Coronavirus

39045  minus  111  is 38489  - I went to Eton. what school did you go to

Quoted from golfer

39045  minus  111  is 38489  - I went to Eton. what school did you go to

Indeed too important a day to spoil with a higher deaths figure. That no one in the press even mentioned it shows how the Government are being held to account by our hard hitting free press

To show how badly our Government is handling the pandemic the UK is one of only 2 countries the Czech Government has classified as high risk for their travelers.

Watchdog once again criticises statistics reporting.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-.....n-coronavirus-tests/

Playing an absolute blinder in the Commons today. Great that we've now got democracy impeded and 600+ people travelling unnecessarily into Central London so Johnson has a crowd to perform for.

Don't know if anyone can answer 2 questions.

Firstly has any country actually had a second spike? I know there have been localised spikes in Singapore and korea, but you'd have expected Italy and China to have had second spikes by now
Secondly I was told that if you examine most countries graphs of covid cases they are basically similar and it's starting to look like a '100 day wonder'. I.e. It's really bad for 3 months and then seems to blow itself out

Quoted from forza ivano

Don't know if anyone can answer 2 questions.

Firstly has any country actually had a second spike? I know there have been localised spikes in Singapore and korea, but you'd have expected Italy and China to have had second spikes by now
Secondly I was told that if you examine most countries graphs of covid cases they are basically similar and it's starting to look like a '100 day wonder'. I.e. It's really bad for 3 months and then seems to blow itself out

Some people think Sweden is going through a second spike, but it's probably more of a plateau. You wouldn't expect to see a second spike now. This coronavirus is part of a family of diseases that cause many of the common colds. They are much less transmissible in the summer, but return in the winter. The worry isn't really that over the summer we get a second spike, its more that it bubbles away and returns in the winter. This is generally the pattern Flu (different virus) pandemics of the 20th century followed. With Spanish Flu, the second spike was much deadlier than the first.  

Quoted from horsforthmariner

Some people think Sweden is going through a second spike, but it's probably more of a plateau. You wouldn't expect to see a second spike now. This coronavirus is part of a family of diseases that cause many of the common colds. They are much less transmissible in the summer, but return in the winter. The worry isn't really that over the summer we get a second spike, its more that it bubbles away and returns in the winter. This is generally the pattern Flu (different virus) pandemics of the 20th century followed. With Spanish Flu, the second spike was much deadlier than the first.  

Interesting. Why then are we being sold the idea that a second spike will occur within a few weeks, If we ease off too quickly? Trying to scare us into complying?

Quoted from forza ivano

Interesting. Why then are we being sold the idea that a second spike will occur within a few weeks, If we ease off too quickly? Trying to scare us into complying?

I thinks it's basically maths. There are two key numbers: Total number of people infected & rate of infection (R rate) - If you mutliply these two figures together you can model the growth of the virus. In the summer the R rate goes down giving you the opportunity to reduce the total infection rate. Come October when the R rate will go back up you want to be starting at a lower number of total infections so that you have best chance to do track and trace.