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I’m tempted to ignore this obtuse remark, but in the interests of helping you understand the point…
No. Of course you don’t. But we’re not talking about that. His original point was ‘if we have a competitive budget, how come we aren’t competitive’, (and then went on to say ‘competing is the same as winning’),which, even if we all agree that current/recent results are disappointing and unacceptable, is palpably just nonsense, given that we’ve not been truly turned over in a league game by anyone, and nearly all defeats have been by 1 goal, and usually including missed chances or controversial decisions.
Critical analysis is a welcome feature of this forum. Peddling alarmist, overdramatic falsehoods doesn’t contribute anything helpful or instructive.
Hope this helps.
Statistics. Not alarmist, overdramatise falsehoods. And remember Slade & Holloway’s terrible form was in League Two. NOT THE NATIONAL LEAGUE! Oh and didn’t the new owners say our playing squad budget would increase this season despite relegation? I’ll save you time googling- they did. So it’s lower league, higher budget & losing more games. But I suppose Paul Hurst is the type of guy you’d be delighted if your daughter brought home.
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Im doubtful Hurst will get the sack. I think the owners probably will give him until October.
The annoying thing is it's not like we were under Slade or Hollowhead, where we getting slaughtered week in week out. We've generally been in games and in many cases should have won them. But I feel we're quite soft, we dont do the shithousery that every other side do. We make too many absolute howlers that lead to goals and time and time again we miss guilt-edge chances. The simple fact is that we need to pay top dollar for a decent goalscorer. We won't do that because of "the parasite" preventing us having the funds. This is why we will end up finishing 14th rather than 4th.
We are too soft. As much as I like Taylor for his tough old fashioned way of being, he hardly ever goes down even when being fouled. Unfortunately, it's part and parcel of the modern game. Other teams use a lot of nefarious tactics. Altrincham's keeper going down like a sack of spuds for every corner. Waterfall's yellow card against Halifax. Yeah he put his arm across but the forward was falling before he even got near his chest. I cant workout how ref's fall for it. We cannot even successfully appeal a penalty.
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Statistics. Not alarmist, overdramatise falsehoods.
And remember Slade & Holloway’s terrible form was in League Two. NOT THE NATIONAL LEAGUE!
Oh and didn’t the new owners say our playing squad budget would increase this season despite relegation? I’ll save you time googling- they did.
So it’s lower league, higher budget & losing more games.
But I suppose Paul Hurst is the type of guy you’d be delighted if your daughter brought home.
Given that she’s only 5, I’d deem it odd. A bit like your remarks on this subject generally.
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Why does it take a manager and assistant manager to fcuck us up - surely one could fcuck us up on his own ?
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Eastleigh just sacked their manager who managed more than twice as many points as Hurst over the last 12 games
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The thing I'm struggling with most during this god awful run of results, is watching the way grown men conduct themselves online - it's flipping embarrassing. These are the same people that spout the usual cliches like Players need 'pLaY 4 ThE sHiRt' - but anytime a player makes a mistake then are subject to horrendous & personal abuse online? Pull yourselves together.
Whether you are 'Hurst in or out', at least have a level of respect for a man trying to do his job, he might not be perfect (and results certainly aren't) but at least he's trying, he's in front of the camera multiple times a week trying to explain his thoughts and decisions. Most of the people spouting diatribe probably only get out from behind the computer screen when it's time to ask Mummy to wash their wanking sock. Morons.
UTM though.
FFS, this board is no different to any other team's board and it has been like this for years. This is what happens on forums especially when the team is losing. If you don't like it don't bother coming on.
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But you don’t win games by being competitive, you win them by scoring more goals than the opposition. If our form was patchy, we could say we’ve been unlucky. But with the long run we’re on, it must come down to something more fundamental.
Sadly some on here can't understand that.
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Eastleigh just sacked their manager who managed more than twice as many points as Hurst over the last 12 games
Not surprising. Tuesday night was their 10th league defeat of the season. Not good enough for an ambitious club like Eastleigh I guess.
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I guess it’s all very well sacking a manager when we are playing so badly but we’re not Man City. Who, who are any better than Hurst, are we likely to get? We all know the answer and that is no one. I do agree that his decisions and tactics are very negative and he’s obviously conservative by nature, however he’s got Chris Doig to bounce ideas off. You’d have thought that if Doig had anything about him he’d say why not be more adventurous. We’re losing anyway let’s just go for it.
I think half the problem is he just cannot get a really decent striker in to partner McAtee. We’ve been so spoilt in the past because we’ve had Connell, Hearn, Amond and Bogle but they don’t grow on trees. When you realise that Bogle only cost £20,000 and Palmar cost Wrexham £300,000 and a monster pay rise, then what chance do we have? The days of saying have 20 grand to a lower club for your top striker and you be grateful for that are obviously over. Especially with the money that’s splashing around with so many clubs in the Conference these days. I think things will improve money wise a little when Fenty is paid off, but at the moment I think we just have to stick with Hurst. It’ll be interesting to see what happens if in 12 months he’s still in the job and we’re still losing for fun again!
There you go Aitor Karanka Alex McLeish Andrea Pirlo André Villas-Boas Andriy Shevchenko Billy Davies Bruno Labbadia Chris Beech Chris Hughton Claude Puel Claudio Ranieri Daniel Farke Diego Martínez Ernesto Valverde Eusebio Di Francesco Fabio Cannavaro Fatih Terim Frank de Boer Frank Lampard Frankie McAvoy Garry Monk Gennaro Gattuso Graham Westley Grant McCann Gus Poyet Hayden Mullins Heiko Herrlich Hernán Crespo Ian Holloway Jack Ross Jaap Stam Javi Gracia Jesse Marsch Joachim Löw Jon Dahl Tomasson Jonathan Woodgate Jorge Jesus Jürgen Klinsmann Luca Gotti Lucien Favre Luiz Felipe Scolari Mark Hughes Mark van Bommel Marko Nikolić Markus Schopp Martin Allen Michael Flynn Michel Mick McCarthy Neil Harris Neil Lennon Neil Warnock Nigel Adkins Nigel Worthington Niko Kovač Nuno Espírito Santo Ole Gunnar Solskjaer Paco López Paul Clement Paul Cook Paul Dickov Paul Lambert Paulo Fonseca Pep Clotet Phil Brown Phillip Cocu Quique Setién Rafa Benitez Roberto Di Matteo Ronald Koeman Rudi Garcia Sabri Lamouchi Sam Allardyce Simon Grayson Slaviša Jokanović Slaven Bilić Sol Campbell Steve Bruce Steve Evans Tommy Wright Tony Pulis Uwe Rösler Vítor Pereira Vladimir Ivić Zinedine Zidane Obviously you could add to that list any up and coming manager already in a job that would love to take over a club the size of GTFC. Looking at that list, the only one who could save us now could be Mr Jesus.
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FFS, this board is no different to any other team's board and it has been like this for years. This is what happens on forums especially when the team is losing.
If you don't like it don't bother coming on.
Yeah. It’s alright to be disrespectful and spiteful and abusive because everyone else is doing it (apparently). Whilst the players and manager are doing their absolute best and are totally committed they will not be subject to abuse and derision from me. You get stuck in if it makes you happy. As long as I see John McAtee, and Harry Clifton and Giles Coke and Shaun Pearson etc absolutely obviously giving their all, I’ll support them.
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