Coronavirus

Quoted from DB

As I said I'm not red or blue so you guy's pick spots of each other and the country is in a mess. I only got involved because of this:-

I would much prefer to know exactly how many people have died of covid and only covid with no other underlying illness's.

Simple question which has not had a simple answer. Many varying opinions, red herrings, govt guides etc, but no answer so what is this simple figure? It's not 100,000 but could be half, or a quarter, or 10% etc.

You’re asking  a question you know there is no answer to for the varying reasons people have outlined already.

Perhaps a more pertinent question to ask would be ‘how many people have died needlessly during this pandemic in this country  because of the incompetence of our prime minister and his government?’

The answer? Far too many.

No amount of whataboutery will disguise it and the wonderfully thin argument of ‘anyone would have made the mistakes’ will simply not cut it.

To reduce this to red versus blue is unhelpful too, because it actually distracts people from the real issue that Boris Johnson the man is not up to the job he’s paid to do.

Quoted from Sandford1981

Perhaps a more pertinent question to ask would be ‘how many people have died needlessly during this pandemic in this country  because of the incompetence of our prime minister and his government?’

The answer? Far too many.

No amount of whataboutery will disguise it and the wonderfully thin argument of ‘anyone would have made the mistakes’ will simply not cut it.

To reduce this to red versus blue is unhelpful too, because it actually distracts people from the real issue that Boris Johnson the man is not up to the job he’s paid to do.

I agree with you and unfortunately at the time of the election it was all about Brexit so Boris got in. Covid was around the corner and nobody saw it coming; or did they and didn't want to tell. If we had known about covid I don't think Boris would have stood any chance of winning.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

The best thing is to view any official figures with a healthy dose of scepticism. There are far too many variables to ever get an accurate guide - a comprehensive breakdown of covid deaths around the world provided by another poster contained the caveat that different countries have different methods of counting a covid death. Quite.

Each country is unique. There are downsides to the way we live life normally in the west and this is one of them

Classic diversion tactic once again.

Quoted from Stadium

Classic diversion tactic once again.

To be honest stadium, I have absolutely no idea what the fook you are on about. Are you going through some sort of high powered debating chamber in your head? Are you using some buzz words you have read in the Guardian? Mine is just an opinion; I am not at all what you seem to think I am, I am just expressing my personal opinion as I see fit at the time. I have no agenda, no axe to grind no diversion tactics or any other bloody tactics I am just a normal member of the public having his say on his local team's message board.

It just seems too much of a burden for some posters to know that I have political and life views that have been forged over a lifetime of work, in commerce and charitable sectors and see the world differently to you.

It is not a crime to view things differently. What I really detest in this world is people who daydream about a perfect world but who have no practical solutions as to how to achieve it.  

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

To be honest stadium, I have absolutely no idea what the fook you are on about.

Oh I'm sure you do.

Quoted from Stadium

Oh I'm sure you do.

Oh no I dont.

Seems a reasonable conservative chap.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55839252

One to go up against the wall.

Quoted from ska face

Healthy scepticism is fine, if you have an idea what you’re talking about.

Sticking your head in the sand, denying what’s obvious in this weaselly, quisling way just because you can’t bare to take any responsibility for your part in this social cleansing is not fine.

People would rather watch over 100,000 of their fellow citizens die, the economy tank and untold damage done to future generations than admit they picked the wrong horse. Not even that, they daren’t tell the horse to get its act together. A nation of cowards and bullies awaiting their instructions from the billionaires that run the place.

Hilarious! If only we’d voted for step toe the world would’ve been a bed of roses😂 socialists bless them, their hearts are in the right place but their heads are away with the fairy’s.

Quoted from Humbercod

Hilarious! If only we’d voted for step toe the world would’ve been a bed of roses😂 socialists bless them, their hearts are in the right place but their heads are away with the fairy’s.

A bit like NewZealand eh, they have really struggled dealing with COVID with a socialist PM