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GrimRob
January 4, 2024, 3:20pm

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Does the playing budget include managers and coaches?


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123614
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I also believe it’s time to put some faith in our homegrown talent. The way the youth team are performing, there can’t be a better time. This could be our ‘class of 92’


We are not Manchester United mate.  Their youths are a class or two above ours.

The position we are in we definitely do not want to be blooding 18 year old inexperienced youth players.
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Many more performances like that we are down Artell has serious questions to answer.


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Clubs in the League 1 and League 2 operate within a Spending Constraint framework termed Salary Cost Management Protocol (SMCP). SCMP limits spending on player wages to a percentage of club Turnover. In League 1 clubs can spend a maximum of 60% of their turnover on wages - in League 2, the limit is 55%. There are no restrictions (in themselves) on the amount a club can lose or spend on transfer fees.
https://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.php Link for a longer explanation.


So does that mean the millions Lincoln lose each season is connected to transfer fees rather than wages?
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We are not Manchester United mate.  Their youths are a class or two above ours.

The position we are in we definitely do not want to be blooding 18 year old inexperienced youth players.


I didn’t say they would win the premier league. You’re right though, let’s just keep buying other teams cast offs, seems to be working
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I don't know why some are getting het up about the budget and saying it has all been spent and mostly wasted. Nobody on here knows what the budget is and how much of it has been used. The only insight we have is that Pettit alluded to one out one in at the forum, and we don't know if he was just keeping his cards close to his chest.

The facts are that we have 28 players on the books, two of whom are loans, and five of whom are youth team graduates who are unlikely to get much game time this season. That isn't a big squad by any means.

It's also worth noting that 18 of those players have contracts that end in June, with two of them having one year options, so even if what Pettit said was the case, there are plenty of players than can be told to start looking for a new club and placed on the transfer market in this window. There may be some financial inducements that have to be made, but it will be in their interests to seek another club now, rather than wait until the end of the season knowing they won't be getting a new deal here. I suspect those conversations will be happening right now.

So then we are just replacing one player contract for another incoming player, which won't have a massive financial impact on the club. The bigger problem will be finding those players, as the Jan window doesn't have the same amount of available players as the close season window, but there will be deals to be done, and 2,3, or 4 additions in the right places could make all the difference.

Let's see what happens in the next few weeks before we decide that all is lost.
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Just to address that link, there's not a single site on the internet that has any idea what all 24 clubs in L2 are spending on wages. Given the fact we were in for 3/4 players on deadline day, I see that as the fact that all the budget isn't spent. Partner that with the fact we know Paul Hurst was always quite tight with how he spent his budget and always left money for January. We was active every year he was in charge here in the January months. You are also misinterpreting what I said, it has to be 55% of football club income. Not 55% of all spends. We lost a million pound last year and will probably lose close to that if not more this year. JS and AP are propping the club up with funds as and when needed and every penny that is possible is going into the first team budget.



Just to address that link, there's not a single site on the internet that has any idea what all 24 clubs in L2 are spending on wages. The only way that statement can be right is if you actually know what Town and others Budget are and what % they allot to the Team Wages., hence know that these sites are rubbish. Do you know what Town and others' budgets are? I admit that I don't.

You are also misinterpreting what I said I used the term Turnover you used the term Income and you assumed that I and others understood that included £1miilion injection of funds. That is not income. Is this £1 million a loan or donation. If a loan, it has to be paid back.
And if there has been a £1million injection to cover losses with a probability of another £1 million loss, how long can this go on? How deep are the pockets of 1878?

I personally assume that the link knows more than me (or you for that matter) so if you study it you will see that Grimsby are 20th in Budget and 20th in the League. Accrington are 24th in the Budget and 10th in the League. Others are all over the place As January pans out we will know better.
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January 4, 2024, 7:22pm
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I didn’t say they would win the premier league. You’re right though, let’s just keep buying other teams cast offs, seems to be working


And neither did I.  You are missing the point.  I would think that most of the Premier Leagues youths are of a much higher standard than ours, and could quite rightly be played in their senior team.  I believe this has happened in the Premier League already.  

Looking at your final comment about buying other teams cast offs, that is exactly what the transfer window is about, teams allow players to leave, other teams buy them.

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Just thought this thread poignant after recent discussions.
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