasure & part of the fabric of GTFC when in essence he’s a local radio football commentator who has often proved he can’t ask challenging questions and shrinks when confronted with any push back from a manager.

I detest Burns but he can be like a dog with a bone and Mike White has a good skill of asking open questions, with Tondeur you could get away with answering yes or no to most of his.


Holloway did a good job of diverting attention away from what was an abject performance based upon a poor team selection and failure on his part to respond quickly when they where pretty much walking through us.

There was nobody in our mid field yesterday who can win the ball and give it to the likes of Edwards. The shape was completely wrong and didn’t set up to put any of their defenders under pressure the lad they had playing on the left of their back 3 needed to be pulled around a bit and run at 4-3-3 is a waste of time with this set of players.

The players look paralysed by fear, short on confidence and unsure of what they are meant to be doing. They did things yesterday that you’d expect 7th tier players to do. The Saturday/Tuesday rotational selection approach would always be difficult at this level and with such poor quality.

There is so much fundamentally wrong but the managers post match guile and experience has got us all talking about an interview rather than a team that currently looks like relegation fodder.

Tranmere stitched us up yesterday Holloway did that to Tondeur.

Thought that all managers nowadays had passed all these different badges, and I’m sure part of the training is how to deal with the press, also over the last 20 years we have had one successful season,and in all honesty all that was, was winning a playoff final to get out off the conference, so all the last few managers will have been answering more tricky questions after defeats then wins, because after a 5-0 win, and I struggle to remember one, the questions to the manager are not going to be critical. So Mr Holloway, use your press training along with your coaching training and get us out off this hole!!!

Here is the full interview JT was referring to  to put things in to context

“If they want to come round my house and tell me to go home, I’ll stop selling it and buying one here.

“I don’t believe that’s the case. I will fight and die for these people, but if that’s what they want, they won’t have to ask me. That’s as honest as I can ever get.

“All those unhappy people, just come and tell me, it’s not a problem. If it’s all the Grimsby fans, then it isn’t a quibble, I’ll go. No problem if that’s what you want.

“I want to stay, I want to work, I want to get this right. I’ve made a mistake today by getting smashed, and I hated every minute of it, but I still want to do it.

“I still want to build a team, and I believe I will. At the minute, it isn’t anything like it, is it?

“That’s life. For me, let’s get it out in the open, if you want to do a fans’ forum we’ll do it, we’ll talk, not a problem, let’s get it out there, and I want some support.

“We deserve some support, because our fans do support us, and they do support me. That’s a fact.

“However many you read about and you hear, if it’s all of them, great, no problem, or if it’s just the moany, whingey ones, I do apologise, but that wasn’t good enough for me either by the way.

“I’m still sticking with this because football is so fickle it’s unreal. It’s nowhere near good enough, absolutely diabolical, worst little period I’ve had, but let’s fight back and let’s go and change some things and see if we can’t get better than that.

“It isn’t hard. Anything’s going to better than that, isn’t it?


“Well done to them by the way. Well done to their manager, who hasn’t even got that as a job yet. He’s a caretaker manager, so something was wrong here a few weeks ago, and football’s a real, short time isn’t it?

“We’re far too inexperienced in my opinion, and I brought these people, and that’s where we are, particularly up front.
We’re crying out for a James Vaughan who got hold of it, we’re crying out for a (James) Hanson who gets hold of it. That’ll help everything won’t it?

“I’m stood there and I’m going to be shot at aren’t I? I’ve got my head over the pulpit. You could say I’m rattled, who wouldn’t be after letting in 14 in four games. It’s absolutely horrific.

“Did I expect it? Not in a million years. Is it good enough? Not in a million years, so blame me, not a problem.”

Quoted from Rob_in_Grimsby

Here is the full interview JT was referring to  to put things in to context

“If they want to come round my house and tell me to go home, I’ll stop selling it and buying one here.

“I don’t believe that’s the case. I will fight and die for these people, but if that’s what they want, they won’t have to ask me. That’s as honest as I can ever get.

“All those unhappy people, just come and tell me, it’s not a problem. If it’s all the Grimsby fans, then it isn’t a quibble, I’ll go. No problem if that’s what you want.

“I want to stay, I want to work, I want to get this right. I’ve made a mistake today by getting smashed, and I hated every minute of it, but I still want to do it.

“I still want to build a team, and I believe I will. At the minute, it isn’t anything like it, is it?

“That’s life. For me, let’s get it out in the open, if you want to do a fans’ forum we’ll do it, we’ll talk, not a problem, let’s get it out there, and I want some support.

“We deserve some support, because our fans do support us, and they do support me. That’s a fact.

“However many you read about and you hear, if it’s all of them, great, no problem, or if it’s just the moany, whingey ones, I do apologise, but that wasn’t good enough for me either by the way.

“I’m still sticking with this because football is so fickle it’s unreal. It’s nowhere near good enough, absolutely diabolical, worst little period I’ve had, but let’s fight back and let’s go and change some things and see if we can’t get better than that.

“It isn’t hard. Anything’s going to better than that, isn’t it?


“Well done to them by the way. Well done to their manager, who hasn’t even got that as a job yet. He’s a caretaker manager, so something was wrong here a few weeks ago, and football’s a real, short time isn’t it?

“We’re far too inexperienced in my opinion, and I brought these people, and that’s where we are, particularly up front.
We’re crying out for a James Vaughan who got hold of it, we’re crying out for a (James) Hanson who gets hold of it. That’ll help everything won’t it?

“I’m stood there and I’m going to be shot at aren’t I? I’ve got my head over the pulpit. You could say I’m rattled, who wouldn’t be after letting in 14 in four games. It’s absolutely horrific.

“Did I expect it? Not in a million years. Is it good enough? Not in a million years, so blame me, not a problem.”

Town supporters are no different to any others, happy when we win grumble when we lose, it will have been the same at every club Holloway has managed.

Reading between the lines as much as a football manager does and he’s admitted he’s got it wrong. The back me or bin me mindset is an odd one but I’d suggest it’s more theatre than fact as he’s savvy enough to know he can please some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time.

Quoted from Rob_in_Grimsby

Here is the full interview JT was referring to  to put things in to context

“If they want to come round my house and tell me to go home, I’ll stop selling it and buying one here.

“I don’t believe that’s the case. I will fight and die for these people, but if that’s what they want, they won’t have to ask me. That’s as honest as I can ever get.

“All those unhappy people, just come and tell me, it’s not a problem. If it’s all the Grimsby fans, then it isn’t a quibble, I’ll go. No problem if that’s what you want.

“I want to stay, I want to work, I want to get this right. I’ve made a mistake today by getting smashed, and I hated every minute of it, but I still want to do it.

“I still want to build a team, and I believe I will. At the minute, it isn’t anything like it, is it?

“That’s life. For me, let’s get it out in the open, if you want to do a fans’ forum we’ll do it, we’ll talk, not a problem, let’s get it out there, and I want some support.

“We deserve some support, because our fans do support us, and they do support me. That’s a fact.

“However many you read about and you hear, if it’s all of them, great, no problem, or if it’s just the moany, whingey ones, I do apologise, but that wasn’t good enough for me either by the way.

“I’m still sticking with this because football is so fickle it’s unreal. It’s nowhere near good enough, absolutely diabolical, worst little period I’ve had, but let’s fight back and let’s go and change some things and see if we can’t get better than that.

“It isn’t hard. Anything’s going to better than that, isn’t it?


“Well done to them by the way. Well done to their manager, who hasn’t even got that as a job yet. He’s a caretaker manager, so something was wrong here a few weeks ago, and football’s a real, short time isn’t it?

“We’re far too inexperienced in my opinion, and I brought these people, and that’s where we are, particularly up front.
We’re crying out for a James Vaughan who got hold of it, we’re crying out for a (James) Hanson who gets hold of it. That’ll help everything won’t it?

“I’m stood there and I’m going to be shot at aren’t I? I’ve got my head over the pulpit. You could say I’m rattled, who wouldn’t be after letting in 14 in four games. It’s absolutely horrific.

“Did I expect it? Not in a million years. Is it good enough? Not in a million years, so blame me, not a problem.”

And from that, JT tweeted that IH was ready to quit? It’s JT who should be resigning, absolutely shocking journalism. Hang your head in shame JT. How he can call himself a Town fan is beyond me, shite stirring as usual.

Quoted from Tinymariner

And from that, JT tweeted that IH was ready to quit? It’s JT who should be resigning, absolutely shocking journalism. Hang your head in shame JT. How he can call himself a Town fan is beyond me, shite stirring as usual.

He tweeted to say that Ollie would quit if the fans wanted him to. That is something entirely different to what you have just said.

Quoted from Rob_in_Grimsby

Here is the full interview JT was referring to  to put things in to context

“If they want to come round my house and tell me to go home, I’ll stop selling it and buying one here.

“I don’t believe that’s the case. I will fight and die for these people, but if that’s what they want, they won’t have to ask me. That’s as honest as I can ever get.

“All those unhappy people, just come and tell me, it’s not a problem. If it’s all the Grimsby fans, then it isn’t a quibble, I’ll go. No problem if that’s what you want.

“I want to stay, I want to work, I want to get this right. I’ve made a mistake today by getting smashed, and I hated every minute of it, but I still want to do it.



“I still want to build a team, and I believe I will. At the minute, it isn’t anything like it, is it?

“That’s life. For me, let’s get it out in the open, if you want to do a fans’ forum we’ll do it, we’ll talk, not a problem, let’s get it out there, and I want some support.

“We deserve some support, because our fans do support us, and they do support me. That’s a fact.

“However many you read about and you hear, if it’s all of them, great, no problem, or if it’s just the moany, whingey ones, I do apologise, but that wasn’t good enough for me either by the way.

“I’m still sticking with this because football is so fickle it’s unreal. It’s nowhere near good enough, absolutely diabolical, worst little period I’ve had, but let’s fight back and let’s go and change some things and see if we can’t get better than that.

“It isn’t hard. Anything’s going to better than that, isn’t it?


“Well done to them by the way. Well done to their manager, who hasn’t even got that as a job yet. He’s a caretaker manager, so something was wrong here a few weeks ago, and football’s a real, short time isn’t it?

“We’re far too inexperienced in my opinion, and I brought these people, and that’s where we are, particularly up front.
We’re crying out for a James Vaughan who got hold of it, we’re crying out for a (James) Hanson who gets hold of it. That’ll help everything won’t it?

“I’m stood there and I’m going to be shot at aren’t I? I’ve got my head over the pulpit. You could say I’m rattled, who wouldn’t be after letting in 14 in four games. It’s absolutely horrific.

“Did I expect it? Not in a million years. Is it good enough? Not in a million years, so blame me, not a problem.”

If that is the full quote JT needs to have a long look at himself. Most of the BBC is full of biased unprofessional reporting and this is yet another example. If we can’t have professional football reporting I don’t want any thank you.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

He tweeted to say that Ollie would quit if the fans wanted him to. That is something entirely different to what you have just said.

So JT tweeted that IH was willing/ready to quit? Thought so!

I mean perhaps Holloway is looking for a get out. Perhaps he realises he was hoodwinked the club and his own hyperbole is now catching him out.

The club hasn’t moved forward, isn’t well run as he claims and lacks any ambition for him to truly turn us around and make us in to something at least half decent?

Or may be Holloway is just using some weird reverse psychology and the whole thing has been taken out of any sort of context?

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Not for the first time I disagree with your opinion. Interviews after heavy defeats will always get emotional and spikey and personally I had no problems with JT’s questions but I do object as stated in a previous post about his Twitter comments later in the evening.

Anyway the reason I disagree relates to Ollie’s interview on Friday when he referred to plans not only for January but next season as well with regard player recruitment. This interview was given when Ollie was not steamed up, embarrassed and no doubt f....ing annoyed about a performance that had only ended half an hour before.

I just see no value in rolling the managerial dice yet again. In previous posts I acknowledge Ollie has got his recruitment wrong, something I believe he privately accepts, but I don’t expect him to slate those players in public and expect we will know what he feels as players leave. I do think he was probably naive on the difficulty that exists in getting players to join Grimsby and I think this was not helped by the pandemic and our clubs approach to player contracts.

Let’s not forget he has not been here for 12 months yet and five of those were spent twiddling thumbs and planning for a variety of scenarios that the club could face because of the pandemic. Hopefully, he is now much wiser, and as a consequence player recruitment will improve. Whoever is in charge wholesale changes are required and despite yesterday’s result I personally want Ollie to be in charge of that. Just over a year ago Lincoln were conceding six at home to Oxford and their league position shows much can change in a short period of time if you trust your Manager.

I am not advocating Holloway should leave or stay for that matter I am past caring frankly. The avalanche of players desperate to play for him was total balderdash (apart from Billy Clarke who I suspect just wanted a job for a season) and he has signed a load of players not capable of playing to his system (or he is not capable of putting his system in place) He arrived based on past glories to a wonderful welcome from thousands of hopeful fans starved of success.

As for fans blaming Fenty btw please remember Holloway knew EXACTLY what the postion and Fenty's approach was before he started (he had to go Dutch on the fish and chip welcome lunch probably)

We are not likely to recruit anyone with a bigger name (if that counts for anything) or more experienced and knowledgeable so we may as well stick with him for better or worse but I am not sure he will stick it out and any criticism from the fans (quite justifiably) or RH would be a tailor made excuse to quit

Sadly I am not convinced he is going to turn things around and I don't have the blind belief some appear to have. I would be delighted to be proved wrong as I want to see GTFC progress up the league(s) as much as the next man but it appears many would be satisfied if we finished one place above Scunny (lets hope they dont end up 24th!)