Coronavirus

Quoted from Posh Harry

According to the government up until now the use of public transport (apart from the occasional tube journey which the bbc like showing over and over again) is at approx 5% of normal so seen to not be needed but from the 15th this is likely to increase due to more schools and more retails outlets being open, so more people using the system, whether getting to school/work or going to the shops.

The funniest thing is Sadiq khan saying how angry he is that this was not brought in sooner and that it could have cost lives. It was then pointed out to him that, as London mayor, he had the powers to have made masks mandatory himself and didn’t need the government, to which he agreed. In fact he had threatened to do so in April, but didn’t do anything. Brilliant stuff mr Khan.

Thanks P.H. seems pretty clear from your explanation. Don't think anybody can dispute your post, although a few might try

Quoted from Stadium

'The scientific case for wearing masks is weak'
Matt Hancock April 28

'Face coverings will be mandatory on all public transport'
Govt June 4

Does this still include social distancing, if not then surely the same could be used at a footy match?

There’s not a chance footy’s being played in front of a crowd for an extended period of time (masks and gloves(?!) worn or not) so get used to it.

Quoted from LH

There’s not a chance footy’s being played in front of a crowd for an extended period of time (masks and gloves(?!) worn or not) so get used to it.

But the Government told us there was little chance of infection in outdoor crowds before the Cheltenham festival and was not worried enough about the threat of transmission at football or concerts to let them go ahead until after their own bodies closed them down.

Quoted from codcheeky

But the Government told us there was little chance of infection in outdoor crowds before the Cheltenham festival and was not worried enough about the threat of transmission at football or concerts to let them go ahead until after their own bodies closed them down.

All your posts are boring as ......

Everybody is learning . Some people should learn to listen to the explanations given . Things change at different times so procedures and views have to change except those applying to bigots

How about using your own common sense and not waiting to be told by the higher powers ? It was obvious to me that Cheltenham should never have gone ahead and it’s obvious that travelling on the tube wasn’t a good idea . I think some people would struggle to survive if there was a breakdown in government on a national or local scale !!

It's all because any kind of "planning" and I use that in the very loosest sense of the word, appears to have been done on the hoof, with little or no thought given to anyone it might effect. The classic case, was the "re-opening of England" the night before by Johnson, without any forewarning to business, emergency services, businesses, employees etc. I normally cringe away as as soon as I hear anyone mention the word strategy because it's usually a forerunner to some kind of gibberish, however, the government really does need to have some kind of strategic overview that is easy for folk to understand. People understand boundaries imposed on them - see your disciplinary procedure at work for example - and abide by them, by and large. The nation as a whole responded brilliantly to the lockdown, when it came, although many millions had already self isolated long before the edict from government came on March 23rd.

We have our own problems north of the border, but the one thing that has come though is the First Minister fronting every single news brieifing daily. The messages have been very clear, and concise, and easy to follow. She hasn't shirked away from her responsibilities and given it to some poor sap in the cabinet to take the flak. We might not always like what we hear, but we understand it, and by and large, comply with it. The difference in the two leaders is stark, and there's a very clear message there for Westminster if you want to get people to abide by any proclamation you deliver, make sure it's intelligible, make sure there's a reason for it, and make sure folk can see it's part of a much bigger plan.

Quoted from jock dock tower

It's all because any kind of "planning" and I use that in the very loosest sense of the word, appears to have been done on the hoof, with little or no thought given to anyone it might effect. The classic case, was the "re-opening of England" the night before by Johnson, without any forewarning to business, emergency services, businesses, employees etc. I normally cringe away as as soon as I hear anyone mention the word strategy because it's usually a forerunner to some kind of gibberish, however, the government really does need to have some kind of strategic overview that is easy for folk to understand. People understand boundaries imposed on them - see your disciplinary procedure at work for example - and abide by them, by and large. The nation as a whole responded brilliantly to the lockdown, when it came, although many millions had already self isolated long before the edict from government came on March 23rd.

We have our own problems north of the border, but the one thing that has come though is the First Minister fronting every single news brieifing daily. The messages have been very clear, and concise, and easy to follow. She hasn't shirked away from her responsibilities and given it to some poor sap in the cabinet to take the flak. We might not always like what we hear, but we understand it, and by and large, comply with it. The difference in the two leaders is stark, and there's a very clear message there for Westminster if you want to get people to abide by any proclamation you deliver, make sure it's intelligible, make sure there's a reason for it, and make sure folk can see it's part of a much bigger plan.

Scotland hasn't done anything wildly different to England, apart from Sturgeon's posturing to suit her political agenda.

England has a population many times the size of Scotland and many huge urban connurbations that has made life difficult for our government.

I find Sturgeon a rather comical figure with her Braveheart rhetoric but each to their own.

I have always been for a United Kingdom but would rather like to see an independent Scotland and marvel at how it would manage without English money and how it would be received by the EU who already have enough members who contribute absolutely nothing.

Quoted from Stadium

'The scientific case for wearing masks is weak'
Matt Hancock April 28

'Face coverings will be mandatory on all public transport'
Govt June 4

Said it at the beginning but we are being guided by stock levels, not science.