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Your point being?



I suspect you know this Swin but I think SoC’s point was that you could point the accusatory finger regarding the departure of Bogle and Amond but there was no culpability involved in the loss of Nolan as he was going regardless and of Arnold as he cndajatl
Your use of the term ‘criminal’ seemed to be directed at all four
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I suspect you know this Swin but I think SoC’s point was that you could point the accusatory finger regarding the departure of Bogle and Amond but there was no culpability involved in the loss of Nolan as he was going regardless and of Arnold as he cndajatl
Your use of the term ‘criminal’ seemed to be directed at all four


I'm far from convinced every effort was made to keep Nolan after all a transfer to that 'big club' Chesterfield could only have been for the £££££ (it wasn't much of a step up in standard) also I think his contribution in the 18 games he played was totally underrated and unnoticed alongside that of Amond and Bogle

As far as Arnold is concerned he sure as intercourse 'could have done a better job at that level' than some of the duffers we had had since, in fact like some others I'm convinced the play off winning team was better as a unit than anything we have had since



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Nolan got a 3 year contract in League 1 out of it so it can't have been that unnoticed!


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Nolan got a 3 year contract in League 1 out of it so it can't have been that unnoticed!


I meant of course his contribution went unnoticed at BP (but of course you realised that)



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I'm far from convinced every effort was made to keep Nolan after all a transfer to that 'big club' Chesterfield could only have been for the £££££ (it wasn't much of a step up in standard) also I think his contribution in the 18 games he played was totally underrated and unnoticed alongside that of Amond and Bogle

As far as Arnold is concerned he sure as intercourse 'could have done a better job at that level' than some of the duffers we had had since, in fact like some others I'm convinced the play off winning team was better as a unit than anything we have had since

Quite possibly
However my comment was, in response to your question, to clarify the point SoC was making not to agree or disagree with the validity of his point



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There's a lot of re-writing of history going on here.

[I paraphrase] 'Bogle was inconsistent and made no contribution when what he tried didn't come off and his head went down'. Well maybe a bit, but the guy bagged 17 goals in the Conference and 20 in half a season in league 2. I don't remember people volunteering to put him on the bus, and would in reality be quite happy to have him back.

Probably the same wisearces (deliberate spelling mistake) who said Amond was a flat track bully who couldn't hack it at League 2.


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I just thought it strange Hurst decreed our promotion side cndajatl without them getting a chance to prove it or not and it was all ripped up after the great comeradery built up between players and fan's. I'm sure there must have been some sort of big bust up towards the end.
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Yeah but this all conquering Conference side absolutely fell over the line in the end.  In my opinion it wasn't even our best Conference side!

From front to back:

McKeown - still here.
Tait - Tempted away, probably got more money in the SPL
East - Dunno where he ended up.
Robertson - Retired and we upgraded when we got Danny Andrew
Toto - Wanted to move away
Pearson - Let's not go there
Gowling - Struggled to make the step up back into the league.
Arnold - Iconic player, but ha s since proven he couldn't do it above the Conference on a consistent basis.
Monkhouse - Miles off what we needed going into League Two
Clay - Anonymous for most of his final season here.
Disley - Stayed with us for another year as a bit part player.
Nolan - Head and shoulders above League Two - doesn't matter how hard we tried, he wasn't going to stay here.
Marshall - Ended up at Boston?
Pittman - Stayed in the Conference
Bogle - Sold him for big money
Amond - The one mistake we got wrong.

More or less universally there was an agreement that the side wasn't good enough as we wanted to move into League Two.  Dismantling that team was the right thing to do.  Unfortunately it then followed that Hurst had his worst period of recruitment when he looked for the vast majority of replacements.
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Aye, I thought the 14/15 side was the better team, but the 15/16 one did it when it mattered (yes I know, Ross Joyce etc)


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