Coronavirus

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I suspect the real reason we have this light touch approach is that we don’t have the law enforcement resources to impose a lockdown. 20000 police officers less than a decade ago.

Also heard a GP on the radio today who also does shifts at a Soton hospital. He has symptoms commensurate with Covid 19 and there aren’t the test kits available. The advice now is only ring 111 if you have been in contact with a confirmed case.

Make do and mend eh.

Agree.
Posted this earlier in the week:

Interesting thing today was that, more than once, we heard certain measures would not be taken for now because they didn't think that people would stand for it/endure it

So that says two things to me.
1) that the Nudgers have outshouted the scientists and
2) that HMG has no faith in its power to enforce anything.

Quoted from GrimExile

I’m not saying that Boris Johnson is right or wrong. What I am saying is that he or any other leader can only act on the advice of a qualified medical expert. They have no option.

Sack the qualified medical expert until you get the answer you want. That's what Trump does  

Quoted from GrimRob

Sack the qualified medical expert until you get the answer you want. That's what Trump does  

Nice one Rob!!

Here's what a Professor in something (not virology or epidemiology!) thinks the not-entirely revealed plan is to be:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1238518371651649538.html

Sounds logical - if it comes off. The problem is if any of their assumptions/calculations are incorrect, it is going to lead to a lot (and I mean A LOT) of extra deaths. I think it likely that this plan wouldn't have even been considered if it hadn't been for the fact that children seem to suffer very little from the virus.

I seriously hope that their plans/expectations are accurate enough and as few people will be lost as possible. Can't help but think that they are trying to be too clever for their own good, unfortunately.

The fact that we are rather less prepared for this sort of thing than many of our neighbours can't be ignored. The bed shortages are known, as are the staff shortages. The concern when looking at how we'll do in comparison to the far Eastern countries is that they had the experience of SARS and had the larger quantities of ICU beds with which to treat the most serious cases. Not a luxury we have so let's hope the plans to flatten the peak will have some effect.

Quoted from Maringer

Here's what a Professor in something (not virology or epidemiology!) thinks the not-entirely revealed plan is to be:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1238518371651649538.html

Sounds logical - if it comes off. The problem is if any of their assumptions/calculations are incorrect, it is going to lead to a lot (and I mean A LOT) of extra deaths. I think it likely that this plan wouldn't have even been considered if it hadn't been for the fact that children seem to suffer very little from the virus.

I seriously hope that their plans/expectations are accurate enough and as few people will be lost as possible. Can't help but think that they are trying to be too clever for their own good, unfortunately.

The fact that we are rather less prepared for this sort of thing than many of our neighbours can't be ignored. The bed shortages are known, as are the staff shortages. The concern when looking at how we'll do in comparison to the far Eastern countries is that they had the experience of SARS and had the larger quantities of ICU beds with which to treat the most serious cases. Not a luxury we have so let's hope the plans to flatten the peak will have some effect.

Add some numbers in here:

https://streamable.com/ll8i8

Quoted from Stadium

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/uk-quarantines-elderly-as-over-70s-told-stay-at-home

And that's the other part of the plan not mentioned before now. Not sure how my parents would take to house arrest for a third of a year, even if it was for their own benefit!

Quoted from Maringer

And that's the other part of the plan not mentioned before now. Not sure how my parents would take to house arrest for a third of a year, even if it was for their own benefit!

Well my wife and I have done that and if my wife survives this period it will have been worth it.

Can't see a lockdown in this country.

Because of  continuous cuts to the police and armed forces..... we haven't got the numbers to enforce it.

A lockdown is only really possible if you have one region which is a lot worse than anywhere else. Not sure we have any suitable hotspots. You can't lock down the whole country.