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We got beat 6-1!
I never said we didn't. I merely pointed out that all the players who played today were players that had either been brought in by Hurst or were part of his plans.
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Universally described as the best squad we've assembled in years.
Recently described as a decent squad for a new manager after our caretakers got a tune out of them.
Artell has come out and blamed the players but it was tactical flipping suicide in the 2nd half
And at 0-0 and 1-0 today they did look good. Throw a bit of adversity in there and they go to excrement = bottlers.
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How many of the players were brought to the club by DA ? What happened today was typical of Hurst's teams from earlier in their season - early lead and then capitulate.
There's a huge difference to surrendering a 1 goal lead and getting a draw or losing by the odd goal to the game being put beyond sight with half an hour to play. Hurst was a cautious manager and we rarely were heavily beaten. The only thing that will keep us up this season is the points secured before DA's madcap system took hold of the club, but even then we are relying on the bottom 3 not improving. If he were given a full season with this approach we'd be down by February. There's absolutely no way we are going to pick up half a dozen players who are match-fit in January and not wanted by their clubs, yet comfortable to play out for the back in a relegation dogfight. I'll be amazed if he is still here on 1st January next year.
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Universally described as the best squad we've assembled in years.
Recently described as a decent squad for a new manager after our caretakers got a tune out of them.
Artell has come out and blamed the players but it was tactical flipping suicide in the 2nd half
Where has this “got a tune out of them” come from? They literally managed one good game and performance. Now I’m not downplaying how well we did against Morecambe but besides that their record reads as a fooking horrendous draw away to a shite part-time team, a miserable draw at home to the team bottom of the table and struggled to a 2-2 draw away at another team in the relegation zone. We did beat Slough 7-2 but even in that game gifted them two goals in the first half to make it far less comfortable than the score line suggests. All season, no matter who is in charge out of the three hot seat incumbents, this team has flattered to deceive. The odd good performance here and there but generally capitulating and not showing anything like enough application too often. As a squad it is unbalanced, severely lacking in leadership, mentally weak and physically lacking. You can describe it how you like but this squad has relegation written right through it.
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I’ve nothing against Artell and hope it all works out but I really struggle with his interviews - I couldn’t make it past 30 seconds of the post match when he mentioned “the first half at Mansfield” again, it gets more and more bizarre each time. They had 39 flipping shots at goal and took the urine most of the second half.
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It’s a good job that Hurst is no longer here, otherwise they’d be no one else to blame!
The reality is that we are heading back to non league unless we get behind DA, and get this thing started.
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He’s been tasked with getting us playing better football. He’s also inherited what appears to be a poor set of players with no leaders apart from Rose at the wrong end of the pitch.
He’s got a lot of work to do and moaning about him won’t help as he’ll be going nowhere. This is an 1878 appointment and they’ll give him every chance to succeed. Amazing how many on here got overexcited by Friday and are wetting their nappies tonight. A lot of this squad played non league for us.
We all know there’s players who aren’t up to playing the way he wants, he’ll just need to get a few more bodies than maybe the owners wanted.
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I never said we didn't. I merely pointed out that all the players who played today were players that had either been brought in by Hurst or were part of his plans.
And I'm saying none of that means Artell doesn't have any responsibility for the result. Our biggest league loss at home since the 40's? Just listened to his interview and even more worried now. All the blame piled on the players, no responsibility taken, it was like he's had intercourse all to do with it. As a said it's too early to tell yet, but there are warning signs he is undoing the good work of the caretaker management team. I really hope he's the genius he makes out he is.
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I’ve nothing against Artell and hope it all works out but I really struggle with his interviews - I couldn’t make it past 30 seconds of the post match when he mentioned “the first half at Mansfield” again, it gets more and more bizarre each time. They had 39 flipping shots at goal and took the urine most of the second half.
He's right about the first half at Mansfield. We hit the bar, post and forced their keeper into three very good saves on top. They had a load of possession but *in the first half specifically* Cartwright didn't have a massive load of stuff to do and individual mistakes from Town players (and a good finish for their second) were to blame for both goals. He's said the second half was unacceptable but there's a bunch of clowns just cherry picking parts of interviews and using them out of context to moan. There's a load of utter drivel being written about Artell on here lately, absolutely ridiculous to be questioning him when he's inherited a squad full of shite and has in some of the few games he's been in charge for has managed to get a performance out of them (MK & Salford away, Crewe at home, and tbqh we were decent against Oxford too even if we did lose).
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