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Rodley Mariner
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Why ?  What did he say or do wrong today


I'm not sure acting outraged every time you're asked a question is a long term strategy for a Prime Minister.
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Why ?  What did he say or do wrong today


Watch it on catch up , see how many reasonable questions he refused to answer even with his earpiece,  He is all bluster lies and half truths, World beating track and trace, the only world beating statistic he can manage is old folks death rates, he has failed at every turn, too lazy to go to Cobra meetings, too late with shutdown, too late to impose quarantine and too arrogant to admit to any mistakes. Too weak to dismiss a man making a mockery of his lockdown policy. He has been found out, his waffle and buffoonery has seen us become a International laughing stock
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Watch it on catch up , see how many reasonable questions he refused to answer even with his earpiece,  He is all bluster lies and half truths, World beating track and trace, the only world beating statistic he can manage is old folks death rates, he has failed at every turn, too lazy to go to Cobra meetings, too late with shutdown, too late to impose quarantine and too arrogant to admit to any mistakes. Too weak to dismiss a man making a mockery of his lockdown policy. He has been found out, his waffle and buffoonery has seen us become a International laughing stock


Most politicians are all bluster lies and half truths.
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Just watching Channel 4 at the moment.

Dispatches..."Britain's Coronavirus Catastrophe".


Watched that earlier. It's very depressing to see the whole timeline presented like that. Any sort of inquiry will probably go the same way as that Russia meddling in our elections/referendum inquiry and get lost in Neverneverland.

Anyone else nostalgic for when the science chap at the daily conferences said that "20,000 dead would be a good outcome."?



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Watched that earlier. It's very depressing to see the whole timeline presented like that. Any sort of inquiry will probably go the same way as that Russia meddling in our elections/referendum inquiry and get lost in Neverneverland.

Anyone else nostalgic for when the science chap at the daily conferences said that "20,000 dead would be a good outcome."?



They are already getting in their excuses early.

We followed scientific advice...
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2 devastating programmes in quick succession tonight.The channel 4 programme already mentioned, which succinctly put together the Sunday Times insight report of a couple of weeks ago into a very manageable and understandable format. Followed by the Newsnight in-depth report on care homes, which was quite heartbreaking  as it was much more personal, but in a way much more hard hitting
The most shocking fact was the bit that the NHS needed tofree up bed space so 15,000  old timers were made to leave hospital and go into care homes ,without being tested, and so into the heart of a community which they already knew to be at extremely high risk.
Also very interesting was the amount of scientists at the heart of things who are already coming out and telling it how it was and is. I suspect a collective effort by the scientific community to make sure that their story is out there and on record before Johnson and Cummings start to turn the blame on them, which they will surely do.
One last point,  Boris n .dom are  building up quite an impressive alliance of angry, influential people who seem to be enraged by the government's approach, tardiness and inability to do anything very quickly or efficuently
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Why ?  What did he say or do wrong today


Well nothing as that twit Cummings was giving him all the answers through the earpiece



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No doubt Boris will get blamed for that as well.



I don't think he will because there are so many things he can legitimately be blamed for such as:
1. Not building up a PPE stock to deal with a pandemic
2. Failing to attend COBRA meetings during January and February which were to discuss the crisis.
3. Not building a proper testing capacity facility throughout February.
4. Going on telly and saying that he was shaking hands with coronavirus patients when the advice was to avoid hand shaking at all costs.
5. Allowing Cheltenham, Liverpool vs Athletico Madrid, Stereophonics Cardiff gig to go ahead.
6. Filming a video with the Deputy Chief Medical Officer saying it was fine to attend mass gatherings when all the evidence were that they were incredibly dangerous.
7. Abandoning Track and trace in early March.
8. Dithering over a lockdown - implementing it on March 23rd - later than virtually every other European country.
9. Failing to ramp up PPE production allowing our NHS staff to catch coronavirus and well over 100 people to die.
10. Forcing Care homes to accept residents back from hospitals without tests leading to an epidemic in care homes where 1 in 10 of all residents of care homes have died.
11.Messing up the "Stay Alert" broadcast causing mass confusion.
12. Blatantly lying to all over the "Cummings affair" undermining the public health message.
13. Introducing quarantine for foreign visitors three months after most other countries had done this.
14. Overseeing the worst death toll in Europe.
Yesterday total deaths in the UK was greater than total deaths in the rest of Europe. It has been a total fiasco from start to finish.
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I don't think he will because there are so many things he can legitimately be blamed for such as:
1. Not building up a PPE stock to deal with a pandemic
2. Failing to attend COBRA meetings during January and February which were to discuss the crisis.
3. Not building a proper testing capacity facility throughout February.
4. Going on telly and saying that he was shaking hands with coronavirus patients when the advice was to avoid hand shaking at all costs.
5. Allowing Cheltenham, Liverpool vs Athletico Madrid, Stereophonics Cardiff gig to go ahead.
6. Filming a video with the Deputy Chief Medical Officer saying it was fine to attend mass gatherings when all the evidence were that they were incredibly dangerous.
7. Abandoning Track and trace in early March.
8. Dithering over a lockdown - implementing it on March 23rd - later than virtually every other European country.
9. Failing to ramp up PPE production allowing our NHS staff to catch coronavirus and well over 100 people to die.
10. Forcing Care homes to accept residents back from hospitals without tests leading to an epidemic in care homes where 1 in 10 of all residents of care homes have died.
11.Messing up the "Stay Alert" broadcast causing mass confusion.
12. Blatantly lying to all over the "Cummings affair" undermining the public health message.
13. Introducing quarantine for foreign visitors three months after most other countries had done this.
14. Overseeing the worst death toll in Europe.
Yesterday total deaths in the UK was greater than total deaths in the rest of Europe. It has been a total fiasco from start to finish.


2 A - This is because most warehouses didn't have proper systems in place and operating from an excel spreadsheet (seen it first hand) but you know Boris will get blamed for that the stock in the warehouse was a travesty but we are slowly sorting that out.

5 A - was in Gloucester working onsite, when the covid 19 occurred by the time it was affecting people it was too late to cancel the festival.

A lot on that list is hindsight.  Yes we probably could have done better and so many people EXPECT us to be the leading country but I don't think Boris should be blamed for responsible adults not following the rules (and I don't have a problem, with DC travelling to his mums).




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I went to Italy its a scruffy place and they have a lot of elderly people (2nd highest apparently) hence why they have a thousand deaths UK has just 10 in 12k cases.

China etc everyone has mouth guards.


This post sums up your ignorance, we have passed scruffy Italy with flying colours and still have no grip on the virus, if you cannot see Boris and his advisers have failed or don’t want to it’s up to you but the cold facts speak for themselves, couldn’t cancel Cheltenham? Seriously

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