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White_shorts
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I think the club have been badly, almost exceptionally badly, failed by a series of myopic, small-time Councillors and Council exec/leaders. These people are supposed to set and deliver the vision for the area, and all they seem interested in is potholes.

2019 should’ve been the time to press on - as Fenty said, all the ducks were in a row with one party in overall control of the Council, both MPs seemingly in alignment with the Council and vast pots of money available for big projects & regeneration schemes.

Absolutely nothing, from what I can see, has been meaningfully delivered. This isn’t party-political, its systemic. A wasted opportunity of monumental proportions for the town.  


Don't blame the council for a Freemo stadium not happening, blame Stockwood and Pettit.  Philip Jackson has said repeatedly the club owners have no interest in the old flats site.


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What? So we build a ground with magic beans simply to accommodate a few fair weather types who fancy getting involved because there’s a sniff of the big time.


I think there are many people who would like to attend more home games regardless of what division the club is in, but don't wish to suffer restricted views, long queues for toilets and being separated from family members.

The Grimsby West developers are planning to build a primary school, community hub and village store adjacent to the A1136.  A new stadium can incorporate classrooms, meeting rooms and retail units.



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That's one hell of a temporary stand at Old Trafford cricket ground, how about that replacing the Main Stand

https://thesportsrush.com/cric.....ets-expansion-plans/


Wonder what the 'Gene Kelly' stand from Maine Road is up to these days.

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dft9SxPWkAAM9dr?format=jpg&name=large[/img]

Absolutely freezing up there, watching Town lose 2-1 between Xmas and New Year in '99.  I went to the fixture the following season, 4-0 hammering but can't remember a single thing about the game, not even if we were still in that temp stand or not.
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Don't blame the council for a Freemo stadium not happening, blame Stockwood and Pettit.  Philip Jackson has said repeatedly the club owners have no interest in the old flats site.




This the same Philip Jackson who said there was no need for an inquiry into Fenty (as deputy leader and portfolio holder for regeneration at the time) getting into bed with convicted fraudster Alex May?



Yeah, ok.
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Exactly, the last time Jackson was spotted he was tucking into a sandwich platter with Alex May. What has Jackson, personally responsible for “economic strategy, regeneration, inward investment and growth” actively done to relocate the club, beyond meekly pushing a site the owners aren’t interested in?
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Unfortunately Bigdog, you've absolutely smashed the nail deep in to the problem there.

There is this incredibly weird sense of NIMBYism mixed with this obsession with fixing problems that don't really exist.  The council have proved to be and are still at fault for large parts of this. Ridiculous schemes like the pissing Palm Tree that never was, the paving farce in Grimsby centre, John Fenty's £1million bridge next to a bridge that was perfectly usable, the constant moving about of the bus station....  

But the residents have their part to play too. Every time anything different is suggested it's absolutely shot down.  The stock answer is always "we don't need one/another one".  Retail is dead and it's all about the entertainment and leisure sector now.  Yet every time a derelict shop is converted into a bar the same old chorus is heard that we don't need more bars.  Well yes we do. We do because they create jobs.  They create jobs for people to earn money, which in turn means they can spend that money and create more jobs...

There are no rules on how many of things you can have.  The cinema, if it ever gets built, in the place of Freshney Place isn't needed apparently because we've got a cinema in Cleethorpes. My favourite comment on this was "it's the same company too".  As if by having a Parkway and an Odeon is ok, but not two of the same.  Because they show different films, right?

It's the same with the football ground.  On this forum there is always that mindset of 'why do we need extra seats, why do we need to release more seats for games, why do we need to try to make things better'.   Because if you stay standing you go backwards!  Be it with the football club or with the town itself.

NE Lincs has so much untapped potential that it's painful to watch it just drift aimlessly along.  Content for the only developments to be for extra housing and hoping that the windfarm industry magically brings back the golden days of when the fishing fleet ruled the world.   The windfarm industry might create jobs and it even bring people to the area, but it won't regenerate a dying town.  That has to come from within, from the people.


A brilliant post sums up this area.



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Just go for a wander around Lincoln and see what a council who are capable of delivering regeneration can do .


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Just go for a wander around Lincoln and see what a council who are capable of delivering regeneration can do .


Just don't mention the Xmas Market eh?

Freemo was a once in a lifetime chance to get the stadium in the perfect place. Instead it's probably going to end up with the same kind of housing/vibe as before ie a dumping ground.

My favourite place in the world is a seat in the Lower but BP is a crumbling, and increasingly costly, relic that needs to be replaced ASAP. Our owners are multi millionaires so have the cash to make it happen
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Just don't mention the Xmas Market eh?

Freemo was a once in a lifetime chance to get the stadium in the perfect place. Instead it's probably going to end up with the same kind of housing/vibe as before ie a dumping ground.

My favourite place in the world is a seat in the Lower but BP is a crumbling, and increasingly costly, relic that needs to be replaced ASAP. Our owners are multi millionaires so have the cash to make it happen


I think you massively underestimate the cost of a new ground if you think stockwood and petit can fund it...
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I think you massively underestimate the cost of a new ground if you think stockwood and petit can fund it...


I think Andrew and Jason should be on the phone to Mr Hilton of Scunthorpe. He's going to deliver a 12,000 seater stadium on a tip in 2 years ..............
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