Thoughts on Bignot?

Quoted from Stranger in the Park

I find all the talk about wingers strange as it seems pretty clear that Bignot does not favour that style of play at all otherwise he would be playing wide men. On the evidence so far this is alien to him and would sooner play a systems game that baffles everyone - including the players.

At the recent forum MB said that there are only three ways to play football ; down the wings, through the middle or over the middle and he wants his teams to be able to play all three, even within a game. On that basis he does want to use wingers but quite possibly he doesn't push that route at the moment because , apart from Tombola, we don't really have any decent wingers.

Is the system too complex, is that the reason we look disjointed?

Hopefully it will bed in over the remaining games and preseason and we can get out of the traps quickly next year.

Look at most top teams and you'll struggle to name a winger, most teams are based on a system similar to ours

We don't have the personnel to play FB and Winger partnerships up and down the flans at the moment as there is no credible left winger, I hope this changes next season and we see some options in the way we set up. The ability to get in behind teams is something that we have missed.  

The reason why most teams at this level play 442 is because the players haven't got the ability to play more advanced systems! Hence why 352 was abandoned pretty quickly by Bignot. A straightforward 442, with attacking wingers and supporting full backs is what most players feel comfortable with. That IMO is what Bignot should focus on next season!

Quoted from gtfc82

The reason why most teams at this level play 442 is because the players haven't got the ability to play more advanced systems! Hence why 352 was abandoned pretty quickly by Bignot. A straightforward 442, with attacking wingers and supporting full backs is what most players feel comfortable with. That IMO is what Bignot should focus on next season!

A straightforward 4-4-2 gets buried in this league because other teams play three, sometimes four central midfielders and cut down space. Attacking wingers are a rare commodity in any league and the best attacking wide players in the Prem tend to be full backs (Walker, Rose, Clyne, Alonso, Bertrand, Bellerin, Valencia, Coleman)

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Look at most top teams and you'll struggle to name a winger, most teams are based on a system similar to ours

There are wide players though. We don't have any with or pace other than bolarinwa. I can't imagine many other sides play 5 central midfielders in 5 of the 6 midfield and attacking positions.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

There are wide players though. We don't have any with or pace other than bolarinwa. I can't imagine many other sides play 5 central midfielders in 5 of the 6 midfield and attacking positions.

As I said, most wide players play in defensive positions.

I think we abandoned 3 - 5 -2 as none of the centre backs could effectively start play, possibly not their fault as it may have been due to the lack of movement in front of them. The system would not be that much of a discussion if we could pass and move to a reasonable level

Seems like another manager is having fun with formations

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9 hours ago camdenshrew said:
Hurst explained the reason he went with that formation was to match Bolton's set-up. I wouldn't expect to see it deployed again in the near future.
I hope not.  Picking our team to match the opposition was MMs great scheme. It didn't work then either.