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The knee protest originated with Kaepernick. He originally sat down during the anthem but after the furore that caused, he consulted a US military veteran on what would be a respectful way to protest
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Spin it how you want, make excuses how you want, blame everyone as much as you want.you know the real reason why you’re so against a simple protest.
It’s all in black and white.
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The players are taking a knee for racial equality. They are taking a knee in solidarity of each other.
They are not taking the knee for BLM.
This is so simple it's untrue. Heading for a 7th page in this thread, literally a day after another massive thread on exactly the same issue.
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The players are taking a knee for racial equality. They are taking a knee in solidarity of each other.
They are not taking the knee for BLM.
This is so simple it's untrue. Heading for a 7th page in this thread, literally a day after another massive thread on exactly the same issue.
And if Croatian players now take the knee under threat of suspension/exclusion, how does that square with solidarity Rich? |
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More to the point, how would you feel about supporters booing the players for not taking the knee, would that not be acceptable?
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And if Croatian players now take the knee under threat of suspension/exclusion, how does that square with solidarity Rich?
“The Croatian Football Federation believes that the players have a right to their own opinion on these topics, and that they also have a right to choose whether they want to engage in any activity. The players of the Croatian national team jointly decided ahead of the friendly match against Belgium that they will not take the knee and they respectfully stood in silence during the kneeling of their Belgian colleagues. The Croatian Football Federation respects their stance on this and will not impose taking the knee as an obligation for Croatian players, as this gesture does not hold any symbolic ties to the fight against racism and discrimination in the context of Croatian culture and tradition.” Honestly, do you flipping lot only bother reading things when they suit your argument. "ooh it's Marxist!!!" "ooooh it's connected to BLM in america" "oooh the Croatian FA are forcing their players to kneel". All easily disprovable balderdash. The real question here is why do you keep dredging up all these reasons for opposing a symbolic gesture which at worse costs you about 5-10 seconds of time that would have otherwise been spent on listening to inane pre-match build-up? |
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“The Croatian Football Federation believes that the players have a right to their own opinion on these topics, and that they also have a right to choose whether they want to engage in any activity.
The players of the Croatian national team jointly decided ahead of the friendly match against Belgium that they will not take the knee and they respectfully stood in silence during the kneeling of their Belgian colleagues.
The Croatian Football Federation respects their stance on this and will not impose taking the knee as an obligation for Croatian players, as this gesture does not hold any symbolic ties to the fight against racism and discrimination in the context of Croatian culture and tradition.”
Honestly, do you flipping lot only bother reading things when they suit your argument. "ooh it's Marxist!!!" "ooooh it's connected to BLM in america" "oooh the Croatian FA are forcing their players to kneel". All easily disprovable balderdash. The real question here is why do you keep dredging up all these reasons for opposing a symbolic gesture which at worse costs you about 5-10 seconds of time that would have otherwise been spent on listening to inane pre-match build-up?
Don’t let facts get in the way of (frightened middle aged white men) a pointless story… |
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Where has the threat of being kicked out the tournament been mentioned for not taking the knee? I mean from an official source, not some chinese whispers. As far as I was aware a number of countries have not committed to it or made it optional, Germany and Holland are doing this, are they getting chucked out?
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Spin it how you want, make excuses how you want, blame everyone as much as you want.you know the real reason why you’re so against a simple protest.
It’s all in black and white.
I see Scotland have re-affirmed their position in not taking the knee. Surely you are not suggesting the entire Scotland team are racist, are you? We will now have the incredible situation where England will be booed by some of their own fans before kick-off against the auld enemy in a major tournament. |
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It's a choice of whether you take the knee or not, not a diktat. If your choose to not take the knee then does that make you a racist?
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