Grimsby Town appeal against relegation

I don’t have any inside info (are you watching Philipe) but could the reason behind this be that if we appeal on the grounds of the Conference potentially going pop, then next year it does actually go pop we can make a case for promotion notwithstanding. It’d be difficult for the EFL to refuse to promote a side who could say we told you that this was going to happen but you relegated us anyway, now it has you can’t stop us from coming back up.

Sad ploy by whomever - take the hit, come back stronger, earn the right to be there !!

UTM.

Quoted from acko338

Sad ploy by whomever - take the hit, come back stronger, earn the right to be there !!

UTM.

With the greatest respect, that is not the point we are making.

If we are in a league which due to the incompetence of its ruling body implodes because too many clubs were forced into financial difficulties, how do we come back stronger? What mechanism would there be for us to get back into the league?

This is not just any old league that has hit financial difficulties, its difficulties are directly attributable to its governing body. If several of the clubs cannot sustain the debt incurred, who is going to bail them out for the league to be viable?

A lot of ifs and buts, but it is most definitely worth asking the question. Knowing our luck we would be sailing along top of the league (keeping our part of the bargain to bounce back) only for the league to collapse. We surely need some reassurance that the league will be able to complete next season whatever the circumstances at the very least?

Is it about time that the national league became the fifth division of the EFL?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

With the greatest respect, that is not the point we are making.

If we are in a league which due to the incompetence of its ruling body implodes because too many clubs were forced into financial difficulties, how do we come back stronger? What mechanism would there be for us to get back into the league?

This is not just any old league that has hit financial difficulties, its difficulties are directly attributable to its governing body. If several of the clubs cannot sustain the debt incurred, who is going to bail them out for the league to be viable?

A lot of ifs and buts, but it is most definitely worth asking the question. Knowing our luck we would be sailing along top of the league (keeping our part of the bargain to bounce back) only for the league to collapse. We surely need some reassurance that the league will be able to complete next season whatever the circumstances at the very least?

Don't often disagree with you, but not sure how you can use those points as a reason for not going down when they are the exact reasons we are.

A league has to have integrity and competence to govern. The NL has had neither this season, Dover has stopped playing and the rest of the teams are doing what they like. Those wanting promotion have been bullying for the league to continue, those who want to survive with no chance of promotion are playing with no ambition and weaken teams; players being furloughed to save money.

The board is not competent to run a league as they misled clubs into thinking that further grants would be available. They let Dover stop playing and took no notice of clubs' financial positions insisting that they take loans, which Dover pointed out are against the laws drawn up by the NL. Also, they have taken no stance in players being furloughed to save money when the player's occupation, defender, etc. is being used. Finally, many NL clubs have signed a letter of no confidence in the board.

The NL has been a complete and utter mess since Christmas and no club, beit Town or Southend, from L2 should be allowed to relegate to it this season. The EFL and FA should sort the mess out and not watch from their ivory towers.

I think your final sentence nails it there DB.  More so for the EFL than the FA (who have very little power).

The EFL watched on whilst the NL went to pot this season.  It's nothing new that two teams go down and two teams come up from it, they should have been sticking their nose in right from the off.

Instead they were too busy licking the boots of the Project Big Picture mob, hoping a couple of extra crumbs fell off the table.  

The FA have authority over the NL DHM. The League have no jurisdiction. But we know the FA will do FA.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

The FA have authority over the NL DHM. The League have no jurisdiction. But we know the FA will do FA.

Could be because their man Barwick, who was the FA chief exec. is still chairman of the NL until his resignation comes into force. Not going to hammer one of their own, are they!

  This is certainly straw clutching, but if you're hanging over a cliff it's not unreasonable to clutch at any straw you can get your hands on. If by some miracle this worked I don't think anyone would complain. A 26 team League 2 for a season is certainly doable. Those who say we might actually be better off getting relegated and rebuilding from the National League seem to be assuming that promotion back to the Football League would be a formality within a year, or two at the most. Perhaps they should ask Wrexham supporters what their views are on that.