Jesus Christ

Quoted from DB

Up to a point I agree, but then you have private practice a paid for service which goes directly to the consultant. Also it is finding it harder to get a NHS dentist but private dental health care is easy  obtainable.

So any private practitioner is doing it solely for greed and not, perhaps, because they disagree with the system in which they would be forced to work under for the NHS?

Quoted from Sandford1981

Carl Rogers did more than employ techniques. His existence and work  was entirely based upon and dedicated to his beliefs. Incidentally he was a very spiritual person too and combined different religious philosophies alongside more empirically testable psychological principles.
Person centred counselling is based upon a holistic approach that looks well beyond the presenting symptoms and treats a person as a whole rather than 1 aspect of them.

Yes valid points. I note as well that Carl Rodgers was once an atheist but then became agnostic so credit to him. All Iam saying is warmth of  soul goes a long way to healing people and if health professionals have some sort of belief in the divine they take it up a notch.

Wow! The God delusion is strong.

I'm out.

Quoted from Rick12

Yes valid points. I note as well that Carl Rodgers was once a atheist but then became agnostic so credit to him. All Iam saying is warmth of  soul goes a long way to healing people and if health professionals have some sort of belief in the divine they take it up a notch.

I studied Carl Rogers and person centred counselling for 2 years at university. Hence my indignation that somehow a psychologist and counsellor cannot be spiritual too. Rogers was all of those things. There are a great many parallels between his counselling philosophy and religious principles from different persuasions too.

Most of the counsellors I have worked with, been taught by or have encountered have very deep spirituality. Most combine several different strands of counselling and psychology to most effectively treat their clients. A high majority of them also get paid to do their work which allows them to provide for themselves and their families alongside carrying out free work for charities and organisations.

Does counselling work for some?
Definitely.
Does it work for all?
Definitely not.

In this sense then, it is very similar to religion and religious spirituality.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Ooops, I might have put this on the wrong thread.  

You could always post  'What a friend we have in Jesus'

Just a thought

Quoted from mariner91

So any private practitioner is doing it solely for greed and not, perhaps, because they disagree with the system in which they would be forced to work under for the NHS?

I never said or insinuated that. I was merely making an observation from your earlier post.

Quoted from DB

You could always post  'What a friend we have in Jesus'

Just a thought

Well he's never bought me a bloody pint!

Quoted from DB

I never said or insinuated that. I was merely making an observation from your earlier post.

Then what point do you think you were trying to make? Private practice doesn’t go directly to the consultant or clinician either, it’s insanely ignorant to think that. You said it’s easier to find a private dentist than an NHS one when challenged that healthcare workers don’t do it solely for the money, are you suggesting that this is evidence that they only do their job because they want cash?

Quoted from Les Brechin

Ooops, I might have put this on the wrong thread.  

Not seen this previously. Brilliant Les!

Quoted from mariner91

Then what point do you think you were trying to make? Private practice doesn’t go directly to the consultant or clinician either, it’s insanely ignorant to think that. You said it’s easier to find a private dentist than an NHS one when challenged that healthcare workers don’t do it solely for the money, are you suggesting that this is evidence that they only do their job because they want cash?

I know of a dental case where a person was charged about £250 NHS. Same practise, same dentist and same dental work done privately was listed at about £1,700? So what was the extra £1,350 being charged for?

Mariner as much as I respect your views I opened this thread to be about Jesus Christ. We seem to have diversified massively from it so I will not be answering any more of your questions on this thread on the NHS etc. If you wish to open your own thread on your topic then I will willingly discuss it their.