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Well it seems we have a a multiracial team coming together & on this forum that's all I care about - Grimsby Town FC.
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Out of interest how many on this board have taken the knee today, if not why not, it always seems to be the poor old (sorry, rich young) footballers/ sportspersons who are expected to show their solidarity with the oppressed etc.


I have, dozens of times, though I was building some planters on the floor at the time.


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Ska face always judges other people’s intelligence that is a sign he has none.
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I don't mind criticism, after all that is what this site is all about. If we all agreed how boring it would be. So when the above generalsed comment is made aimed at many in one particular age group, without any reason or justification you have to ask why.

Isn't this a type of prejudice against one particular age group? Some of us could have health issues, others may not be white! Surely a broadly banded raging diatribe only degrades the author?

I don't know the answers but what I know is that everybody over 60 has been through the mill of life, and are as a group wiser than any group of children. The elderly use their brain, whereas children use google because they know no other way of finding information. They haven't been on the earth long enough.


That’s probably why the older generations continue to misjudge and get things wrong, when information is readily available for those willing to find it. Whereabouts do the over-60s get their info on how to counter racism then? Because it definitely isn’t from experience.


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Don’t assume everyone over 60 have the same opinion regarding racism or anything else
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That’s probably why the older generations continue to misjudge and get things wrong, when information is readily available for those willing to find it. Whereabouts do the over-60s get their info on how to counter racism then? Because it definitely isn’t from experience.


Discrimination against older people? Surely not in this day and age.  

It is from experience, actually. On a local and national level. Anybody living through the 50's and 60's saw racism on an industrial scale. On a local football level, it was incredibly rare to see a black player.

We have come a very long way indeed from those days, and of course we, the older generation who lived through it and beyond are the people (now older, sadly) who helped to make things much better. Nobody will deny racism still exists today, but equally nobody can deny we have made great strides and the UK today is one of the most multicultural societies in the world, with very tough laws on equality.

Taking the knee is not helping, as can be seen on comments pages up and down the land with the sport almost taking a back seat. It is too aligned to a political agenda regardless of what the players say.
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That’s probably why the older generations continue to misjudge and get things wrong, when information is readily available for those willing to find it. Whereabouts do the over-60s get their info on how to counter racism then? Because it definitely isn’t from experience.


You make a lot of unwise assumptions. I for one have respected all people and have made a point of asking them how they wished to called, as in the early 70's an Asian couple move in next to me. I introduced myself and he told me his name. I asked him how to pronounce it as it was a very long Asian name I'd never heard of and he said 'Sam'. I gave him a strange look and then he explained. Where he worked nobody could pronounce his name so he was called 'Sambo' shortened to Sam and was in no way was there any racial discrimination there, merely a nickname which in those days was the norm.

Many years later a Caribbean gentleman moved next to me, following the same procedure he wanted to be called Andy, no problem.

I don't misjudge people and get things wrong as you state but I do use my lifelong experience to get things right. If there is a subject I know little or nothing about I ask.

In fact, I have an interesting question and I'm sure many on here will have an appropriate answer.

What do you call morons who have no respect for the elderly, who have not got the brains to realise that they, more than likely, will be in that age group one day?



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You make a lot of unwise assumptions. I for one have respected all people and have made a point of asking them how they wished to called, as in the early 70's an Asian couple move in next to me. I introduced myself and he told me his name. I asked him how to pronounce it as it was a very long Asian name I'd never heard of and he said 'Sam'. I gave him a strange look and then he explained. Where he worked nobody could pronounce his name so he was called 'Sambo' shortened to Sam and was in no way was there any racial discrimination there, merely a nickname which in those days was the norm.

Many years later a Caribbean gentleman moved next to me, following the same procedure he wanted to be called Andy, no problem.

I don't misjudge people and get things wrong as you state but I do use my lifelong experience to get things right. If there is a subject I know little or nothing about I ask.

In fact, I have an interesting question and I'm sure many on here will have an appropriate answer.

What do you call morons who have no respect for the elderly, who have not got the brains to realise that they, more than likely, will be in that age group one day?



Perhaps nothing shows the institutional racism that is so prevalent in this country more than this post, I do not believe you believe you are racist but calling someone Sam because his workmates called him Sambo and because you couldn’t make the effort to learn how to pronounce one name of a man who probably learnt a whole new language? Come on.
That you think this is ok shows the generational divide very clearly, perhaps you are one of those who use “woke “ as an insult, most younger people see it as a compliment.
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You make a lot of unwise assumptions. I for one have respected all people and have made a point of asking them how they wished to called, as in the early 70's an Asian couple move in next to me. I introduced myself and he told me his name. I asked him how to pronounce it as it was a very long Asian name I'd never heard of and he said 'Sam'. I gave him a strange look and then he explained. Where he worked nobody could pronounce his name so he was called 'Sambo' shortened to Sam and was in no way was there any racial discrimination there, merely a nickname which in those days was the norm.

Many years later a Caribbean gentleman moved next to me, following the same procedure he wanted to be called Andy, no problem.

I don't misjudge people and get things wrong as you state but I do use my lifelong experience to get things right. If there is a subject I know little or nothing about I ask.

In fact, I have an interesting question and I'm sure many on here will have an appropriate answer.

What do you call morons who have no respect for the elderly, who have not got the brains to realise that they, more than likely, will be in that age group one day?



Was it yourself or the Asian gentleman who considered there to be no element of racism in his nickname of Sam, shortened from Sambo?


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