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Quoted from Corkyefes

I would say that mostly the reason they can attract better players is the location towards bigger cities...
Accrington is 50 mins from Manchester, Barrow train in Manchester, Harrogate lovely place to live and Morcambe close to the Lake District (and still only an hour from Manchester on the train - 1.5hrs drive).

The fact is that nobody wants to live in Grimsby, or the surrounding towns within an hours journey, with maybe Lincoln as the exception.

This means we need to spend more money and offer better contracts, which is something the owners simply wont do.
Will can tell that by the dire salaries offered for the various jobs around the club, which not suprisingly have a high turnover of staff.

I dont know the step forward, really don't, but I do feel that all the money we have recieved for the promotion, FA cup runs, players sold etc, has all been wasted.

What did concern me in the last fans forum, was even after all this money was put into the club, we was losing money still.
Why is this?

The ground & infrastructure cost's you would guess is the reason for losing money ; patching up BP isn't/wont come cheap and it seems it's the ultimate money drain for very little return , just to keep it open   - didn't Stockwood say they will have to put another 1 million in aswell on either the DN podcast or at the forum ?

Quoted from Corkyefes

I would say that mostly the reason they can attract better players is the location towards bigger cities...
Accrington is 50 mins from Manchester, Barrow train in Manchester, Harrogate lovely place to live and Morcambe close to the Lake District (and still only an hour from Manchester on the train - 1.5hrs drive).

The fact is that nobody wants to live in Grimsby, or the surrounding towns within an hours journey, with maybe Lincoln as the exception.

This means we need to spend more money and offer better contracts, which is something the owners simply wont do.
Will can tell that by the dire salaries offered for the various jobs around the club, which not suprisingly have a high turnover of staff.

I dont know the step forward, really don't, but I do feel that all the money we have recieved for the promotion, FA cup runs, players sold etc, has all been wasted.

What did concern me in the last fans forum, was even after all this money was put into the club, we was losing money still.
Why is this?

Oh not this old chestnut again surely? Nobody was saying that early in the close season when we signed all those players from all over the country.  We have and will continue to sign players from home and even abroad if we want the player and the terms are right.

Deliberately waited a few days before posting my thoughts on the game because I simply needed to process how excrement that was.

Selection wise, Artell got everything wrong there.  Ripped apart too often down the flanks and yet he persists with Glennon and Mullarkey.    This is the bit that I'm torn on a little because I don't want Artell to try and stop us progressing into his style and approach, I don't buy into the argument that we can just go back the safe and tested to see us through the season.  If we're going down a fresh approach then we go for it, not dipping our toe in.  There's no point in persisting with certain players if they're not going to part of the future....I get that 100%.

But you cannot tell me that either Glennon or Mullarkey, the way they're currently performing anyway, are what he sees as our future approach.  Because if they are, we're copulated.  I don't think Amos or Efete are world beaters but bloody hell they would do a better job (whatever the job is!) than Glennon and Mullarkey are doing at present.

Same in midfield.  Green isn't the future.  I like him, I like his tenacity and that dirty side he offers.  But he was shite on Saturday and him not offering the physicality is like having Waterfall in the side if he didn't head it.  It's like having a man down.  

Khouri and Hunt might not be the future under Artell, that's a different discussion.  But you cannot tell me they wouldn't be offering more than the four central midfielders we started with on Saturday who contributed the total sum of intercourse all.  I get the impression Artell has made his mind up early doors on nearly all those players.  I think he would do well to reassess because some of those who he thinks might be ones he can take on the journey, clearly aren't capable.

The style isn't why we lost.  We lost because we can't defend to save our lives.  Absolute basics.  Clear your lines, stay goal side.  We do that and we've ground out a 1-0 win against a really poor Tranmere side.  

For the first time since his appointment I was drunk off with Artell.  Everyone makes mistakes and he did so with his starting line-up.  But his refusal to change it was what got me.  He could have justifiably used all 5 subs at half-time.  Instead he waited to be enforced one when Tharm got injured and then waited until 66 minutes before putting Wood out of his misery for Vernam.  Such was the shocking state of the display that I think Vernam was MOTM in his 23 minutes!  To then wait until the 86th minute, whilst chasing the game with the whole front 6 utterly ineffective (grace given to Rose who was just isolated), before making another change was a farce.

Mentally checked out on that final substitution when Eisa summed up his attitude for the day by moving to the wrong side of the pitch when his number went up, just wasting our own time.  Obikwu looked just as enthused when he came on.  I know he's a young kid but he looked lost against County and did so again in his cameo against Tranmere.  Wilson isn't a world beater but he's shown this season he's got it in his locker to grab something when coming off the bench, instead he had splinters in his bottom all game.

You take Cartwright and Rose out of that side and none could really grumble if they're dropped for Accrington.

Individually they must do better.
As a team they must do better.
Artell must do better too.

I'm not seeing it yet that we'll go down.  I think this is just the process that we're going to have to get through under Artell.  But to say that was unacceptable is an understatement.

We absolutely need a boost in confidence with a couple of really good signings but we need it on the pitch, even if just to shake a few up.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Deliberately waited a few days before posting my thoughts on the game because I simply needed to process how excrement that was.

Selection wise, Artell got everything wrong there.  Ripped apart too often down the flanks and yet he persists with Glennon and Mullarkey.    This is the bit that I'm torn on a little because I don't want Artell to try and stop us progressing into his style and approach, I don't buy into the argument that we can just go back the safe and tested to see us through the season.  If we're going down a fresh approach then we go for it, not dipping our toe in.  There's no point in persisting with certain players if they're not going to part of the future....I get that 100%.

But you cannot tell me that either Glennon or Mullarkey, the way they're currently performing anyway, are what he sees as our future approach.  Because if they are, we're copulated.  I don't think Amos or Efete are world beaters but bloody hell they would do a better job (whatever the job is!) than Glennon and Mullarkey are doing at present.

Same in midfield.  Green isn't the future.  I like him, I like his tenacity and that dirty side he offers.  But he was shite on Saturday and him not offering the physicality is like having Waterfall in the side if he didn't head it.  It's like having a man down.  

Khouri and Hunt might not be the future under Artell, that's a different discussion.  But you cannot tell me they wouldn't be offering more than the four central midfielders we started with on Saturday who contributed the total sum of intercourse all.  I get the impression Artell has made his mind up early doors on nearly all those players.  I think he would do well to reassess because some of those who he thinks might be ones he can take on the journey, clearly aren't capable.

The style isn't why we lost.  We lost because we can't defend to save our lives.  Absolute basics.  Clear your lines, stay goal side.  We do that and we've ground out a 1-0 win against a really poor Tranmere side.  

For the first time since his appointment I was drunk off with Artell.  Everyone makes mistakes and he did so with his starting line-up.  But his refusal to change it was what got me.  He could have justifiably used all 5 subs at half-time.  Instead he waited to be enforced one when Tharm got injured and then waited until 66 minutes before putting Wood out of his misery for Vernam.  Such was the shocking state of the display that I think Vernam was MOTM in his 23 minutes!  To then wait until the 86th minute, whilst chasing the game with the whole front 6 utterly ineffective (grace given to Rose who was just isolated), before making another change was a farce.

Mentally checked out on that final substitution when Eisa summed up his attitude for the day by moving to the wrong side of the pitch when his number went up, just wasting our own time.  Obikwu looked just as enthused when he came on.  I know he's a young kid but he looked lost against County and did so again in his cameo against Tranmere.  Wilson isn't a world beater but he's shown this season he's got it in his locker to grab something when coming off the bench, instead he had splinters in his bottom all game.

You take Cartwright and Rose out of that side and none could really grumble if they're dropped for Accrington.

Individually they must do better.
As a team they must do better.
Artell must do better too.

I'm not seeing it yet that we'll go down.  I think this is just the process that we're going to have to get through under Artell.  But to say that was unacceptable is an understatement.

We absolutely need a boost in confidence with a couple of really good signings but we need it on the pitch, even if just to shake a few up.

Spot on.

The signings bit worries me to be honest, the fact that one of our main issues is FB and we've got an unattached player on trail who looks like he hasn't played in ages which suggests he isn't going to hit the ground running.

It's weird, isn't it — lose 6-1 at home, but this 2-1 defeat feels more concerning.

There was no fight in the players. They looked confused. The body language was poor, they were shaking their heads while Pearson gave them a rocket from the dugout.

They should be busting a gut to win any game of football, for their own pride, if not the fans'. They should be busting a gut to prove themselves to the new manager — even if he's confusing them, or giving off mixed messages.

That was a performance of a team that looked anything but well drilled — and that's worrying, considering it was Artell's 10th game in charge.

Cartwright needs dropping he’s getting hammered to much and letting in some howlers i don’t think he’s ready yet.

Trollololol...

Quoted from Yoda

Cartwright needs dropping he’s getting hammered to much and letting in some howlers i don’t think he’s ready yet.

Twaddle

Quoted from Mappers

The ground & infrastructure cost's you would guess is the reason for losing money ; patching up BP isn't/wont come cheap and it seems it's the ultimate money drain for very little return , just to keep it open   - didn't Stockwood say they will have to put another 1 million in aswell on either the DN podcast or at the forum ?

Oh that narrative 😁😁 again.  

Quoted from GibMariner

Its not a narrative, its blood hard facts!..
Cheapside and the facilities were not fit for purpose and needed major investment, which is ongoing and BP was a frigging wreck, again massive investment needed and is at least now being maintain to satisfactory standard after 20 years of being left to rot by that turtle necked waste of space.