Ground Improvements - Well done GTFC

Quoted from wuffing

The old Western school building site seems to have stalled... a really big site too??!!

Am pretty sure it isn’t but Is that this area?

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Am pretty sure it isn’t but Is that this area?

No, that's Pyewipe near the A180.

The old Western School was on Little Coates Road,

https://www.business-live.co.uk/economic-development/former-grimsby-school-site-brought-24763134

The old Western site is the blue area, the area in red (which Woz shown) is the old Macauley Tip site.  

Both sites, I believe, are still earmarked for housing with no plans to deviate from those.  Both are in the Local Plan for NEL, 390 houses at the Western site in total with a further 250 at the Macauley Tip site.
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Quoted from GollyGTFC

Freeman Street isn't suitable. Too many houses adjacent to the site. Realistically the new ground needs to be easily accessible from the A180 but not bordering a residential area or requiring driving through one to get to it.

Is that link road between Laceby & Great Coates Interchange going to happen? That could be a perfect location and the road infrastructure would be built for us..

Is that link road between

The original plan was for a large chunk of those houses to come down, along with the north half of Freeman St.  The houses that have remained near the former flats are no longer fit for purpose, they were built with short lifespans which has long exceeded.  There's a lot of derelict and dead space at that end of the area.

It's a huge area, far far bigger than the current space we occupy.  Central, literally a stones throw from the A180 and with huge potential to redevelop an area in desperate need of it.

It was a massive missed opportunity in my opinion, from all involved.

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I think the club have been badly, almost exceptionally badly, failed by a series of myopic, small-time Councillors and Council exec/leaders. These people are supposed to set and deliver the vision for the area, and all they seem interested in is potholes.

2019 should’ve been the time to press on - as Fenty said, all the ducks were in a row with one party in overall control of the Council, both MPs seemingly in alignment with the Council and vast pots of money available for big projects & regeneration schemes.

Absolutely nothing, from what I can see, has been meaningfully delivered. This isn’t party-political, its systemic. A wasted opportunity of monumental proportions for the town.  

Quoted from ska face

I think the club have been badly, almost exceptionally badly, failed by a series of myopic, small-time Councillors and Council exec/leaders. These people are supposed to set and deliver the vision for the area, and all they seem interested in is potholes.

2019 should’ve been the time to press on - as Fenty said, all the ducks were in a row with one party in overall control of the Council, both MPs seemingly in alignment with the Council and vast pots of money available for big projects & regeneration schemes.

Absolutely nothing, from what I can see, has been meaningfully delivered. This isn’t party-political, its systemic. A wasted opportunity of monumental proportions for the town.  

They even fix the potholes.

Quoted from ska face

I think the club have been badly, almost exceptionally badly, failed by a series of myopic, small-time Councillors and Council exec/leaders. These people are supposed to set and deliver the vision for the area, and all they seem interested in is potholes.

2019 should’ve been the time to press on - as Fenty said, all the ducks were in a row with one party in overall control of the Council, both MPs seemingly in alignment with the Council and vast pots of money available for big projects & regeneration schemes.

Absolutely nothing, from what I can see, has been meaningfully delivered. This isn’t party-political, its systemic. A wasted opportunity of monumental proportions for the town.  

The constant meaningless frittering away of modest but substantial investment pots over decades has delivered relatively little or practically zero. Whereas putting everything into a single transformative scheme like a community stadium replacing a run down area of the town might have captured the imagination and attracted long-term private inward investment around a single impressive focal point. Small-time thinkers deliver small-time towns unfortunately..

Quoted from Bigdog

The constant meaningless frittering away of modest but substantial investment pots over decades has delivered relatively little or practically zero. Whereas putting everything into a single transformative scheme like a community stadium replacing a run down area of the town might have captured the imagination and attracted long-term private inward investment around a single impressive focal point. Small-time thinkers deliver small-time towns unfortunately..

Unfortunately Bigdog, you've absolutely smashed the nail deep in to the problem there.

There is this incredibly weird sense of NIMBYism mixed with this obsession with fixing problems that don't really exist.  The council have proved to be and are still at fault for large parts of this. Ridiculous schemes like the pissing Palm Tree that never was, the paving farce in Grimsby centre, John Fenty's £1million bridge next to a bridge that was perfectly usable, the constant moving about of the bus station....  

But the residents have their part to play too. Every time anything different is suggested it's absolutely shot down.  The stock answer is always "we don't need one/another one".  Retail is dead and it's all about the entertainment and leisure sector now.  Yet every time a derelict shop is converted into a bar the same old chorus is heard that we don't need more bars.  Well yes we do. We do because they create jobs.  They create jobs for people to earn money, which in turn means they can spend that money and create more jobs...

There are no rules on how many of things you can have.  The cinema, if it ever gets built, in the place of Freshney Place isn't needed apparently because we've got a cinema in Cleethorpes. My favourite comment on this was "it's the same company too".  As if by having a Parkway and an Odeon is ok, but not two of the same.  Because they show different films, right?

It's the same with the football ground.  On this forum there is always that mindset of 'why do we need extra seats, why do we need to release more seats for games, why do we need to try to make things better'.   Because if you stay standing you go backwards!  Be it with the football club or with the town itself.

NE Lincs has so much untapped potential that it's painful to watch it just drift aimlessly along.  Content for the only developments to be for extra housing and hoping that the windfarm industry magically brings back the golden days of when the fishing fleet ruled the world.   The windfarm industry might create jobs and it even bring people to the area, but it won't regenerate a dying town.  That has to come from within, from the people.

That's one hell of a temporary stand at Old Trafford cricket ground, how about that replacing the Main Stand

https://thesportsrush.com/cric.....ets-expansion-plans/

Quoted from diehardmariner

It's the same with the football ground.  On this forum there is always that mindset of 'why do we need extra seats, why do we need to release more seats for games, why do we need to try to make things better'.   Because if you stay standing you go backwards!  Be it with the football club or with the town itself.

Have many of those that use that ‘we don’t need any bigger’ cr@p live in homes that have spare rooms for when guests/friends/family etc come to stay? It’s exactly the same. If Albert and Pearl live in a 3 bed semi and the kids have flown the nest, then should they move to a 1 bed bungalow