Jesus Christ

Utter nonsense in my opinion. Entitled to your view but I find it a ridiculous one, sorry.

Quoted from fishboyUTM

Utter nonsense in my opinion. Entitled to your view but I find it a ridiculous one, sorry.

Do I believe in the resurrection ?. I would like to but my head  says the disciples of Jesus  experienced something figuratively in their mind and some may have indeed thought they saw  Jesus. You cant know for sure unless you was there.

Watching something interesting at the moment on netflix titled the story of God with Morgan Freeman. If you havent already worth a watch but its leaving netflix soon. Academics feel  the ideas for the Abrahamic faith's stemmed in part  from Zorocrastism. A faith that believes in a divine creator and sees life as a battle between good v bad always going in your mind. Morgan Freeman also cites this as the faith he most ascribes to after having done the programme.

I have already provided proof of the disciple Peter, the first Pope. Peter did live and in Bible Peter 1 chapter 3 he writes :-

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
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That is the proof.

Quoted from DB

I have already provided proof of the disciple Peter, the first Pope. Peter did live and in Bible Peter 1 chapter 3 he writes :-

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
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That is the proof.

That is not prove DB but if you want to believe that is up to you.

One thing is certain if there is nothing after we die neither you nor I will be disappointed .

Quoted from DB

I have already provided proof of the disciple Peter, the first Pope. Peter did live and in Bible Peter 1 chapter 3 he writes :-

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
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That is the proof.

Again, hearsay.

Quoted from ginnywings

Again, hearsay.

Several years ago I read about a book by two Dutch authors which was entitled something like 'The Greatest Events of the 20th Century'. They didn't mention WW1 or WW2!!!

These events did happen, we all know that. Although these events affected the lives of most on the planet the authors didn't deem them to be great events.

We live in a world of instant communication, watch events as they happen. In the times of Jesus Christ, it was very, very different. The proof is sometimes hard to come by but the life of Peter, the first Pope, is recorded proof of his existence.

Today you either believe in Jesus or you don't. If you do great, if you don't then that is your choice and I am pleased for you and respect your choice.

Quoted from ginnywings

Hearsay.

Heresy  

Quoted from BlackandWhiteBarmy2

Heresy  

Proof is a funny word when considering religion, in this case, Christianity.

Whilst I think the whole thing is twaddle and a story that got terribly out of hand, the fundamental premise of being a good person, kind and conscientious and so forth isn’t exactly difficult to follow.

There are smatterings of proof regarding scripture, the people and even a possibility that a chap called Jesus or similar did roam the planet back then.  We know that the bible is fundamentally and allegory, not be read as fact, more a guide, allegorical messages intended to help people have faith and provide life guidance.

I while back on one of my many occasions in Italy a local who had denounced Catholicism provided me a copy of a book/article that explored the idea that the Catholic Church has one of the largest research/archeological budgets in the world but uses little of it. Not because there’s nothing to explore but because there’s a risk that they uncover nothing or indeed proof it’s all fake...that ruins the religion and all those people who need faith lose it.

Like I say, places have proved that things do indeed support statements made in the bible.

My own interpretation is that it’s purely about personal belief and faith. 6/700 years ago religion helped control the masses, we have other ways of doing that now.

In post modern society, a society that is arguably more self aware, religion is primarily used to guide and offer solace. Faith and a sense of community in a somewhat community-less environment.

It’s a personal choice and should remain that way...I take the positives with actually feeling thr need to believe; it’s given us some amazing pieces of architecture...

Quoted from DB

Several years ago I read about a book by two Dutch authors which was entitled something like 'The Greatest Events of the 20th Century'. They didn't mention WW1 or WW2!!!

These events did happen, we all know that. Although these events affected the lives of most on the planet the authors didn't deem them to be great events.

We live in a world of instant communication, watch events as they happen. In the times of Jesus Christ, it was very, very different. The proof is sometimes hard to come by but the life of Peter, the first Pope, is recorded proof of his existence.

Today you either believe in Jesus or you don't. If you do great, if you don't then that is your choice and I am pleased for you and respect your choice.

Come on DB you’re clutching at straws WW1 and WW2 is factually recorded with video evidence witnessed by millions of people around the world.
Jesus resurrection was witnessed by his cult and lady of the night, it’s just pure fantasy, but I will echo Pete’s thoughts if that’s what you want to believe then carry on.
I would love to read some religious stuff that could get me thinking.....just maybe! But the truth is it’s just medieval fairy tales designed at a time to keep the near primitive god fearing population in check.