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Interesting to see that, apart from against Wimbledon and Mansfield, we're opening the bigger (1,200 seats) section of the Osmond to Town fans. Good move that, should mean anyone who wants a seat can get one.


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A slight shame that Wimbledon will fall between the two extremes of being sufficiently accommodated within the Osmond’s smaller section and filling the larger section. I’d imagine we could have sold the 1,200 seats to home fans had they been available.


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That's their hope and it would be great ,but I'm  sure clubs will find loopholes to chase the dream and spunk it away on player salaries .


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Interesting to see that, apart from against Wimbledon and Mansfield, we're opening the bigger (1,200 seats) section of the Osmond to Town fans. Good move that, should mean anyone who wants a seat can get one.


We have to offer 10% of our capacity (850-950) but the segregation of the Osmond is 1200/600. Sounds like we have been proactive at checking what clubs will want which is great news. If we increase the capacity of BP beyond 12k, we would need to give some clubs all of the Osmond due to the segregation in place. If our capacity went over 12k, we would need a solution for cup games where you need to offer 15% of your capacity.
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We have to offer 10% of our capacity (850-950) but the segregation of the Osmond is 1200/600. Sounds like we have been proactive at checking what clubs will want which is great news. If we increase the capacity of BP beyond 12k, we would need to give some clubs all of the Osmond due to the segregation in place. If our capacity went over 12k, we would need a solution for cup games where you need to offer 15% of your capacity.


I'm far from an expert on this, but isn't it a case that opposition can be allocated less than 15% on Police or Safety advice? Sure I saw that happened between Arsenal and Man Utd. If that were true I would imagine we would look at circumventing it by citing we can't provide adequate and safe segregation of fans and we will give the maximum we have available within those constraints.
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If Gillingham have a good start they might fill the smaller section. I hadn’t particularly noticed it tbh, but for away followings, our home fixtures have indeed fallen in a lop-sided way, with all the big games but Mansfield in the second half of the season.
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If Gillingham have a good start they might fill the smaller section. I hadn’t particularly noticed it tbh, but for away followings, our home fixtures have indeed fallen in a lop-sided way, with all the big games but Mansfield in the second half of the season.


Flip side of that is we got all the best away days in the first half of the season when we've got something to play for (Notts County, Bradford, Donny, Stockport) unlike last season when all the decent ones (bar Orient and Stockport) were when the season was dead.


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I'm far from an expert on this, but isn't it a case that opposition can be allocated less than 15% on Police or Safety advice? Sure I saw that happened between Arsenal and Man Utd. If that were true I would imagine we would look at circumventing it by citing we can't provide adequate and safe segregation of fans and we will give the maximum we have available within those constraints.


Possibly, but there is also the risk that they could make us switch stands for cup games. The Main Stand currently holds 2200 and the Findus holds about 2800. That is a risk that would just need managing and factoring in as part of any extension.
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We have to offer 10% of our capacity (850-950) but the segregation of the Osmond is 1200/600. Sounds like we have been proactive at checking what clubs will want which is great news. If we increase the capacity of BP beyond 12k, we would need to give some clubs all of the Osmond due to the segregation in place. If our capacity went over 12k, we would need a solution for cup games where you need to offer 15% of your capacity.


Yeah if we ever did increase at BP keeping it to 11900 might be advisable
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Yeah if we ever did increase at BP keeping it to 11900 might be advisable


If you filled the corners in, you would just need to plan segregations accordingly, as telling STHs in the Main Stand they have to move behind the goal if they want to attend Man Utd at home isn't going to generate a positive reaction.

Could you realistically take BP above 12k anyway? I doubt we could increase the Main Stand height and I suspect any extension of the Findus wouldn't be at the same height.
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