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This Trump presser is something else .
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Have you heard about Eyam in Derbyshire during the Plague of the 17th century, Rancido? The disease was killing the villagers so the Rector self-isolated the village. No one allowed in or out. Any supplies of food had to be left at markers outside the village. No, of course, they had no medical knowledge of bacteria and 'witches' were blamed for bad events as agents of the devil, BUT the Rector's actions showed that he recognised that the Plague was transmitted from person to person somehow so he cut the village off from the outside world. In many ways that is similar to what is happening now with coronavirus. IMO of course.
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I just hope my lifetime lasts until next winter. I'm 68 with bowel liver and lung cancer and my wife has low immunity due to drugs she has to take for her conditions. Apart from a shopping trip before 8am today while it was quiet we're closing the door and sitting tight. Like Pete I don't want my grand daughters or my son round to see us Trouble is how long does one isolate for? I don't think we are anywhere near the peak so it could be Halloween before it's safe to emerge
I'm sorry to hear of your really bad health Swin. We've had our toos and fros on this forum, but stuff like you have to live with shows a whole different light. I really hope you keep well and we'll still be trolling each other 10 years from now. Best of luck!
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To compare the Black Death, a 14th century pandemic with a high mortality rate, to the present coronavirus is crass, asinine and shows a total lack of understanding of anything even remotely medical! Even the fact that even the basics of human medical functions were not understood then to the slightest degree seems to be lost on you. Even immunity to any illness in the 14th century was an unimaginable concept.
What is the difference? At the moment it is a disease without a vaccine or cure, you either live through it as Over 97% will or not. As back then isolation and hygiene was one of the few things that helped then, now we have breathing equipment equipment and intensive care but nowhere near enough. It may be have a lower mortality rate but it is the same. Unless we ban all travel and inward and outward in this globalised world herd immunity is almost a crazy concept
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Herd immunity will mean the survival of the fittest in a situation like this, I have repetitively in Italy who are saying anyone over 65 is now unlikely to be treated in some areas because of lack of capacity, as mariner1 says they have more intensive care beds than us, Their policy is to try and contain it this year and hope a vaccine is developed , ours seems to be carry on until enough are immune , a similar approach to the Black Death
I am fairly sure the people who died from the Black Death were not waiting for herd immunity. What a dozy comment. Why are people moaning about schools not being shut and large crowd events not being stopped? Who is twisting their arms to go if they think it is wrong? People seem prepared to go out, strip shelves and hoard but not to arrange to look after their kids! If I had school age kids and thought schools were dangerous for them, I wouldn’t be waiting for a ban, they would stay home and I’d be making arrangements to get them supervised. We have more personal responsibility than just easy sitting about trying to blame someone else. We have a big problem but we can do much to help ourselves.
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What is the difference? At the moment it is a disease without a vaccine or cure, you either live through it as Over 97% will or not. As back then isolation and hygiene was one of the few things that helped then, now we have breathing equipment equipment and intensive care but nowhere near enough. It may be have a lower mortality rate but it is the same. Unless we ban all travel and inward and outward in this globalised world herd immunity is almost a crazy concept
No doubt there was a fking Tory government during the Black Death then. 😉
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On a lighter note, the Sunday football papers always talk about what has already happened in matches.
Now instead they will have to talk about what matches might take place in the future - and when.
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Just wondering WTF Talksport are going to do for the forseeable future Not only no footy but no sport of any description really
It will no doubt be an endless, one programme after another, of news about which players / teams are infected and a hundred different ideas on how every competition you can think of is going to resume and finish its season (all the latter with absolutely no info whatsofuckingever)
That Scots twit at 10am whose name escapes me is going to be more unbearable than ever. At least Brazil can regale us all with how he did his back in the champagne tent at Cheltenham
Jim White. I’m with you on that one, Swin - shudder..... And stay well, ‘Swin, sorry to hear about your health issues.
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No doubt there was a fking Tory government during the Black Death then. 😉
The Tories were in charge then and their ancestors are in charge now, in 500 years their offspring will be still coming out of Eton to tell us what to do
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No doubt there was a fking Tory government during the Black Death then. 😉
There was a rumour Middle Ages Tories invented a global economy of rats infected with fleas that were trained to attack the plebs but actually it all began with the Romans and what they did for us you know, Magester Thatcherus.
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