Coronavirus

Quoted from A Brace Of Tees

The over-65s represented a huge part of Johnson's election landslide - do you honestly believe he'd be so stupid as to think the people who brought him victory aren't worth keeping alive?! And remember - he's being guided by scientific advice whereas you are being guided by grubby political point scoring.

This govt have, quite openly, spent the last ten years creating the circumstances in which people from certain groups (predominantly the “economically inactive”) are more likely to die from preventable situations.

Believe me, there’s very little to be gained politically from arguing with some people on here 😂

Quoted from ska face

This govt have, quite openly, spent the last ten years creating the circumstances in which people from certain groups (predominantly the “economically inactive”) are more likely to die from preventable situations.

Believe me, there’s very little to be gained politically from arguing with some people on here 😂

Exactly! Especially like individuals like your who want to score political points from a natural disaster that could never have been 100% allowed for. At this present moment both Spain and Italy have experienced far more fatalities than we have but, in your eyes, the 21 (at the last count) fatalities that we have experienced in the UK are all down to one person, Boris Johnson! Grow up and except reality that whenever a pandemic strikes there will be fatalities regardless of whatever political party is in power or whatever contingencies plans are in place. You can seem to exist in some ideogical bubble whereby the only party you support has all the answers.

Quoted from A Brace Of Tees

Hard to say that closing schools would necessarily be the right thing. Kids are not vulnerable to this outbreak but they can be carriers, and word coming out of Italy is that by closing schools, parents have been getting elderly relatives to look after their kids while they're at work which has caused further contamination and more deaths amongst old people,

Conversely, kids being kept together at school build up their immunity and are probably therefore in the safest place.

Very interesting.

Quoted from rancido

Exactly! Especially like individuals like your who want to score political points from a natural disaster that could never have been 100% allowed for. At this present moment both Spain and Italy have experienced far more fatalities than we have but, in your eyes, the 21 (at the last count) fatalities that we have experienced in the UK are all down to one person, Boris Johnson! Grow up and except reality that whenever a pandemic strikes there will be fatalities regardless of whatever political party is in power or whatever contingencies plans are in place. You can seem to exist in some ideogical bubble whereby the only party you support has all the answers.

You’ll find the difficulty you have in ascribing arguments or statements to me is that what I have actually said is still there to read in this thread, and what you think I’ve said isn’t actually the case. The issue isn’t that one person is responsible for people dying, it’s that they’re telling people to do one thing without putting in the provisions for that to happen. Like I said about 20 pages back, how can people stay at home if they have to go to work to pay the bills? How is the health service expected to cope after being cut to the bone? It’s not about a party - I don’t even know what the Labour Party’s response is, I’m not that fussed - they’re not running the country.

Quoted from ska face

You’ll find the difficulty you have in ascribing arguments or statements to me is that what I have actually said is still there to read in this thread, and what you think I’ve said isn’t actually the case. The issue isn’t that one person is responsible for people dying, it’s that they’re telling people to do one thing without putting in the provisions for that to happen. Like I said about 20 pages back, how can people stay at home if they have to go to work to pay the bills? How is the health service expected to cope after being cut to the bone? It’s not about a party - I don’t even know what the Labour Party’s response is, I’m not that fussed - they’re not running the country.

Sadly this is the result of disasters. Now, contingency plans can't allow for every situation. Even if the NHS wasn't "cut to the bone" your words, it would still struggle with this pandemic. In an ideal world who would pay the shortfall when people can't work? Obviously revenue and taxes from those who can. But you  are entering the world of "diminishing returns" Those that can paying a disproportionate amount, eventually, for those that can't. At what's point do you want accept that there is not enough money to pay for all of this?

Utterly predictable. Unemployment figures at their lowest ever, but there’s no money. The economy supposedly going great fund for the last few years, but there’s no money. We can build 40 new hospitals, train 20,000 new nurses and 20,000 new police but there’s no money. You don’t even know what you’re supposed to be funding, but there’s no money?

Ever get the feeling you’ve been conned?

Quoted from ska face

Utterly predictable. Unemployment figures at their lowest ever, but there’s no money. The economy supposedly going great fund for the last few years, but there’s no money. We can build 40 new hospitals, train 20,000 new nurses and 20,000 new police but there’s no money. You don’t even know what you’re supposed to be funding, but there’s no money?

Ever get the feeling you’ve been conned?

Ever get the feeling that somebody has been brainwashed into a political idealogy?

Looks like you’ll be stuck in the house for the next 4 months, perhaps you could do some reading on disaster capitalism.

Quoted from ska face

Looks like you’ll be stuck in the house for the next 4 months, perhaps you could do some reading on disaster capitalism.

Or read some idealogical paper on Marxism! Tell me one  example of where a Marxist idealogy has been successful on this planet? Or indeed any other purely socialist ideology?

“Sick pay” isn’t Marxism 🤡