Hurst Out

Dan you say your struggling to understand why grown men post drivel online against others hiding behind a computer but then you post that.

I don't see anything on here that goes personal against the players or the manager, looks like your trying to escalate something that isn't there behind your keyboard as you put it.

Quoted from pontoonlew

And apparently, we've got a competitive budget, so why aren't we competing with anybody we come up against?

Yeah, I mean that last sentence is just nonsense. We’ve been more than competitive with everyone and better than a lot. Our losses are invariably by one goal. Let’s keep it real.

Quoted from chaos33

Yeah, I mean that last sentence is just nonsense. We’ve been more than competitive with everyone and better than a lot. Our losses are invariably by one goal. Let’s keep it real.

You do have to ask why we’ve been routinely on the wrong side of those 1-goal defeats of late, and only just avoided adding another one to the tally against Halifax at home.

Invariably it’s been through error on our part, and a failure to take chances at the other end. Is it just as simple as bad luck, or is there something more fundamental at play?

Quoted from chaos33

Yeah, I mean that last sentence is just nonsense. We’ve been more than competitive with everyone and better than a lot. Our losses are invariably by one goal. Let’s keep it real.

But you don’t win games by being competitive, you win them by scoring more goals than the opposition. If our form was patchy, we could say we’ve been unlucky. But with the long run we’re on, it must come down to something more fundamental.

Quoted from chaos33

Yeah, I mean that last sentence is just nonsense. We’ve been more than competitive with everyone and better than a lot. Our losses are invariably by one goal. Let’s keep it real.

If you lose the odd game having played well, it's unlucky but losing 11 out of 14 games is not unlucky, competitive or anything else other than disgraceful.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Dan you say your struggling to understand why grown men post drivel online against others hiding behind a computer but then you post that.

I don't see anything on here that goes personal against the players or the manager, looks like your trying to escalate something that isn't there behind your keyboard as you put it.

Type Giles Coke or Paul Hurst in on Twitter and you'll get a pretty good idea of what I mean.  

I think you are conflating issues here. I’ve said it’s unacceptable and I too wonder why we are continuing on the wrong side of the ‘fine margins’. It’s right to ask if there is something more fundamental behind this.
To say we are ‘not competitive’ is just plain wrong and doesn’t really contribute anything to a consideration of what’s happened. Obviously I acknowledge that Stockport dismantled us in the trophy, and Solihull beat us comfortably, but generally we’ve lost lots of games 1-0 where we have failed to either create or take chances or through individual error.

I guess it’s all very well sacking a manager when we are playing so badly but we’re not Man City. Who, who are any better than Hurst, are we likely to get? We all know the answer and that is no one. I do agree that his decisions and tactics are very negative and he’s obviously conservative by nature, however he’s got Chris Doig to bounce ideas off. You’d have thought that if Doig had anything about him he’d say why not be more adventurous. We’re losing anyway let’s just go for it.

I think half the problem is he just cannot get a really decent striker in to partner McAtee. We’ve been so spoilt in the past because we’ve had Connell, Hearn, Amond and Bogle but they don’t grow on trees. When you realise that Bogle only cost £20,000 and Palmar cost Wrexham £300,000 and a monster pay rise, then what chance do we have? The days of saying have 20 grand to a lower club for your top striker and you be grateful for that are obviously over. Especially with the money that’s splashing around with so many clubs in the Conference these days. I think things will improve money wise a little when Fenty is paid off, but at the moment I think we just have to stick with Hurst. It’ll be interesting to see what happens if in 12 months he’s still in the job and we’re still losing for fun again!

Quoted from chaos33

Yeah, I mean that last sentence is just nonsense. We’ve been more than competitive with everyone and better than a lot. Our losses are invariably by one goal. Let’s keep it real.

Competing to me is winning, and we’re not doing that

Well that’s just compounded the original error! ‘Competing’ and ‘winning’ are clearly two separate things aren’t they. You’d have been better off just saying ‘yeah, maybe it was an overstatement to say we are not competing’. Saves face rather than looking a bit daft.