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arryarryarry
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And I have to say, the right decision.
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And I have to say, the right decision.


However if the EFL turn round and say “you are not going down” I’m sure we’d graciously accept wouldn’t we?


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The right thing to do


Is it in the best interest of the club, which is what they're there to do?

I get that they want to distance themselves from the old board and come across as doing the right thing, but I don't see this being the right thing at all.

The NL clubs can hardly complain about it. They voted for the same thing, and any club that gets promotion taken away from them has ultimately had to suffer the same fate as they put the smaller clubs under when they voted to continue ie losing money for absolutely nothing
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However if the EFL turn round and say “you are not going down” I’m sure we’d graciously accept wouldn’t we?


For sure. It would feel a lot better that way though. I dunno, it didn't feel right us appealing. We were excrement, the club was a farce top to bottom. We deserve to go down, as much as I'm really not looking forward to a South-heavy league that's a fornicator to get out of.
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Is it in the best interest of the club, which is what they're there to do?

I get that they want to distance themselves from the old board and come across as doing the right thing, but I don't see this being the right thing at all.

The NL clubs can hardly complain about it. They voted for the same thing, and any club that gets promotion taken away from them has ultimately had to suffer the same fate as they put the smaller clubs under when they voted to continue ie losing money for absolutely nothing


Yes it is the best thing...we were the worst team in the football league. The more we find out the more we realise that it was a farce, the club was a joke and therefore we deserve to go down.

We can cry bottom all we want about the state of the conference but in truth the appeal would never have worked or been successful.

Should the EFL/conference decide otherwise in our absence then so be it but we all know that’s unlikely.

The new owners have made the right call and have done so with the best interest of the club...why pursue something that will inevitably turn out to be unsuccessful when that time, money and effort can be spent elsewhere on rectifying the years of intercourse ups and strategies to move us forward?

It’s hard to imagine the club doing that though, we’re used to the club pursuing things that are futile...PP anyone?


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“As soon as they’ve done that they could have announced that the teams finished bottom start next season with a points deduction. That would have maintained the integrity of the league.” About 20 seconds in.

So I was right about what he said. I don’t know how you can miss that EY.

And you can’t get much less competitive than a team completely ceasing to play.


Again, you're missing the point. I'm not disputing what Cowling said. I just see it as a total nonsense. In seeking to maintain so-called integrity this season, the proposal would effectively distort the integrity of the league next season for no valid disciplinary reason. As far as I'm concerned, it's not credible and I'd question whether it would be legal either. At least our club has had the good sense to now bow to reality.
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Irrelevant now.

The board have agreed to stop the appeal.


Does this have anything to do with Day’s rapid exit?



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Does this have anything to do with Day’s rapid exit?



I wondered that as well. Listening to RH yesterday afternoon in discussion with a Trustee board member (I can't remember her name) I believe she suggested that the decision to appeal was made by Fenty and Day and not the new owners.
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Again, you're missing the point. I'm not disputing what Cowling said. I just see it as a total nonsense. In seeking to maintain so-called integrity this season, the proposal would effectively distort the integrity of the league next season for no valid disciplinary reason. As far as I'm concerned, it's not credible and I'd question whether it would be legal either. At least our club has had the good sense to now bow to reality.


EY: What I don't understand is why he thinks deducting points from teams at the bottom of the National League is justified.

KM: He was saying if the sides at the bottom knew they would have points deducted next season, they would have had something to play got this season despite there being no relegation.

EY:  Points deductions imply the clubs on the receiving end have broken the rules in some way. Taking Dover out of the equation, given their case is pending, I don't see what rules the clubs in what would have been the National League's relegation places have broken. So I don't see the justification for it. It's not the National League clubs' fault that the North and South voted for null and void.

KM: It wasn’t suggested as a punishment. What he was saying is that when the NL voted to end relegation this season, they should have retained some jeopardy for the teams who otherwise would’ve been at risk of going down, to make sure that all teams continued to be competitive.

EY: But even if you're right, and having listened to the clip several times I don't think you are

If that doesn’t mean that you didn’t understand what Cowling said, I don’t know what does. We can all disagree on the essential arguments, but you clearly did not understand what the guy was saying.


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