Grimsby Town appeal against relegation

There’s not one of us who would not accept staying in the league, however stinky in the way it might happen.

What would happen to us if we go down but because of the shambles and litigation the National League goes bust halfway through the season? We would be left with no league to play in and no chance of getting back into the league.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

There’s not one of us who would not accept staying in the league, however stinky in the way it might happen.

Actually you're wrong.
If its a case of us or them then I say we should rightfullly go down.
Iie if Torquay win the NL they come up, we go down. If there is a way we can stay up without them being effected then I say YES PLEASE!

Quoted from lukeo

Actually you're wrong.
If its a case of us or them then I say we should rightfullly go down.
Iie if Torquay win the NL they come up, we go down. If there is a way we can stay up without them being effected then I say YES PLEASE!

There's absolutely no way that any scenario here can end without promotion from the National League. Club's voted to continue and accrue costs on the basis that they could be promoted; reneging on that would rightly and vehemently be challenged legally, with a successful outcome I would imagine. But no one's going to play that card.

The only argument to be had is that it is unjust to relegate clubs into a division which has issues over both its stability and integrity, given that there is to be no relegation for clubs in that league this season. It's a very thin argument, and one I don't expect to be successful, but in the highly unlikely event that it were come to pass it would be effectively 'victimless'. Except, perhaps, for whoever finishes third bottom over the course of the next two seasons, which is one area where the proposed 'solution' already starts to unravel.

Quoted from marinerdazza

The NL is a complete shambles and has lost its integrity.

We were by some margin the worst team in the league and deserve to go down.

I don't know how you reconcile these two facts.

This is the problem, in a nutshell. Just because we're challenging the EFL and NL, and asking the question, it doesn't mean we're claiming that we don't deserve to go down. I'm sure both Grimsby and Southend will hold their hands up and say, based on football results, we are the two worst clubs and so deserve to finish 23rd and 24th.

But do we deserve to be relegated into a division that has potentially broken its own rules, and whose integrity has been called into serious question? That's the argument.

I don't like the idea of us staying up on a technicality, or whatever you want to call it, and be known like Stevenage as benefiting from a reprieve. I don't think any of us are comfortable with that.

But let's say we are successful, and that means Torquay, Sutton or whoever can't come up. Those clubs, and their fans, shouldn't be directing any frustration at us and Southend; it should be 100% at the competition, which allowed a situation to evolve that should never have happened. It's all on the NL board (and maybe a bit on the EFL, who should have sought more clarity at what it would mean for the bottom two of the 72.

Anyway, let me reiterate - I don't feel entirely comfortable about the idea of benefiting from this appeal, and I fully acknowledge that we deserve to be relegated on results.

Best case scenario - we win the case, stay up, but feel a bit awkward about it.

Worst case - we lose the case, start next season in the NL, which is still governed by idiots.

Nah - it won't happen.
Safend & Us were the 2 worst teams over the season.
Bite the bullet & accept the situation - fair & square.
Start now to prepare for next season in the NL with the feel good factor most of us now have.

Embaressing!

They need to tell us what's going on here. It this is a result of the old regime, fair enough. If it's the new owners though, they need to explain this decision surely? We don't even know if this is true yet, do we?

This problem started months ago by us and the NL. Our problem was we failed to get enough points to stay up and on merit should go down under a normal situation.

The NL problem was and still is they started to run a two-tier National League when they announced no relegation. There became no incentive, whatsoever, for teams in the lower half to perform well on the pitch. Win or lose they were going nowhere and became bullied by the NL board to fulfil the fixture list.

Teams at the top have spent to try to get promotion and you have to wonder what their finances will be like next year if they don't get promoted. The NL this year is a mockery of bad governance and the FA should tell them that. Likewise, the EFL should also get to grips with the NL and tell them no promotion this year you bend your own rules too much.

I'm on the fence with this one.

I see both sides of the arugments.

We have been poor most of the season. We are lucky to have the finances to compete in the National League as opposed to a lot of clubs down there.

On the other side, it can be seen as unfair for NL to have no relegations yet allow promotions.

Again, the counter arguement to that would be that promotions from league to should also be banned...

However. It should be based on whether a club finantially depends on staying up, to which we do not... Currently...