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forza ivano
March 15, 2020, 12:11pm

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Another view.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne.....yll-kill-people.html

I am sure there are differing opinions within health community and there will be others with a political agenda as well.


I think he's actually agreeing with what the professor said
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A lot of people (mostly elderly) will die from the virus. A lot of people (mostly elderly) will die because of the sheer amount of resources taken up by treating those with the virus.

If this 4 month quarantine is brought in, I hope they've given considerable thought to how those with chronic conditions can still receive some treatment.
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Does anybody know how many people have died from the normal flu in the same period  this has been running ?

Sorry just found out myself the total so far this winter is a staggering  231 in the UK.

So next question why is this virus being treated more deadly than the flu ?


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Does anybody know how many people have died from the normal flu in the same period  this has been running ?

Sorry just found out myself the total so far this winter is a staggering  231 in the UK.

So next question why is this virus being treated more deadly than the flu ?


Because it’s brand new and no-one knows how to beat it or even seemingly contain it. Hence no vaccine. We still don’t know if beating it once is going to be able to beat it a second or third time.
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Does anybody know how many people have died from the normal flu in the same period  this has been running ?

Sorry just found out myself the total so far this winter is a staggering  231 in the UK.

So next question why is this virus being treated more deadly than the flu ?


Mortality rate for the flu is usually about 0.1%. In Italy, this is currently running at 6% (though it will actually be lower than this due to asymptomatic/mild cases which haven't been counted).
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There are lots of people with poor hygiene habits which they had long before this pandemic.
It's ok trying to get the message out in a short time scale,should be driven home all the time.
The amount of males who walk straight out of a toilet without washing their hands properly is amazing & disgusting.


I made this point and was red crossed. No wonder these kind of diseases /viruses /illnesses spread so easily if Joe Public has such poor hygiene habits.


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Because it’s brand new and no-one knows how to beat it or even seemingly contain it. Hence no vaccine. We still don’t know if beating it once is going to be able to beat it a second or third time.


If you look at it from the virus's point of view, it wants to pass its genes on. If it kills the host it also dies so most colds and flus are not quite bad enough to kill the host, if they were they would quickly fizzle out. But this coronavirus has a high level of virulence which means it spreads quickly, quickly enough that it can get away with a higher death rate than "normal".


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I mean...I’ve just given some actual examples of what the govt in Italy have done in reality. You can have another read if you like? It’s still there...

Mental how you’re happy for some toff to decide that your life isn’t worth living. Have some pride ffs.


The over-65s represented a huge part of Johnson's election landslide - do you honestly believe he'd be so stupid as to think the people who brought him victory aren't worth keeping alive?! And remember - he's being guided by scientific advice whereas you are being guided by grubby political point scoring.

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I went into the local Spar earlier and it was nearly empty of people, but one of the 3 people down my row, an elderly lady, a woman about 40 and her 11 yearish daughter, sneezed openly into the air 3 times.  


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I am fairly sure the people who died from the Black Death were not waiting for herd immunity. What a dozy comment.

Why are people moaning about schools not being shut and large crowd events not being stopped? Who is twisting their arms to go if they think it is wrong? People seem prepared to go out,  strip shelves and hoard but not to arrange to look after their kids! If I had school age kids and thought schools were dangerous for them, I wouldn’t be waiting for a ban, they would stay home and I’d be making arrangements to get them supervised. We have more personal responsibility than just easy sitting about trying to blame someone else. We have a big problem but we can do much to help ourselves.


Hard to say that closing schools would necessarily be the right thing. Kids are not vulnerable to this outbreak but they can be carriers, and word coming out of Italy is that by closing schools, parents have been getting elderly relatives to look after their kids while they're at work which has caused further contamination and more deaths amongst old people,

Conversely, kids being kept together at school build up their immunity and are probably therefore in the safest place.

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