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codcheeky
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Government to announce u turn & ban large scale gatherings according to the daily telegraph.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/po.....n-makes-coronavirus/


urine up and Brewery come to mind
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The season shouldn’t be abandoned....

Prem have big squads so when they resume they can play back to back quite easily, it just might mean games on different days more often.

The lower league will have problems if this goes on but again there is no reason after a long rest and fitness tuning why L1 and L2 can’t play say 5 games in 14 days for a relatively short period.


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If I can hang on until the 60% 'herd' have had it will I a) have less chance of being infected and b) have a better chance given the lower numbers, of being hospitalised if needed?


It's both. The theory is that after you've had it, you can't catch it again. At least in the short term. That way the 60% that were exposed and survived can't catch it or pass it on, so the vulnerable people get far less exposure to the virus than if everybody mingles together immediately.

I suppose it could be contained if the whole world agreed to a 2 week shutdown, but there's absolutely no chance of that happening. Even if we did contain it, the way it spreads we'd likely have a repeat when people travel here from countries that don't take extreme measures to stop it. Herd immunity is the best answer for something that spreads this easily. I just hope people are sensible enough to actually self isolate and stay away from vulnerable people, but that actions of my in-laws makes me think there's a very blase attitude by a lot of people and they will just do what they want
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It's both. The theory is that after you've had it, you can't catch it again. At least in the short term. That way the 60% that were exposed and survived can't catch it or pass it on, so the vulnerable people get far less exposure to the virus than if everybody mingles together immediately.

I suppose it could be contained if the whole world agreed to a 2 week shutdown, but there's absolutely no chance of that happening. Even if we did contain it, the way it spreads we'd likely have a repeat when people travel here from countries that don't take extreme measures to stop it. Herd immunity is the best answer for something that spreads this easily. I just hope people are sensible enough to actually self isolate and stay away from vulnerable people, but that actions of my in-laws makes me think there's a very blase attitude by a lot of people and they will just do what they want


Can you give an example of any virus that this has worked for without a vaccine, the Government seems to think this strategy is worth the collateral damage of the old and vunerable dying in their droves. 1% of 40 million is 400,000 the death rate in Italy is around 3%
If the government are so sure of the strategy let’s see them be up front and present their model and forecasts.  At the moment we seem to beat odds with everyone else and people are losing faith in the advice
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Well, the WHO certainly thinks it's a gamble. The assumption that once you've had it, you become immune, is just that - an assumption.

For me, the fact that there haven't been any reported cases in N.E. Lincs indicates there aren't all that many around. If we had a nationwide lock down right away, could probably contain it to a few hundred cases in this area. Surely that would be better and would free up resources for elsewhere? If we have to shut down the economy for a couple of months, then so be it.

I'm not taking my kids to nursery next week on the assumption that they will change tack before long. Every day a locks own is delayed will cause thousands of additional cases nationwide.
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Several teachers and children in N.E. Lincs.are already in self isolation that I know of - so it is suddenly going to change here next week
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Utterly predictable attitude from a government led by a eugenicist and absolutely no thought paid to the poor fucckers in the NHS who will have to deal with tens if not hundreds of thousands of very ill people in a system already stretched to breaking point.

The entire govt should be lined up against a wall if a single person dies because of their inaction.
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Utterly predictable attitude from a government led by a eugenicist and absolutely no thought paid to the poor fucckers in the NHS who will have to deal with tens if not hundreds of thousands of very ill people in a system already stretched to breaking point.

The entire govt should be lined up against a wall if a single person dies because of their inaction.


What are you moaning about? What exactly is stopping anyone who does not agree with what the government says from sorting out their own child care to keep their kids off school and isolate the family by avoiding large crowds? You might run the risk of infecting granny but at least you will be doing what you think is right.




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Utterly predictable attitude from a government led by a eugenicist and absolutely no thought paid to the poor fucckers in the NHS who will have to deal with tens if not hundreds of thousands of very ill people in a system already stretched to breaking point.

The entire govt should be lined up against a wall if a single person dies because of their inaction.


A completely crass and predictable comment from this poster.


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What are you moaning about? What exactly is stopping anyone who does not agree with what the government says from sorting out their own child care to keep their kids off school and isolate the family by avoiding large crowds? You might run the risk of infecting granny but at least you will be doing what you think is right.




errr having to pay the bills and put food on the table? The fact that we have an economy majorly reliant on a services and insecure employment that is forcing people to work and businesses to stay open because there is no safety net. Italy have suspended mortgage payments and household bills - our government are allowing people to die unnecessarily on the altar of the market.

And like I said, the govt appear to think that encouraging tens of thousands of people to contract a disease which requires hospital treatment in a large proportion of cases will have no impact down the line. It’s like there’s an assumption that there’s endless resource to deal with whatever comes the way of the NHS. Wrong.

I suppose if your view is that every “granny” is a worthy death to save someone a few bob then maybe that’s why the country’s on its bottom.
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