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salfordmariner
November 21, 2020, 9:40pm
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The question was


What would you say to the fans that have lost patience with you/ the team today?


Puts a slightly different spin on it.
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Really?

In the main these past few seasons we have been excrement, what do you want commentators to say, ooooh that was a great performance we were unlucky with each of the 5 goals.


Hardly. Simply describe the action, invite comments, synopsis and insight from his co commentators and allow intelligent viewers like yourself to arrive at their own conclusions. To be clear, I prefer JT to Burns who is an offensive oaf. It wasn't the smartest entre to an interview was it? ' Olly, that was poor'.

For whatever reason, relations between Olly and JT have soured but both should rise above it. I find the latest version of Matt Dean to be better attuned and balanced, especially with PhilipDay. That may change after today, however after the furlough rumours!
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Quoted from Croxton


Hardly. Simply describe the action, invite comments, synopsis and insight from his co commentators and allow intelligent viewers like yourself to arrive at their own conclusions. To be clear, I prefer JT to Burns who is an offensive oaf. It wasn't the smartest entre to an interview was it? ' Olly, that was poor'.

For whatever reason, relations between Olly and JT have soured but both should rise above it. I find the latest version of Matt Dean to be better attuned and balanced, especially with PhilipDay. That may change after today, however after the furlough rumours!


After a 5-0 defeat it's never going to be a smooth interview.

The furlough rumours were actually reported by the upthemariners website.
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It’s not good i can see IH walking lets hope not
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I'm actually quite offended he's said that. He talks at lengths about being the man who wants to take us places and he's proud to manage us, he's been the only manager who has complemented the club and fans upon joining, so it's very disheartening to hear him open to chucking the towel in already.

We won't get a better manager than Holloway and whoever we would get would hit similar issues.

As Town fans we are sick of the feeling of deja vu, we've long had an endless line of okay-ish managers bringing in okay-ish to average players, getting paggered by smaller, less ambitious but more solid clubs. Its as if this place is cursed because its always, new season, new players but same old excrement performances.

Holloway needs help... He needs to bring in coaches, and if he's being blocked in recruiting help then the club need to rethink their strategy. Ollie isn't a miracle worker, and his only help are two very young and inexperienced coaches.

The squad is huge, the last time we had a squad so big was 2009/10 under Newell and then Woods where we were signing new players every other week because they were all dross. We ended up going down that year and I'm not saying thats the case this year but we don't need a Premier League size squad in League Two. He needs to work with a settled unit, as his how are they meant to gel if they are playing next to different people every game.

There are numerous players here who I just don't seem to get their role or why they are here? Bilel Mohsni was a hugely exciting signing but he's either unfit or not in contention. This guy should with his calibre should be starting weekly, christ two years ago he made the preliminary Tunisia World Cup squad. Ira Jackson and Touray Sisay were spoken up hugely and just haven't had a sniff desipite other forwards such as Green consistently not coming up with the goods.Virgil Gomis on loan can't even get in the match day squad, Ludvig Ohman just seems to play one in four? Do we need him if that's the case? Morton, Bennett and Scannell are just a couple of other players in and out of the team. It just makes very little sense but I figure this constant changing in personnel can't be good for continuity.

Just a rambling old fans thoughts.

But Ollie if you ever read this forum. Don't go. You will just reset this process for us and we've been in groundhog day for years. Bolster
your coaching staff, get rid of the under performers, make some calls.



Tony Gallimore nicked my Pint and my sausage roll
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Would be bad news for us if he left. I’m confident he can improve us.

It’s clear the club made really bad decisions in dealing with Covid. TBF the board have been flipping clueless for years, any strategic decision and they make a intercourse up of it.  

IH made us better last season and I’m confident we’d have had our first top half finish back in the league if it hadn’t have ended prematurely.
I expect us to struggle till January and be much better after it.  

Covid was always going to hit the less rich clubs hard, our club just made it so much more difficult with the decisions we made. Because of that we have a large, weak and underprepared squad.

I saw Codalmighty tweet that “it doesn’t matter who the manager is” and usually I agree with them, but it is so important who the manager is because those people who’ve run the club for years are totally shite.
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Quoted from headingly_mariner
Would be bad news for us if he left. I’m confident he can improve us.

It’s clear the club made really bad decisions in dealing with Covid. TBF the board have been flipping clueless for years, any strategic decision and they make a intercourse up of it.  

IH made us better last season and I’m confident we’d have had our first top half finish back in the league if it hadn’t have ended prematurely.
I expect us to struggle till January and be much better after it.  

Covid was always going to hit the less rich clubs hard, our club just made it so much more difficult with the decisions we made. Because of that we have a large, weak and underprepared squad.

I saw Codalmighty tweet that “it doesn’t matter who the manager is” and usually I agree with them, but it is so important who the manager is because those people who’ve run the club for years are totally shite.


I agree with CA. It doesn’t take long for a vaguely intelligent manager to work out the board’s shortcomings.
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November 21, 2020, 10:19pm

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But, if Holloway was as connected as he claims, surely he’d have known what our board were/are like and he wouldn’t have believed the bullshit in the first instance?


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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We have been here.many times in the past and only once in my lifetime of following town 65 years have we gone down to non league.

I don't think we will if Ollie stays but who knows if we end up with another no Mark manager.

Stay Ollie most of us have trust in you.


                           Over 33 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner.
                           65 Years following the Town
                            Ian Holloway's  Black and White Army.
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Quoted from Gainsbro_Mariner
I'm actually quite offended he's said that. He talks at lengths about being the man who wants to take us places and he's proud to manage us, he's been the only manager who has complemented the club and fans upon joining, so it's very disheartening to hear him open to chucking the towel in already.

We won't get a better manager than Holloway and whoever wwe would get would hit similar issues.

As Town fans we are sick of the feeling of deja by, we've long had an endless line of okay-ish managers bringing in okay-ish to average players, getting paggered by smaller, less ambitious but more solid clubs. Its as if this place is cursed because its always, new season, new players but same old excrement performances.

Holloway needs help... He needs to bring in coaches, and if he's being blocked in recruiting help then the club need to rethink their strategy. Ollie isn't a miracle worker, and his only help are two very young and inexperienced coaches.

The squad is huge, the last time we had a squad so big was 2009/10 under Newell and then Woods where we were signing new players every other week because they were all dross. We ended up going down that year and I'm not saying thats the case this year but we don't need a Premier League size squad in League Two. He needs to work with a settled unit, as his how are they meant to gel if they are playing next to different people every game.

There are numerous players here who I just don't seem to get their role or why they are here? Bilel Mohsni was a hugely exciting signing but he's either unfit or not in contention. This guy should with his calibre should be starting weekly, christ two years ago he made the preliminary Tunisia World Cup squad. Ira Jackson and Touray Sisay were spoken up hugely and just haven't had a sniff desipite other forwards such as Green consistently not coming up with the goods.Virgil Gomis on loan can't even get in the match day squad, Ludvig Ohman just seems to play one in four? Do we need him if that's the case? Morton, Bennett and Scannell are just a couple of other players in and out of the team. It just makes very little sense but I figure this constant changing in personnel can't be good for continuity.

Just a rambling old fans thoughts.

But Ollie if you ever read this forum. Don't go. You will just reset this process for us and we've been in groundhog day for years. Bolster
your coaching staff, get rid of the under performers, make some calls.



Keep up at the back there.

Mohsni and Ohman are no longer at the club.
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