Is DA a snake oil salesman.

Many more performances like that we are down Artell has serious questions to answer.

Quoted from Yoda

Many more performances like that we are down Artell has serious questions to answer.

Oh just intercourse off you little green illegitimate.

This one might run, I'll get the popcorn.

Quoted from Yoda

Many more performances like that we are down Artell has serious questions to answer.

Grow up you child.

No - Hurst’s wasted a fortune on a squad made of good lads with no fight once they go behind.

Quoted from Yoda

Many more performances like that we are down Artell has serious questions to answer.

Yup...  no words..

Got to say , without any prior knowledge of the guy , he does look like there’s a screw loose somewhere. I wouldn’t want to be in the town dressing room right now that’s for sure .

Hes got another managers players that weren't performing when he came.
Give the bloke a chance ffs.

The caretaker team had the right idea. Take what we had, and make a few small adjustments they had probably been wanting to do for ages. Instead we have appointed someone who literally wants to tear up the plan and start again with a new plan that is borderline insane. Managers never last long who do that.

Yes they are crap players but you don’t just say right lads we are going to play like Barcelona now.!!
You play to your teams strength.

Quoted from GrimRob

The caretaker team had the right idea. Take what we had, and make a few small adjustments they had probably been wanting to do for ages. Instead we have appointed someone who literally wants to tear up the plan and start again with a new plan that is borderline insane. Managers never last long who do that.

Agree with this. Smacks of Bignot to me.

Quoted from 123614

Grow up you child.

He has a bloody good point, how many absolute drubbings are we going to accept before DA is found to be a poor selection.. 6-1 suggests he hasn’t got a clue about his squad, not a bloody clue

Reeks of running before you can walk. Im not accepting a 6-1 at home. Its utterly disgraceful…. Imagine if that was Hurst.

Quoted from Hagrid

Reeks of running before you can walk. Im not accepting a 6-1 at home. Its utterly disgraceful…. Imagine if that was Hurst.

Or another

Quoted from Boonsy

He has a bloody good point, how many absolute drubbings are we going to accept before DA is found to be a poor selection.. 6-1 suggests he hasn’t got a clue about his squad, not a bloody clue

They scored 6 goals from 18 shots. Mansfield had 39 shots, we could easily have lost 10-0 there, when you give sides as many chances as we do. In Paul Hurst's last game by the way the opposition only had 9 shots on goal.

Quoted from Yoda

Yes they are crap players but you don’t just say right lads we are going to play like Barcelona now.!!
You play to your teams strength.

Literally our only strength is Danny Rose. The poor beggar must be wondering what he’s signed up for.

Quoted from GrimRob

The caretaker team had the right idea. Take what we had, and make a few small adjustments they had probably been wanting to do for ages. Instead we have appointed someone who literally wants to tear up the plan and start again with a new plan that is borderline insane. Managers never last long who do that.

Grimrob, you have put your finger on it.  There are two choices..

1. Decide on the best format and style for players we have and improve their performance
2. Decide what format and style you want to play. Get the board to agree and back the new style with new players who have the ability to play the new style.

At the moment DA is trying to introduce a new style with many players ill equipped to play that way.  Today’s result is hardly a surprise although the scale of the defeat is alarming

I think it's clear you'll complain whoever is manager. Who do you think should be our manager? I hope one day we pick 'em and when they fail, it'd be hilarious watching you try to cope, but I don't think you'd be prepared to do that. Sitting back and complaining without offering anything is how you get your self worth.

Quoted from davmariner

Agree with this. Smacks of Bignot to me.

I agree winning 3-1 Blackpool was excrement

Quoted from Yoda

Yes they are crap players but you don’t just say right lads we are going to play like Barcelona now.!!
You play to your teams strength.

What is this squad's strength Yoda, since you seem to have so much foresight compared to every single Grimsby Town manager, coach, director and poster on here?

Quoted from GYinScuntland

This one might run, I'll get the popcorn.

I will put the kettle on too.

It’s all too early to judge. We’ve got to see what happens in January. Sometimes you’ve got to have these calamities to reap the benefits.

I see some of the regulars will be enjoying trolling on their alt accounts after that thumping.

Perhaps his degree in forensics will help him decipher what that performance was all about, because fooked if I know.

I would probably agree that it’s maybe a bit too much too soon to get technically below average and mentally weak players to be playing out from the back.

But a serious question for anyone to answer; what are our strengths?

We’re not technically very good, with a lot of players not being comfortable on the ball under pressure. We’ve got precious few players who can take a man on. We have no pace at all throughout the team. We are generally outmuscled and out-fought. We have no height and nobody able to run on to longer balls. We can’t defend, I wouldn’t be unhappy to see the back of any of our defenders. And we are totally spineless. Other than Danny Rose I wouldn’t want any of this lot to be alongside me in the trenches.

The money needs to be found from somewhere for two centre backs as a minimum. I’d also be looking to see if we can get someone going forward who’s got some sort of pace even if it’s just to open up the possibility of a plausible plan B.

Pearson & Davies Better than this
Dreadful and Embarrassing
Come on Town!!

Time for a reality check?

We are no better off today than under JF and Runaway.

But hopefully the new regime will allow DA to get in his squad together and stabilise the club.

Rose is good
Elisa is ok
Couldn’t care if the rest went.

DA is paid 150k a year to sort out our squad so crack on.

Quoted from Yoda

Yes they are crap players but you don’t just say right lads we are going to play like Barcelona now.!!
You play to your teams strength.

I believe that may be the most sensible thing you’ve ever written on here!! I had to sit down when I read it

Quoted from LH

No - Hurst’s wasted a fortune on a squad made of good lads with no fight once they go behind.

That's just balderdash, there's no way a Hurst side are losing 6-1 at home, regardless of the players.

It's too early to tell on Artell but it's not Hurst's fault we were beaten 6-1 today

What really worried me was the body laguage of our players after they scored the equaliser...we were already beaten.

I really hope I am wrong (I was buzzing after the Salford win but, in truth, they were little short of appalling). Occasionally the football is a joy to behold but we are all style and no substance. Fur coat and no knickers. There is no backbone to the team.  There is just something about this set up which makes me think this is going to be a bloody disaster.

As I say...I hope I am wrong.

I would say that he needs his own Assistant Manager to help with the process who gets his style of play.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

That's just balderdash, there's no way a Hurst side are losing 6-1 at home, regardless of the players.

It's too early to tell on Artell but it's not Hurst's fault we were beaten 6-1 today

It’s Hurst’s fault we have an unbalanced squad full of bottlers though.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

That's just balderdash, there's no way a Hurst side are losing 6-1 at home, regardless of the players.

It's too early to tell on Artell but it's not Hurst's fault we were beaten 6-1 today

How many of the players were brought to the club by DA ? What happened today was typical of Hurst's teams from earlier in their season - early lead and then capitulate. The only difference today was that Walsall punished us for every mistake we made.

Quoted from mariner91

It’s Hurst’s fault we have an unbalanced squad full of bottlers though.

Agree completely, but to play out you need two decent centre backs and I’m not sure why he can’t recognise ours are NL level and aren’t capable.

But you’re bang on this side has too many finger pointers.

When 1878 have spent money on BP did they remove the kitchen sink or was it that there was nobody willing to find it and throw it into the game when we needed it.

At 1-0 we inexplicably sat back, gave away silly free kicks and then of course our Mr dependable Waterfall was exposed for his biggest weakness, speed. From then on we failed to lay a glove on them. A terrible afternoon for the club.

Quoted from rancido

How many of the players were brought to the club by DA ? What happened today was typical of Hurst's teams from earlier in their season - early lead and then capitulate. The only difference today was that Walsall punished us for every mistake we made.

We got beat 6-1!

In reality until they scored we didn’t look that bad and had put together some decent moves including the one that led to the goal. Watching Luke trying to get to the ball in front of the Findus was in many ways just demoralising for both him and the team but nobody came over to assist once he was beaten and the guy just had a free run at goal. Second goal was Glennon doing another sloppy pass into no-one and within 20 seconds it’s in our net. Eisa for the third, poor control led to the penalty and crap marking for the fifth and I was going past Caistor when the sixth went in.

Conteh, who I rate highly, was just lost playing further forward, Andrews control was poor and no physicality and Green did great for the goal but is not the man to take the ball off the back four. Clifton and Eisa offered nothing and for Rose to get 11 goals by now shows we have at least one decent player.

Quoted from Yoda

Rose is good
Elisa is ok
Couldn’t care if the rest went.

DA is paid 150k a year to sort out our squad so crack on.

Elisa may be ok but we have Eisa

Quoted from mariner91

It’s Hurst’s fault we have an unbalanced squad full of bottlers though.

Universally described as the best squad we've assembled in years.

Recently described as a decent squad for a new manager after our caretakers got a tune out of them.

Artell has come out and blamed the players but it was tactical flipping suicide in the 2nd half

Quoted from headingly_mariner

We got beat 6-1!

I never said we didn't. I merely pointed out that all the players who played today were players that had either been brought in by Hurst or were part of his plans.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Universally described as the best squad we've assembled in years.

Recently described as a decent squad for a new manager after our caretakers got a tune out of them.

Artell has come out and blamed the players but it was tactical flipping suicide in the 2nd half

And at 0-0 and 1-0 today they did look good. Throw a bit of adversity in there and they go to excrement = bottlers.

Quoted from rancido

How many of the players were brought to the club by DA ? What happened today was typical of Hurst's teams from earlier in their season - early lead and then capitulate.

There's a huge difference to surrendering a 1 goal lead and getting a draw or losing by the odd goal to the game being put beyond sight with half an hour to play. Hurst was a cautious manager and we rarely were heavily beaten. The only thing that will keep us up this season is the points secured before DA's madcap system took hold of the club, but even then we are relying on the bottom 3 not improving. If he were given a full season with this approach we'd be down by February. There's absolutely no way we are going to pick up half a dozen players who are match-fit in January and not wanted by their clubs, yet comfortable to play out for the back in a relegation dogfight. I'll be amazed if he is still here on 1st January next year.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Universally described as the best squad we've assembled in years.

Recently described as a decent squad for a new manager after our caretakers got a tune out of them.

Artell has come out and blamed the players but it was tactical flipping suicide in the 2nd half

Where has this “got a tune out of them” come from? They literally managed one good game and performance. Now I’m not downplaying how well we did against Morecambe but besides that their record reads as a fooking horrendous draw away to a shite part-time team, a miserable draw at home to the team bottom of the table and struggled to a 2-2 draw away at another team in the relegation zone. We did beat Slough 7-2 but even in that game gifted them two goals in the first half to make it far less comfortable than the score line suggests.

All season, no matter who is in charge out of the three hot seat incumbents, this team has flattered to deceive. The odd good performance here and there but generally capitulating and not showing anything like enough application too often.

As a squad it is unbalanced, severely lacking in leadership, mentally weak and physically lacking. You can describe it how you like but this squad has relegation written right through it.

I’ve nothing against Artell and hope it all works out but I really struggle with his interviews - I couldn’t make it past 30 seconds of the post match when he mentioned “the first half at Mansfield” again, it gets more and more bizarre each time. They had 39 flipping shots at goal and took the urine most of the second half.  

Quoted from HerveJosse

Elisa may be ok but we have Eisa

People like Elisa often do little.

It’s a good job that Hurst is no longer here, otherwise they’d be no one else to blame!

The reality is that we are heading back to non league unless we get behind DA, and get this thing started.

He’s been tasked with getting us playing better football. He’s also inherited what appears to be a poor set of players with no leaders apart from Rose at the wrong end of the pitch.

He’s got a lot of work to do and moaning about him won’t help as he’ll be going nowhere. This is an 1878 appointment and they’ll give him every chance to succeed. Amazing how many on here got overexcited by Friday and are wetting their nappies tonight. A lot of this squad played non league for us.

We all know there’s players who aren’t up to playing the way he wants, he’ll just need to get a few more bodies than maybe the owners wanted.

Quoted from rancido

I never said we didn't. I merely pointed out that all the players who played today were players that had either been brought in by Hurst or were part of his plans.

And I'm saying none of that means Artell doesn't have any responsibility for the result. Our biggest league loss at home since the 40's?

Just listened to his interview and even more worried now. All the blame piled on the players, no responsibility taken, it was like he's had intercourse all to do with it.

As a said it's too early to tell yet, but there are warning signs he is undoing the good work of the caretaker management team.

I really hope he's the genius he makes out he is.

Quoted from GhostDan

I’ve nothing against Artell and hope it all works out but I really struggle with his interviews - I couldn’t make it past 30 seconds of the post match when he mentioned “the first half at Mansfield” again, it gets more and more bizarre each time. They had 39 flipping shots at goal and took the urine most of the second half.  

He's right about the first half at Mansfield. We hit the bar, post and forced their keeper into three very good saves on top. They had a load of possession but *in the first half specifically* Cartwright didn't have a massive load of stuff to do and individual mistakes from Town players (and a good finish for their second) were to blame for both goals. He's said the second half was unacceptable but there's a bunch of clowns just cherry picking parts of interviews and using them out of context to moan.

There's a load of utter drivel being written about Artell on here lately, absolutely ridiculous to be questioning him when he's inherited a squad full of shite and has in some of the few games he's been in charge for has managed to get a performance out of them (MK & Salford away, Crewe at home, and tbqh we were decent against Oxford too even if we did lose).

Quoted from exiledmeggie

It’s a good job that Hurst is no longer here, otherwise they’d be no one else to blame!

The reality is that we are heading back to non league unless we get behind DA, and get this thing started.

I’m struggling to understand how getting behind DA or any other manager gets things started? It’s down to them how the team works?

Quoted from Chrisblor

He's right about the first half at Mansfield. We hit the bar, post and forced their keeper into three very good saves on top. They had a load of possession but *in the first half specifically* Cartwright didn't have a massive load of stuff to do and individual mistakes from Town players (and a good finish for their second) were to blame for both goals. He's said the second half was unacceptable but there's a bunch of clowns just cherry picking parts of interviews and using them out of context to moan.

There's a load of utter drivel being written about Artell on here lately, absolutely ridiculous to be questioning him when he's inherited a squad full of shite and has in some of the few games he's been in charge for has managed to get a performance out of them (MK & Salford away, Crewe at home, and tbqh we were decent against Oxford too even if we did lose).

We had a couple of good spells in that first half, but at best it was evenly matched against a really good side. Before they scored and just after they scored they were all over us and Cartwright did make some good saves.

He's been unlucky in that Wilson and Pyke haven't been available. It proper limits how we play, but he doesn't seem to have recognised that.

Time will tell. Today was terrible but as long as it’s a one off it has happened to much better teams than us.

Let’s not forget that he’s been in charge of the best performances of the season against Crewe and Salford either.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

We had a couple of good spells in that first half, but at best it was evenly matched against a really good side. Before they scored and just after they scored they were all over us and Cartwright did make some good saves.

He's been unlucky in that Wilson and Pyke haven't been available. It proper limits how we play, but he doesn't seem to have recognised that.

I think he knows what he’s got. The issue seems to be more attitude than anything else, some players seem to think they can get away with turning in a performance once in a blue moon.

I hope Artell does well, but he is a little eccentric. For example during the match he was having banter with Walsall’s right back Knowles on the touch line and at one point he jokingly grabbed his shirt when Knowles was getting ready to take the throw in. Also during the game he went over to a ball boy put his arm around him and told him where the ball needed to go on the side of the pitch. He also regularly turns his back on the game to speak with the subs and back room staff on the bench, this can last for quite a few seconds. He was also picking up juice bottles from around the dugout!!
You need to concentrate on the game more, Dave!

We were comfortably the better team in the first 30 minutes, and had we have got the second I’m confident the game would have played out differently.

However, a sloppy first goal to concede (not just Waterfall’s fault, as where was the cover), and then a second not long after completely killed us. This squad has a soft underbelly, and rather than fight back, I feared we would roll over.

I’m not convinced by any of the players in our defence, and it shows just how big a loss Smith has been when we concede multiple goals game after game.

I’m comfortable that we’ll be safe this season by virtue of poorer teams below us, and it’s going to need some time and surgery to turn this team into something.

That’s a really poor original post.

The guys been here for 5 minutes, hasn’t even recruited a single player yet, and has so far worked with a coaching team that he’s never worked with before.

Judge him after next summer I say

Quoted from DaleH

That’s a really poor original post.

The guys been here for 5 minutes, hasn’t even recruited a single player yet, and has so far worked with a coaching team that he’s never worked with before.

Judge him after next summer I say

Exactly he’s inherited basically a mid table non league side   ,If we can finish third from bottom or slightly better this season next season will be much better

Quoted from GrimRob

The caretaker team had the right idea. Take what we had, and make a few small adjustments they had probably been wanting to do for ages. Instead we have appointed someone who literally wants to tear up the plan and start again with a new plan that is borderline insane. Managers never last long who do that.

Exactly this , they took 5 points from possible 9, he's taken 8 from a possible 21 .

Just listened to him post match and am already tiring of him talking b0ll0cks

He looked like a rabbit in the headlights talking gibberish. I’m very concerned.

Quoted from chaos33

Just listened to him post match and am already tiring of him talking b0ll0cks

Pot, kettle, black.

Today was a bad day. Listened to the post match & I actually get what he's on about & confident he has a plan, knows what to do & how. This Christmas period has probably helped him in a perverse way as it’s identified who’s up to it & who’s not for him.

Would love to know though who’s been told they won’t be part of the plan though.

For me the post match interview on YouTube was his best to date. I couldn’t disagree with any of what he said and he came across clearly, calmly and to the point. Obviously frustrated with what he had just witnessed, especially the second half, he was able to articulate that in a matter of fact and considered way.

Whether we like it or not the season is “over” and any “success” will be to have survived another season as an EFL club. If he is given the time to mould a team to play his preferred way, that process, at times, is going to be painful to watch. But hopefully more and more we will see glimpses of a side we can all be proud of and bring future success. The road ahead is going to be bumpy, but I hope we will all look back on this period as the beginning of something great. UTM

Artell is the least of our problems. He has inherited a squad that can't play a long ball game, have very little resilience,  have very little pace and absolutely no devilment in their play. Despite today's capitulation a short passing game suits this squad best and we played it very well until they equalised and collapsed like a soufflé.

We will just have to wait till he gets a better spine to the team and we play the lovely football with more end product.

Definitely no spine, and to me that’s CBs,CM and CF. No disrespect to rose but he can’t do it all on his. We have talent in midfield but they’re mostly younger players. The defence is shocking, to a man shocking. 3-4 players needed.

Quoted from heppy88

For me the post match interview on YouTube was his best to date. I couldn’t disagree with any of what he said and he came across clearly, calmly and to the point. Obviously frustrated with what he had just witnessed, especially the second half, he was able to articulate that in a matter of fact and considered way.

Whether we like it or not the season is “over” and any “success” will be to have survived another season as an EFL club. If he is given the time to mould a team to play his preferred way, that process, at times, is going to be painful to watch. But hopefully more and more we will see glimpses of a side we can all be proud of and bring future success. The road ahead is going to be bumpy, but I hope we will all look back on this period as the beginning of something great. UTM

I thought he played a pretty straight bat in the interview. No attempt to sugar coat the performance.  His comment about it confirming what he already thought is a pretty ominous sign for some of the players. He clearly thinks they are not up to it. Whether he can actually replace them in January is another matter. It is not easy. I think our best hope is for a few loanees.

I would like to think the season is over, but it isn't. We are in real danger of relegation. We have three tough games coming up and on today's performance would lose the lot. If we do we might well be perilously close to the drop zone. We are by no means out of the woods.

Quoted from mariner91

Literally our only strength is Danny Rose. The poor beggar must be wondering what he’s signed up for.

I will tell you exactly what he signed for , 2k a week for 2 years and a move back home in his own bed every night. He knew exactly what he was walking into when he signed. Do not believe he had ideas of a promotion run unlike half you lot.

2k a week he’s cheap.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

And I'm saying none of that means Artell doesn't have any responsibility for the result. Our biggest league loss at home since the 40's?

Just listened to his interview and even more worried now. All the blame piled on the players, no responsibility taken, it was like he's had intercourse all to do with it.

As a said it's too early to tell yet, but there are warning signs he is undoing the good work of the caretaker management team.

I really hope he's the genius he makes out he is.

Damned if he does and damned if he don't.  Earlier, people were saying that they hope he has a go at the players.  I am not a fan of his interviews but he has taken a lot of blame for our performances when the players should have had a little more accountability.

Quoted from male private Nale

I will tell you exactly what he signed for , 2k a week for 2 years and a move back home in his own bed every night. He knew exactly what he was walking into when he signed. Do not believe he had ideas of a promotion run unlike half you lot.

🔔 end..

Quoted from GrimRob

The caretaker team had the right idea. Take what we had, and make a few small adjustments they had probably been wanting to do for ages. Instead we have appointed someone who literally wants to tear up the plan and start again with a new plan that is borderline insane. Managers never last long who do that.

It is also the style that our owners prefer to be played.

Quoted from Boonsy

He has a bloody good point, how many absolute drubbings are we going to accept before DA is found to be a poor selection.. 6-1 suggests he hasn’t got a clue about his squad, not a bloody clue

Actually he has.  He knows that Waterfall has no pace for a start.  He also knows that some of the squad give up when the going gets tough.  He knows that some players find making a 10 yard pass difficult, an absolute basic skill for a professional footballer.  He also knows that decision making is not something we are good at, and apart from Waterfall, we don't have a leader on the pitch.

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Grimrob, you have put your finger on it.  There are two choices..

1. Decide on the best format and style for players we have and improve their performance
2. Decide what format and style you want to play. Get the board to agree and back the new style with new players who have the ability to play the new style.

At the moment DA is trying to introduce a new style with many players ill equipped to play that way.  Today’s result is hardly a surprise although the scale of the defeat is alarming

You need to do better research.  The board actually said they wanted to see this style of play, that's another reason why DA was their first choice.  Look it up!

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Grimrob, you have put your finger on it.  There are two choices..

1. Decide on the best format and style for players we have and improve their performance
2. Decide what format and style you want to play. Get the board to agree and back the new style with new players who have the ability to play the new style.

At the moment DA is trying to introduce a new style with many players ill equipped to play that way.  Today’s result is hardly a surprise although the scale of the defeat is alarming

You need to do better research.  The board actually said they wanted to see this style of play, that's another reason why DA was their first choice.  Look it up!

Quoted from 123614

You need to do better research.  The board actually said they wanted to see this style of play, that's another reason why DA was their first choice.  Look it up!

It's alright wanting a style of play, but you have to work towards getting there. It's not as simple of completely changing on day one.

Quoted from Yoda

Rose is good
Elisa is ok
Couldn’t care if the rest went.

DA is paid 150k a year to sort out our squad so crack on.

So, who told you how much DA is getting?

Quoted from headingly_mariner

And I'm saying none of that means Artell doesn't have any responsibility for the result. Our biggest league loss at home since the 40's?

Just listened to his interview and even more worried now. All the blame piled on the players, no responsibility taken, it was like he's had intercourse all to do with it.

As a said it's too early to tell yet, but there are warning signs he is undoing the good work of the caretaker management team.

I really hope he's the genius he makes out he is.

Yes, and rightly so, all the goals were the result of individual errors, and the players gave up once we went behind.  And where did he say he was a genius?

Quoted from Spidey

I hope Artell does well, but he is a little eccentric. For example during the match he was having banter with Walsall’s right back Knowles on the touch line and at one point he jokingly grabbed his shirt when Knowles was getting ready to take the throw in. Also during the game he went over to a ball boy put his arm around him and told him where the ball needed to go on the side of the pitch. He also regularly turns his back on the game to speak with the subs and back room staff on the bench, this can last for quite a few seconds. He was also picking up juice bottles from around the dugout!!
You need to concentrate on the game more, Dave!

You need to get a life mate.

Quoted from DaleH

That’s a really poor original post.

The guys been here for 5 minutes, hasn’t even recruited a single player yet, and has so far worked with a coaching team that he’s never worked with before.

Judge him after next summer I say

Good post, agree.

Quoted from male private Nale

I will tell you exactly what he signed for , 2k a week for 2 years and a move back home in his own bed every night. He knew exactly what he was walking into when he signed. Do not believe he had ideas of a promotion run unlike half you lot.

Proof please!

Quoted from GrimRob

They scored 6 goals from 18 shots. Mansfield had 39 shots, we could easily have lost 10-0 there, when you give sides as many chances as we do. In Paul Hurst's last game by the way the opposition only had 9 shots on goal.

Mansfield are arguably the best side in this division.  Best side I can remember seeing at this level for many a year.

Walsall are the form team in this division at the minute.  

Doncaster (Hurst's last opponents) had just taken a 3-0 pasting at home to Salford when we rocked up there.

The weakness of our spine, which needs addressing and I'm certain Artell will be doing so as we speak, is a concern.  But comparing those two games against Doncaster isn't really like for like.

Quoted from 123614

You need to do better research.  The board actually said they wanted to see this style of play, that's another reason why DA was their first choice.  Look it up!

Yes I am aware of that.
But not at any cost

Quoted from 123614

Yes, and rightly so, all the goals were the result of individual errors, and the players gave up once we went behind.  And where did he say he was a genius?

No they weren't. They were a catalogue of errors. Much of it was the way Walsall began to press us.
When things go bad, you find out about managers, pointing fingers at the people you manage is not the way to go.

He did nothing to change what was going on. In all his games in charge I don't think we've changed shape once.
Walsall pressed us in and our back 4 had nowhere to go with the ball, we kept turning it over, they kept punishing us. We carried on doing the same thing.

Still in shock as to what I witnessed yesterday. Under normal circumstances that would have usually resulted in the sacking of a manager. I see it's just over a month since he joined.

Also, I thought someone said he was supposed to be animated?

Worrying is understating it. The Notts County game is likely to resemble a live autopsy with no anaesthetic.

Quoted from 140381

Still in shock as to what I witnessed yesterday. Under normal circumstances that would have usually resulted in the sacking of a manager. I see it's just over a month since he joined.

Also, I thought someone said he was supposed to be animated?

Worrying is understating it. The Notts County game is likely to resemble a live autopsy with no anaesthetic.

The Notts County prediction thread will be interesting reading.For what it's worth I think Town will come out swinging because Notts can't defend either and I forsee a high scoring game.

If profesional  footballers can not adopt to a different style of play  whay are doing playing profesional  football   Suerly every manager they have played under has a different style .

Quoted from barrattstandman

If profesional  footballers can not adopt to a different style of play  whay are doing playing profesional  football   Suerly every manager they have played under has a different style .

It's the same for a manager though isn't it? You have to be able to plan and adapt to changes in the game.

Walsall changed and we didn't. Even when the goals were flying in.

Quoted from 1mickylyons

The Notts County prediction thread will be interesting reading.For what it's worth I think Town will come out swinging because Notts can't defend either and I forsee a high scoring game.

I’ll be delighted if you’re right.

Quoted from 140381

I’ll be delighted if you’re right.

Lol I'd take a drab 0-0

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Yes I am aware of that.
But not at any cost

Lol, so you made an incorrect statement in the original post.

Unfortunately it would appear that the new manager hasn't really changed the set up of the team since taking over. Why insist on paying wing backs when all this does is motivate the central defenders to go wide. It would be ok if the two holding midfielders then dropped into the centre, but they don't and this leaves a massive gap straight through the middle which teams are exploiting. Make defenders defend to start with and at least we might stop shipping so many goals. Billy basics I'm afraid, at least until we recruit players of a higher calibre.

Quoted from 123614

You need to do better research.  The board actually said they wanted to see this style of play, that's another reason why DA was their first choice.  Look it up!

The board have also said they want to follow a data-driven approach which is why I find it highly puzzling that they want to decide the style in advance. The data if anything should dictate the style of play. The only metric that matters is expected points per game. If their preferred style (even if it is dubbed by them "The Grimsby Way") proves sub-optimal I hope they are rigorous enough to change tack.

I think David Blunket must of scouted our signings.

Quoted from Yoda

I think David Blunket must of scouted our signings.

Very insightful from you as always.

One day you might make a useful contribution but I'll not hold my breath.

Quoted from devon mariner

Unfortunately it would appear that the new manager hasn't really changed the set up of the team since taking over. Why insist on paying wing backs when all this does is motivate the central defenders to go wide. It would be ok if the two holding midfielders then dropped into the centre, but they don't and this leaves a massive gap straight through the middle which teams are exploiting. Make defenders defend to start with and at least we might stop shipping so many goals. Billy basics I'm afraid, at least until we recruit players of a higher calibre.

We’re not playing with wing backs! It’s a flat back four alternating between an out of form Rodgers and an out of legs Waterfall at RCB.

Just to drag this all back to something that resembles normality , what is a snake oil salesman?