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The Old Codger
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We have been here.many times in the past and only once in my lifetime of following town 65 years have we gone down to non league.

I don't think we will if Ollie stays but who knows if we end up with another no Mark manager.

Stay Ollie most of us have trust in you.


I think your comment needs qualifying Pete.

Stay Ollie if you can make a difference. I don’t think it will end well if he doesn’t effect change in the boardroom.
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I'm actually quite offended he's said that. He talks at lengths about being the man who wants to take us places and he's proud to manage us, he's been the only manager who has complemented the club and fans upon joining, so it's very disheartening to hear him open to chucking the towel in already.

We won't get a better manager than Holloway and whoever we would get would hit similar issues.

As Town fans we are sick of the feeling of deja vu, we've long had an endless line of okay-ish managers bringing in okay-ish to average players, getting paggered by smaller, less ambitious but more solid clubs. Its as if this place is cursed because its always, new season, new players but same old excrement performances.

Holloway needs help... He needs to bring in coaches, and if he's being blocked in recruiting help then the club need to rethink their strategy. Ollie isn't a miracle worker, and his only help are two very young and inexperienced coaches.

The squad is huge, the last time we had a squad so big was 2009/10 under Newell and then Woods where we were signing new players every other week because they were all dross. We ended up going down that year and I'm not saying thats the case this year but we don't need a Premier League size squad in League Two. He needs to work with a settled unit, as his how are they meant to gel if they are playing next to different people every game.

There are numerous players here who I just don't seem to get their role or why they are here? Bilel Mohsni was a hugely exciting signing but he's either unfit or not in contention. This guy should with his calibre should be starting weekly, christ two years ago he made the preliminary Tunisia World Cup squad. Ira Jackson and Touray Sisay were spoken up hugely and just haven't had a sniff desipite other forwards such as Green consistently not coming up with the goods.Virgil Gomis on loan can't even get in the match day squad, Ludvig Ohman just seems to play one in four? Do we need him if that's the case? Morton, Bennett and Scannell are just a couple of other players in and out of the team. It just makes very little sense but I figure this constant changing in personnel can't be good for continuity.

Just a rambling old fans thoughts.

But Ollie if you ever read this forum. Don't go. You will just reset this process for us and we've been in groundhog day for years. Bolster
your coaching staff, get rid of the under performers, make some calls.



Moshni and Ohman have been sent packing.
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November 21, 2020, 10:26pm
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If that response was after the official interview had finished ans was not to be broadcast then Tondeur  is clearly mischief making and has made his own mind up re whether or not Ollie should stay. If it is to be broadcast why not let it play its course and come out as part of the interview so a better judgement can be made re context of the question and and any follow up or preceding questions/answers.

Personally feel JT is well past is sell by date and his commentaries are just depressing even when we’re winning. Even a goal is met with no enthusiasm, not that we score many, and it’s just one long continuous drone. He should be put out to grass before Ollie but no doubt we will have to suffer him for a few more seasons yet.
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Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56
If that response was after the official interview had finished ans was not to be broadcast then Tondeur  is clearly mischief making and has made his own mind up re whether or not Ollie should stay. If it is to be broadcast why not let it play its course and come out as part of the interview so a better judgement can be made re context of the question and and any follow up or preceding questions/answers.

Personally feel JT is well past is sell by date and his commentaries are just depressing even when we’re winning. Even a goal is met with no enthusiasm, not that we score many, and it’s just one long continuous drone. He should be put out to grass before Ollie but no doubt we will have to suffer him for a few more seasons yet.


The radio interview goes first and when that finishes, other members of the press ask questions.

Pretty normal procedure.
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The radio interview goes first and when that finishes, other members of the press ask questions.

Pretty normal procedure.

Ask Jolley  



Sometimes it is the people no one imagines anything of who do the things that no-one can imagine
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Keep up at the back there.

Mohsni and Ohman are no longer at the club.


Wow, thanks for the heads up. Missed that. Sad on both counts. Really hoped Ohman would work out in the end and Mohsni would be a hit. Can't say I'm surprised though.


Tony Gallimore nicked my Pint and my sausage roll
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The radio interview goes first and when that finishes, other members of the press ask questions.

Pretty normal procedure.


Which is my point. If this was part of the formal Q & A after the match it will subsequently be reported by the person asking the question hence no need for Tondeur to be tweeting about it other than to cause mischief.
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One common thread I do see here is the one nobody else seems to have noticed, that being fallouts between Tondeur and previous managers Paul Hurst had fallouts on air with him, Jolly certainly had had his fill in his published rantings and now we have comments on social media attempting to undermine Ollie. I would suggest Mr. Tondeur needs pulling to one side. It's quite obvious that Ollie is struggling to get a settled side that works on a shoestring budget without commentators putting the boot in behind his back - it's easy to criticize when you can't do the job yourself. Given the current overwhelming bad conditions- Covid plus no matchday income- managing any football club is one big challenge. If Ollie does go, one thing is pretty certain and relegation is a huge possibility with yet another unknown in charge.At least Ollie has started to clear the decks of the "mistake" players.
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One common thread I do see here is the one nobody else seems to have noticed, that being fallouts between Tondeur and previous managers Paul Hurst had fallouts on air with him, Jolly certainly had had his fill in his published rantings and now we have comments on social media attempting to undermine Ollie. I would suggest Mr. Tondeur needs pulling to one side. It's quite obvious that Ollie is struggling to get a settled side that works on a shoestring budget without commentators putting the boot in behind his back - it's easy to criticize when you can't do the job yourself. Given the current overwhelming bad conditions- Covid plus no matchday income- managing any football club is one big challenge. If Ollie does go, one thing is pretty certain and relegation is a huge possibility with yet another unknown in charge.At least Ollie has started to clear the decks of the "mistake" players.


I'm sorry but when we are excrement with whoever is manager I want an interviewer to ask the questions why. Which I is why I like Dave Burns after match interviews as he isn't scared at all of ruffling a few feathers of managers.
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One common thread I do see here is the one nobody else seems to have noticed, that being fallouts between Tondeur and previous managers Paul Hurst had fallouts on air with him, Jolly certainly had had his fill in his published rantings and now we have comments on social media attempting to undermine Ollie. I would suggest Mr. Tondeur needs pulling to one side. It's quite obvious that Ollie is struggling to get a settled side that works on a shoestring budget without commentators putting the boot in behind his back - it's easy to criticize when you can't do the job yourself. Given the current overwhelming bad conditions- Covid plus no matchday income- managing any football club is one big challenge. If Ollie does go, one thing is pretty certain and relegation is a huge possibility with yet another unknown in charge.At least Ollie has started to clear the decks of the "mistake" players.


Christ Almighty, stop with the Covid excuses, it has affected all clubs.
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