Coronavirus

Quoted from Humbercod

A cynic would say they’re combining the figures 😉

A cynic might. So might an idiot though.

Quoted from DB

Life expectancy should not be a reason to jump a queue.

Of course it should. If you've got limited resources available, you use them to the best benefit possible. That's the whole point of triage. If you've got two similar cases with patients in their 40s/50s and 80s with no other co-morbidities, you'll always go to treat the younger patient as they are many, many times more likely to survive. It's a excrement job for doctors to have to decide who might live and who might possibly survive, but it's the only way the patients can be treated when infections are so rife.

Quoted from LH

A cynic might. So might an idiot though.

A government obeying dog certainly wouldn’t.

Matt Hancock on the Andrew Marr show said we’ll still have social distancing next winter, so no conference away days to look forward to.........

Quoted from 28195

Matt Hancock on the Andrew Marr show said we’ll still have social distancing next winter, so no conference away days to look forward to.........

Not a surprise for anyone rational but when you have Boris spouting rubbish as recently as last week saying, ‘he can see the lluminated sign that marks the end of the journey’, there will be a lot of disappointed Britons

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

Not a surprise for anyone rational but when you have Boris spouting rubbish as recently as last week saying, ‘he can see the lluminated sign that marks the end of the journey’, there will be a lot of disappointed Britons

He's said this nearly every week since last May, we'll be eating out to help out again before you know it

Quoted from Maringer

Of course it should. If you've got limited resources available, you use them to the best benefit possible. That's the whole point of triage. If you've got two similar cases with patients in their 40s/50s and 80s with no other co-morbidities, you'll always go to treat the younger patient as they are many, many times more likely to survive. It's a excrement job for doctors to have to decide who might live and who might possibly survive, but it's the only way the patients can be treated when infections are so rife.

Resources are only limited when politicians tell us they are.  When politicians want to do something they have infinite resources. What you are saying is that if you take care of yourself, meet the covid instructions, and are elderly then if you get covid there no room for you in intensive care.

If you are young and ignore covid instruction, mix with others don't wear masks and get covid. Then its ok to carry on, you've probably not paid into the NHS and if you have then not as much as the old ones. Your going to jump the queue and be first for IT.

I agree there has to be triage but age is not an answer. Somewhere along the line people, both young and old, have to take responsibility for there actions and health

Resources are only limited when we’re told they are is it?

Resources like...labour? Ventilators? Oxygen capacity within hospitals?

Maybe young people are catching Covid because they’re being forced into work. The govt aren’t providing adequate support to encourage people to stay at home, nor is there a legal requirement for employers to make workplaces safe. It’s a result of their ideology, they daren’t lift the curtain and show that the govt can actually, if it wanted to, support people who aren’t forced to sell their labour at the lowest price. Sick pay in the U.K. is almost the lowest in Europe. People are dying on the altar of neoliberalism.

ENJOY!

Quoted from DB

I agree there has to be triage but age is not an answer. Somewhere along the line people, both young and old, have to take responsibility for there actions and health

All else being equal, age is absolutely the main factor with this virus. If you manage to keep a previously healthy 80 year old alive using a ventilator for a couple of months, their health will be shattered and they are unlikely to make much of a recovery afterwards. You could use the same resources to keep many younger people alive and living with a much better prognosis. We don't have nearly enough medical staff, nearly enough CPAP/ventilators or nearly enough ICU beds to cope with demand with the pandemic running wild as it is. Hard choices for the doctors and the only real option is to treat the youngest as they are most likely to both survive and recover. Not to mention that they are likely to be discharged more quickly than older patients to free up a bed.

Quoted from Maringer

All else being equal, age is absolutely the main factor with this virus. If you manage to keep a previously healthy 80 year old alive using a ventilator for a couple of months, their health will be shattered and they are unlikely to make much of a recovery afterwards. You could use the same resources to keep many younger people alive and living with a much better prognosis. We don't have nearly enough medical staff, nearly enough CPAP/ventilators or nearly enough ICU beds to cope with demand with the pandemic running wild as it is. Hard choices for the doctors and the only real option is to treat the youngest as they are most likely to both survive and recover. Not to mention that they are likely to be discharged more quickly than older patients to free up a bed.

Have a look in the GT of "locals" driving in there cars to park on the prom to exercise!. They could have walk and what appears to be many not 2 meters apart. I didn't see a police presence to stop people passing on the virus so others are not killed. Down to man power you may say, but they have resources to send several PC's in riot gear to look at 2 yobs on a bungalow roof. The 2 yobs are hardly going to kill anyone, unlike covid KILLER carriers on the sea front. No comparison really is there.