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Nothing to do with the tooth fairy .Its to do with what was there before which gave rise to the big bang. For me that is God whilst others think its chance. As noted had I not seen what I had when young I would have been a agnostic so again I sympathise with your view.
As for Adam and Eve I think that's more of a symbolic story created by ancient man. We all evolved from Africa when nature was in balance. Humans came and some affected the natural delicate balance of it all through greed and power eg chopping down the rainforests, overfishing and so forth.
I think religion comes from one heart eg somehow tied to into good . I dont feel no religion has all the answers. Its why there are/have been different strands of religious thought all around the world since humans evolved culminating now in the main 5 which are Hinduism ,Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Sikhism .Its mans attempt to understand something that is essentially above all of us even science. Its why now I take something from all faiths as I think all have truths to them.
Peace and love to you Rick.
I accept that mankind more than likely evolved from Africa before over time spreading generation after generation right across the globe What I don't understand so much is that the Americas were isolated for such a long long time until they were colonised by Europeans who brought over their religions with them IF there is one omnipotent power then why didn't the indigenous populations of the Americas worship the same god(s) as those in the so called developed world? If European and Middle Eastern civilisation hadn't developed as it did and then crossed the Atlantic in the middle ages, then would there be millions of people on the American continent who (had they not been discovered and educated to the settlers beliefs) would literally be living in ignorance of how folk on the other side of the world worship their god(s)? |
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I accept that mankind more than likely evolved from Africa before over time spreading generation after generation right across the globe
What I don't understand so much is that the Americas were isolated for such a long long time until they were colonised by Europeans who brought over their religions with them
IF there is one omnipotent power then why didn't the indigenous populations of the Americas worship the same god(s) as those in the so called developed world?
If European and Middle Eastern civilisation hadn't developed as it did and then crossed the Atlantic in the middle ages, then would there be millions of people on the American continent who (had they not been discovered and educated to the settlers beliefs) would literally be living in ignorance of how folk on the other side of the world worship their god(s)?
Some Native American tribes did believe in a creator though not all. Likwisewise there were other religions present in South America and notably one were animal sacrifice was used. Morgan Freeman in his programme the story of God touched on this as well.Some of if not the earliest religions stemmed from the native American Indians where archaeologists found drawings in a cave depicting a high and low life similiar to the Christian/Islamic view of heaven and hell. |
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I accept that mankind more than likely evolved from Africa before over time spreading generation after generation right across the globe
What I don't understand so much is that the Americas were isolated for such a long long time until they were colonised by Europeans who brought over their religions with them
IF there is one omnipotent power then why didn't the indigenous populations of the Americas worship the same god(s) as those in the so called developed world?
If European and Middle Eastern civilisation hadn't developed as it did and then crossed the Atlantic in the middle ages, then would there be millions of people on the American continent who (had they not been discovered and educated to the settlers beliefs) would literally be living in ignorance of how folk on the other side of the world worship their god(s)?
And add in the fact that the Abrahamic faiths didn’t even become the dominant religions in Europe and the Middle East until the early Middle Ages, let alone all those Hindus, Buddhists, Animistic religions, Shintoism, etc in Asia, Africa, the Americas. |
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In the olden days when people were generally ignorant of most things religion gave them hope and a bit of understanding on what the world was about.
When Jesus was born America had not been discovered and people not only thought the earth was flat but it was the centre of the universe.
It's a pity Jesus who must have known this did not say anything.
Maybe he did not know and was not the son of god.
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In the olden days when people were generally ignorant of most things religion gave them hope and a bit of understanding on what the world was about.
When Jesus was born America had not been discovered and people not only thought the earth was flat but it was the centre of the universe.
It's a pity Jesus who must have known this did not say anything.
Maybe he did not know and was not the son of god.
It is fair to say that America was “discovered “ and inhabited for thousands of years before either Columbus or Christianity, it’s a bit of myth the Earth was thought of as flat by any with basic scientific knowledge |
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In the olden days when people were generally ignorant of most things religion gave them hope and a bit of understanding on what the world was about.
When Jesus was born America had not been discovered and people not only thought the earth was flat but it was the centre of the universe.
It's a pity Jesus who must have known this did not say anything.
Maybe he did not know and was not the son of God.
The situation is that as modern technology increases and inventiveness carries on, what happened in the past becomes even harder to understand and accept. To put into perspective would anyone in the 1950s believe that you would be able to talk into a piece of plastic to somebody on the other side of the world! Tell someone in the 1910s an aircraft would take off from a ship at over 500mph and land back on the ship! In the war of the Roses, tell someone a canon would send a shell miles away and accurately destroy a target, every time! It has hard for us to accept things that happened 1,000's of years ago, just as hard as it is for others in the future to accept what we do today. |
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It is fair to say that America was “discovered “ and inhabited for thousands of years before either Columbus or Christianity, it’s a bit of myth the Earth was thought of as flat by any with basic scientific knowledge
Indeed. Didn’t one of those Ancient Greeks accurately calculate the size of the Earth as a sphere? Columbus wouldn’t have set off on his first journey across the Atlantic if he’d thought the Earth was flat. He was trying to get to the East Indies by going west, so knew perfectly well that the Earth was round. |
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I was not talking about the time of exploring our planet I was saying in Jesus life .
Being the son of god he should have known how the universe was set out.
There was little science knowledge about in those times.
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Depends how he thought it best to use his time. Advance knowledge and provide the base for improved technology, enabling people to intercourse the world up quicker, or teach people how to lead better lives? Not that people paid/pay that much attention to what he said/supposedly said anyway.
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I was not talking about the time of exploring our planet I was saying in Jesus life .
Being the son of god he should have known how the universe was set out.
There was little science knowledge about in those times.
This would mean that if Jesus had told anybody then nobody would have believed him, what's more, most were not educated either. |
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