B Corp

Quoted from Poojah

Right, I really didn’t want to get into the broader argument about so called wokeism or DEI, as it takes us into the realm of non-football, but since there is no football this afternoon, I’ll make an exception whilst trying to keep things as on-topic as possible.

For context, I don’t consider myself “woke”. I’m a believer that you have to be very careful with any kind of ideology that threatens to swing too far left or too far right, and I’m far from comfortable with a world where a slip of the tongue or an historic transgression can potentially end an otherwise good career. Few of us are saints, and I certainly don’t profess to be one.

But I can still recognise that the world of 40, 30, 20, 10 or even 5 years ago had some fairly glaring societal issues. I just didn’t think about them very much. That’s because, as a white, straight, able-bodied male, they didn’t really affect me. Start changing any one of those parameters, and life gets harder. Change more than one, and the effect is compound.

This notion of DEI, as you put it, isn’t some woke, anti-white, anti-straight agenda. It’s about making the playing field as level as possible for everyone. Imagine two people of identical innate talent, only one is white, male, middle class, from a happy home, and went to a revered public school. The other is black, female, grew up poor, in a deprived area, and went to a failing school. Both equally talented, but one more fortunate and less discriminated against than the other, for no other reason than cos’ life ain’t fair. The former simply has a much greater advantage in fulfilling their potential; all so called DEI aims to be is be cognisant of that when it comes to university and employment applications. To be against such a concept is to be against social mobility, and to be against social mobility seems cúntish if you’re doing really well for yourself, and downright daft if you’re not.

Let’s take the specific example of your granddaughter’s application to study medicine. You point out that she is seemingly at a disadvantage of those who came from poor backgrounds and / or had free school dinners, whilst acknowledging that she has an equivalent advantage over those who went to private school. Let’s take the specific example of your granddaughter’s application to study medicine. You point out that she is seemingly at a disadvantage of those who came from poor backgrounds and / or had free school dinners, whilst acknowledging that she has an equivalent advantage over those who went to private school. The whole premise of this DEI concept is that there is no advantage or disadvantage - it creates a normalised meritocracy by putting kids from deprived backgrounds and those who had everything going for them on an equal footing.

I’m sure you can find flaws in the specific mechanic used to rank applicants, but that’s the ethos behind it. Again, I’m not sure you can be simultaneously against that kind of approach, the kind of approach encouraged by the likes of B Corp, AND the notion of the country being run by the upper classes forever more.

Finally, I’m ever so slightly perplexed as to how you managed to derive my apparent naivety from a question I asked? I’m always open minded and ready to be educated whenever I’m presented with a viewpoint that’s more logical and well rounded than my own.

Anyway, I wish your granddaughter all the best in her application. A fantastic and noble career to pursue.

Quoted from gtfcmd

Does b corp give you 3 points on the pitch ?

Quoted from GrimPol

"Let’s take the specific example of your granddaughter’s application to study medicine. You point out that she is seemingly at a disadvantage of those who came from poor backgrounds and / or had free school dinners, whilst acknowledging that she has an equivalent advantage over those who went to private school. The whole premise of this DEI concept is that there is no advantage or disadvantage - it creates a normalised meritocracy by putting kids from deprived backgrounds and those who had everything going for them on an equal footing"

"You point out that she is seemingly at a disadvantage"[/i]  Not seemingly, its actually. The college discussion is not just about over subscribed applications, its also be aware that these points stack up against you.
The Law in the UK takes care of meritocracy. The problem is that the DEI (DIE) puts pressure on people to deliver this always out of reach prize. The fact is that it you actually think "The whole premise of this DEI concept is that there is no advantage or disadvantage - it creates a normalised meritocracy by putting kids from deprived backgrounds and those who had everything going for them on an equal footing" whilst the reality is that less educated (Examination Results) will and are put forward and better educated (Exam Results)  are denied the chance due to this points system. So to fulfil your dreams of "normalised meritocracy" you do the opposite, and you are proud of it?
You see my politics allows me to see bright people, with the right work ethic be it Princes or Paupers as long as they know what they are doing, your politics is Paupers only, and if some of them are not up to it that's ok, it part of the B Corp plan. I just hope in the future your surgeon isn't one of these Paupers who shouldn't be there. Socialism in action eh, It is getting like North Korea.

Quoted from GYinScuntland

Still only his opinion though.

Quoted from Poojah

Right, I really didn’t want to get into the broader argument about so called wokeism or DEI, as it takes us into the realm of non-football, but since there is no football this afternoon, I’ll make an exception whilst trying to keep things as on-topic as possible.

For context, I don’t consider myself “woke”. I’m a believer that you have to be very careful with any kind of ideology that threatens to swing too far left or too far right, and I’m far from comfortable with a world where a slip of the tongue or an historic transgression can potentially end an otherwise good career. Few of us are saints, and I certainly don’t profess to be one.

But I can still recognise that the world of 40, 30, 20, 10 or even 5 years ago had some fairly glaring societal issues. I just didn’t think about them very much. That’s because, as a white, straight, able-bodied male, they didn’t really affect me. Start changing any one of those parameters, and life gets harder. Change more than one, and the effect is compound.

This notion of DEI, as you put it, isn’t some woke, anti-white, anti-straight agenda. It’s about making the playing field as level as possible for everyone. Imagine two people of identical innate talent, only one is white, male, middle class, from a happy home, and went to a revered public school. The other is black, female, grew up poor, in a deprived area, and went to a failing school. Both equally talented, but one more fortunate and less discriminated against than the other, for no other reason than cos’ life ain’t fair. The former simply has a much greater advantage in fulfilling their potential; all so called DEI aims to be is be cognisant of that when it comes to university and employment applications. To be against such a concept is to be against social mobility, and to be against social mobility seems cúntish if you’re doing really well for yourself, and downright daft if you’re not.

Let’s take the specific example of your granddaughter’s application to study medicine. You point out that she is seemingly at a disadvantage of those who came from poor backgrounds and / or had free school dinners, whilst acknowledging that she has an equivalent advantage over those who went to private school. The whole premise of this DEI concept is that there is no advantage or disadvantage - it creates a normalised meritocracy by putting kids from deprived backgrounds and those who had everything going for them on an equal footing.

I’m sure you can find flaws in the specific mechanic used to rank applicants, but that’s the ethos behind it. Again, I’m not sure you can be simultaneously against that kind of approach, the kind of approach encouraged by the likes of B Corp, AND the notion of the country being run by the upper classes forever more.

Finally, I’m ever so slightly perplexed as to how you managed to derive my apparent naivety from a question I asked? I’m always open minded and ready to be educated whenever I’m presented with a viewpoint that’s more logical and well rounded than my own.

Anyway, I wish your granddaughter all the best in her application. A fantastic and noble career to pursue.

Quoted from HerveJosse

Well as it’s Saturday afternoon and there is no football and we are well into non football already here goes. I would just like to point out that this imperfect world of 20 30 40 years ago produced 2-4 % annual productivity growth and steadily rising standards of living for all. Now the woke,shirker , me only (sorry me to ) generation is starting to dominate society productivity growth is nil standards of living are falling and vast parts of the country is broken and gone to ratshit.

Quoted from Balthazar Bullitt

What are you doing still expressing an opinion?
You were cancelled a few pages back

Quoted from Balthazar Bullitt

What are you doing still expressing an opinion?
You were cancelled a few pages back