Grimsby Town appeal against relegation

Must admit I’m a bit torn on this at the minute.

However it is an argument I was pushing back in January that would undoubtedly come up whoever gets relegated.l, on one of our many long running NL threads.

For me, there is no harm in simply asking a question. It is for others to decide, not GTFC or Southend.

There is most certainly a valid argument to be had in terms of league integrity.

The EFL have their own rules on relegating clubs out of their structure in to a league with no sporting integrity. So they must rule on that.

So I think that’s the crux of the issue.

Do the EFL believe a NL with scores of furloughed players and volunteers in their place, an arguable breach of their own funding rules and no competition re relegation form enough of a concern regards sporting integrity?

I know my opinion, on balance is probably yes it does. However the EFL are another matter.

In terms of caring if we stay up on a technicality I’d like to think I would care about that. But know I’m probably like most fans and will have forgotten about that in 5 minutes.

The debate about no promotion/relegation within the EFL is abit of a red herring.

League two is part of EFL structure of leagues. So it’s slightly different and not comparable to this situation.  

Even if it was, there was no cancellation of relegation pre the end of the season so there’s no competition argument.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

It’s not about blame. It’s about whether there is a secure league to go into.

Of course it's about blame. We shoudn't have been in this position of facing relegation to the National League.

Imagine for whatever reason they allow us to stay in the FL then us and Southend get promoted to league 1.. Imagine the uproar from other teams 😂

Quoted from arryarryarry

Of course it's about blame. We shoudn't have been in this position of facing relegation to the National League.

No. You’re missing the point about reasons for the appeal. It’s not blaming anyone for our relegation.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Of course it's about blame. We shoudn't have been in this position of facing relegation to the National League.

I think it's two different arguments. I totally agree with you that we should not have been put into this position by Fenty, but this is whether the league we have been relegated to is stable enough.

Imagine next season we are sailing along nicely at Xmas, top of the league maybe and then the  NL folds because clubs have taken on too much debt that the NL insisted on. Then what would happen? Up a creek without a paddle.

In any event, we have got to ask the question.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I think it's two different arguments. I totally agree with you that we should not have been put into this position by Fenty, but this is whether the league we have been relegated to is stable enough.

Imagine next season we are sailing along nicely at Xmas, top of the league maybe and then the  NL folds because clubs have taken on too much debt that the NL insisted on. Then what would happen? Up a creek without a paddle.

In any event, we have got to ask the question.

I think the real concern is if there has to be a ban on fans again in the winter. What happens then?

And I said this months ago...

The EFL should not be relegating anyone to the NL unless there is a concrete plan and guaranteed funding for the 2021/22 season if the worst happens and it's no fans again.

We totally deserve to be relegated, of course we do, but not one of us would argue if our appeal was successful, would we?

the league doesn't lie we should go down

But we are entering a structure that is not well run and seems to make it's own rules as they go along this creates CHAOS  I'm afraid  no clear rules and a state of uncertainty

UN professional, lets face it we've had a club badly run why should we accept a badly run league haven't we been through and suffered enough

Can't see reprieve but at least the EFL are reminded our fears  UTM

Quoted from GollyGTFC

That's a great idea, but where's the extra TV money for L3 going to come from? L2 clubs get around £475,000 a season.

And are the PL going to expand their solidarity payments to cover another division?

League 2 might get that money but it's for other divisions being on TV, a televised match in the lower two divisions is a rarety, even in these days of blanket football on TV. L1, L2 and L3 could negotiate their own TV deal, I can't pretend to know what it would bring in financially but it would be a lot more attractive to the fans of lower divisions sides than the current offering of incessant Prem and Champ games. The National League coverage shows there is a market for lower league football, and there are some far larger areas of population spread over the 96 clubs than just the NL Prem that BT sport cover.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

No. You’re missing the point about reasons for the appeal. It’s not blaming anyone for our relegation.

No, you are missing my point, whatever happens to the National League, if it all goes mammaries up whilst we are in it, don't blame them blame the twits who took us down.

I think we look like twits even appealing.