Croatia refuse to take the knee in Euro’s

Quoted from DB

He obviously did as the request was his. He could have said any other name and it would have been ok with me. His choice, not mine.

DB don't keep trying to justify yourself to idiots.
Just tell the Jeremy's to intercourse off.

From elsewhere:

There is no rational argument against taking the knee. It harms no one, insults nothing and does not interfere with the rhythm of the game. The England players work in multicultural dressing-rooms. They understand better than dogwhistling Tory MPs and booing bigots that talent, application and intelligence are not linked in any way to ethnicity or colour. Football grounds should be places that force you to think about your attitude to race. The makeup of the teams should challenge preconceptions.

Unlike the Conservative MPs and their allies. Only a fool could believe the crank theories that they have dredged up to confuse the public. The same goes for the booing supporters, who claim they are protesting against Marxism. They are beyond parody but too many are treating them seriously.

The racists cannot any longer display NF flags and call players despicable names with impunity. They have had to become creative but their warped logic is beyond absurd.

England and the FA cannot back down. You either confront racism or tacitly condone it. The country should be proud of its team and ashamed of some of its elected representatives.


Nice summary.

Quoted from TAGG

DB don't keep trying to justify yourself to idiots.
Just tell the Jeremy's to intercourse off.

As in cfffkou or is this a new word for our younger generation?

Quoted from Humbercod

DB....Hi there I’m DB welcome to the neighbourhood my friend.

Sam...Hello my name is Cheteshwar Samson but you can call me Sam.

DB.... Ok Sam it is then.

40 years later ........

Grantley.....Racist😡

You really think he was called Sambo because his unpronounceable name was Samson? Is this parody ?

Some pretty angry debate here about Croatia's decision whilst completely missing the point that it is entirely their or any other team or individual players free choice to kneel or not, personally I dont care either way and respect the individuals choice and reasons for whatever they do.
We still live in a free society and it is entirely resonable for people to make their own choices and not feel the need to conform or bow to pressure either way.

Quoted from Stadium

From elsewhere:

There is no rational argument against taking the knee. It harms no one, insults nothing and does not interfere with the rhythm of the game. The England players work in multicultural dressing-rooms. They understand better than dogwhistling Tory MPs and booing bigots that talent, application and intelligence are not linked in any way to ethnicity or colour. Football grounds should be places that force you to think about your attitude to race. The makeup of the teams should challenge preconceptions.

Unlike the Conservative MPs and their allies. Only a fool could believe the crank theories that they have dredged up to confuse the public. The same goes for the booing supporters, who claim they are protesting against Marxism. They are beyond parody but too many are treating them seriously.

The racists cannot any longer display NF flags and call players despicable names with impunity. They have had to become creative but their warped logic is beyond absurd.

England and the FA cannot back down. You either confront racism or tacitly condone it. The country should be proud of its team and ashamed of some of its elected representatives.


Nice summary.

Or of course you could just simply be a football fan who wants to watch football without this sideshow detracting from the game

Quoted from LH

Anyone supporting Croatia over England on here should take a knee. In the balderdash.

Depends if they've got them in the sweepstake. 😉

Quoted from 1mickylyons

Or of course you could just simply be a football fan who wants to watch football without this sideshow detracting from the game

Correct as stated in the second line:

"It harms no one, insults nothing and does not interfere with the rhythm of the game"

Quoted from Azimuth

Some pretty angry debate here about Croatia's decision whilst completely missing the point that it is entirely their or any other team or individual players free choice to kneel or not, personally I dont care either way and respect the individuals choice and reasons for whatever they do.
We still live in a free society and it is entirely resonable for people to make their own choices and not feel the need to conform or bow to pressure either way.

The problem I have with Croatia doing this is that they have a huge problem with racism in their country.

Recent bans for swastikas mown into the pitch and racist fan chanting. That’s before we even contemplate the fact they have committed genocidal acts in the past 30 years.

Quoted from Gaffer58

Out of interest how many on this board have taken the knee today, if not why not, it always seems to be the poor old (sorry, rich young) footballers/ sportspersons who are expected to show their solidarity with the oppressed etc.

I didn't take the knee today but it wouldn't quite have the same effect when there's only usually me and two others in the room I work in as opposed to being watched by millions of people on TV.