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Artell??

Quoted from HelensburghMariner

To let Waterfall go before Glennon, Mullarkey or Rodgers was criminal in my opinion.
When I saw that Luke had departed a couple of days ago I was shocked and now think more of these sort of results will come thick and fast

Another relegation battle incoming

Agree with this. The idea that Luke Waterfall was the problem, given he’d barely played was a nonsense.

Quoted from pontoonlew

You know there’s been a rash reaction to a defeat when Michee Efete is dubbed as Cafu

He’s no Cafu, but he’s better than Mullarkey who is dogshit.

Checking back that is the fifth time in the last six games we have conceded game defining goals between 35 mins and half time.

Quoted from davmariner

He’s no Cafu, but he’s better than Mullarkey who is dogshit.

You’re better than Mullarkey mate.

At least Michee doesn’t get bullied

We should have made changes at half-time
If we'd left Rose and Cartwright on and subbed in Cockers for those other 9 kittens we would have got at least a point

They' should be made to play in skins next week. So many shite performances this season from most of them, they really don't deserve the shirt

Quoted from davmariner

Agree with this. The idea that Luke Waterfall was the problem, given he’d barely played was a nonsense.

I don't think he was 'the problem ', just not the answer. 4th choice who has 4 months remaining in his contract. Offered a couple of years elsewhere. I should imagine he pushed for the move.

Quoted from davmariner

Agree with this. The idea that Luke Waterfall was the problem, given he’d barely played was a nonsense.

Luke is loved here and rightly so, but less than a week ago, it was unanimous that he moves on. He's clearly a professional and a leader, but he's no longer up to league 2 football. If we play him, we have to sit deep, and if we sit deep, we have to score and hope we can cling on to a lead, something our team isn't capable of. We have to attack and score a few more, and even then it's a shaky cushion.

Petit said 1 out 1 in. We either sit with Maher or Rodgers as 1 and 2 and hope we avoid injuries or rolled the dice. We rolled them, but in trying to fix our defensive problems with Tharme, we expose our leadership weakness. If we did nothing, we'd still be here with a defensive and leadership problem...

I have to admit, I’m pretty dumbfounded this evening. Not because we lost a game, or played poorly; there’s nothing new about either of those things. But because this result, this performance, is just so fúcking typical of Town. And then I ask myself “why?”, and I’m down the rabbit hole.

We were relegated to this level in 2003. At that point, we had spent 37 of 45 seasons in which the English league pyramid comprised of four divisions, above that level - and none below it. We’ve since spent 13 seasons in League Two and 7 below it. In that time, we’ve finished in the top half of League Two twice - as many times as we’ve been relegated from it. And we seem to be giving it our best effort to complete an unwanted hat trick. Has anyone ever done that?

Whatever our history, despite record season ticket sales two seasons running and despite the seven figures made from last season’s incredible cup run, we still find ourselves unable to build a convincing side at this level. In the last 18 years, an entire childhood, the only time we’ve looked a capable outfit in the league has been in the Conference. Is that really our level? If it is, and we seem to have it keyed into our sat nav once again, you have to ask why, why, why that’s the fúcking case.

The F word will inevitably feature in any attempts at answers, and I’m certainly not about to leap to his defence. But the man himself was able to use the ITV Digital collapse as an excuse for way too long, and we have to be careful of letting history repeat itself. He’s been gone nearly 3 years, but can we truthfully say that what’s been served up on the pitch this season has been a positive departure from the Fenty era?

There’s no denying that this is a tough League Two this season, but that’s no excuse for looking like a pub team all too regularly. Back in the summer, virtually every measurable factor looked rosier than it had in at least 20 years. And yet we’re still shít. We’re still in a relegation battle. A relegation battle ffs. I can’t keep doing this.

I just can’t fathom it. It doesn’t seem to matter who we have in the boardroom, the dugout, or on the pitch, we seem simply unable to crack this level. League fúcking Two. Ffs.

Until today, I wasn’t really worried about relegation. But we’ve now won 1 game in our last 7, and have conceded 13 in our last 3. If we’re not already in one, we are a tailspin away from finding ourselves in serious, serious shít. It would be too dramatic and unfair to pin all of this on Artell, and I won’t, but 10 games in with a win ratio of 20%; it’s not unreasonable to suggest that needs to improve markedly if he wants to maintain a career in football management. Away at 10th place Accrington next Saturday, then home to the league leaders the following week, it’s gonna be bloody hard work improving on it in the short-term.

I’m fúcked off, I’m concerned, but more than anything else, I’m just absolutely bored to tears of being, at the very best, stinking League Two bottom feeders. As strongly as I feel we’re better than this, all of the contemporary evidence says we’re categorically not.

Quoted from Poojah

I have to admit, I’m pretty dumbfounded this evening. Not because we lost a game, or played poorly; there’s nothing new about either of those things. But because this result, this performance, is just so fúcking typical of Town. And then I ask myself “why?”, and I’m down the rabbit hole.

We were relegated to this level in 2003. At that point, we had spent 37 of 45 seasons in which the English league pyramid comprised of four divisions, above that level - and none below it. We’ve since spent 13 seasons in League Two and 7 below it. In that time, we’ve finished in the top half of League Two twice - as many times as we’ve been relegated from it. And we seem to be giving it our best effort to complete an unwanted hat trick. Has anyone ever done that?

Whatever our history, despite record season ticket sales two seasons running and despite the seven figures made from last season’s incredible cup run, we still find ourselves unable to build a convincing side at this level. In the last 18 years, an entire childhood, the only time we’ve looked a capable outfit in the league has been the Conference. Is that really our level? If it is, and we seem to have it keyed into our sat nav once again, you have to ask why, why, why that’s the fúcking case.

The F word will inevitably feature in any attempts at answers, and I’m certainly not about to leap to his defence. But the man himself was able to use the ITV Digital collapse for way too long, and we have to be careful of letting history repeat itself. He’s been gone nearly 3 years, but can we truthfully say that what’s been served up on the pitch this season has been a positive departure from the Fenty era?

There’s no denying that this is a tough League Two this season, but that’s no excuse for looking like a pub team all too regularly. Back in the summer, virtually every measurable factor looked rosier than it had in at least 20 years. And yet we’re still shít. We’re still in a relegation battle. A relegation battle ffs. I can’t keep doing this.

I just can’t fathom it. It doesn’t seem to matter who we have in the boardroom, the dugout, or on the pitch, we seem simply unable to crack this level. League fúcking Two. Ffs.

Until today, I wasn’t really worried about relegation. But we’ve now won 1 game in our last 7, and have conceded 13 in our last 3. If we’re not already in one, we are a tailspin away from finding ourselves in serious, serious shít. It would be too dramatic and unfair to pin all of this on Artell, and I won’t, but 10 games in with a win ratio of 20%; it’s not unreasonable to suggest that needs to improve markedly if he wants to maintain a career in football management. Away at 10th place Accrington next Saturday, then home to the league leaders the following week, it’s gonna be bloody hard work improving on it in the short-term.

I’m fúcked off, I’m concerned, but more than anything else, I’m just absolutely bored to tears of being, at the very best, stinking League Two bottom feeders. As strongly as I feel we’re better than this, all of the contemporary evidence says we’re categorically not.

We should be a lower end league 1 club minimum imo but in reality for whatever reason(s) we are what we are it's not ideal but we need to stay up otherwise it's 2 steps back again . Hope Artell has the minerals for a relegation battle because we are in 1 .