Coronavirus

Quoted from codcheeky

World’s highest death rate per head, absolutely shameful

Second highest. If you are going to get emotive get it right.

Sweden well down the list who did little and relied on herd immunity. That was the approach Boris was taking until the loony left and biased media forced him to change tactics. They should take a lot of responsibility for the high death rate

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

Lions led by donkeys - AJP Taylor

Which is a trifle unkind.

Your average donkey not only having a greater IQ than Boris Johnson but being a damn sight more reliable, honest,  hard working and trustworthy

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I don't need to explain it as it is not exercising me and I am not bothered what he did.

The police aren't taking it further because it is a non story.

It isn’t a non-story though.

A lot of my age group (and younger) are now saying, “Fcuk it. If they aren’t willing to follow the rules, why should I?!”, and if they have to tighten the rules again, follow any sort of rules or make test, track, trace and tango isolation mandatory, the poor police will have no hope of enforcing it.

So it does matter.

The police are understandably not taking it further. Quite right. But he should be sacked (or resign) and the PM and the cabinet reprimanded for concocting such a pack of lies and then trying to justify it to the public.

Quoted from realist

Second highest. If you are going to get emotive get it right.

Sweden well down the list who did little and relied on herd immunity. That was the approach Boris was taking until the loony left and biased media forced him to change tactics. They should take a lot of responsibility for the high death rate

Or the experts advising the government maybe??

https://www.politico.eu/articl.....ntific-adviser-says/

Loony left is an odd turn of phrase...it’s neither an insult nor a positive, literally a nothing phrase...

Side note, those flipping medical experts and those scientists with all their knowledge and experience, how dare they...

It is a true description of the Labour Party. Would you prefer left wing and idiotic and not fit to govern?

Mass hysteria has made this far worse that it actually is, as epidemics go it’s not this killer disease that was going to tear through the UK's population. It kills mainly the very old and infirm; children and fit people under 60 often get away with mild or asymptomatic infection. About 99 per cent of them get better quite quickly. The raw death numbers that we have been bombarded with over the last months are highly unreliable and exaggerate the death toll. Many of the excess deaths will have been due to lockdown and its knock-on effects, rather than the virus itself. I think it's shameful how gullible large numbers of the general public have been, in believing this media driven narrative, cowering behind sofas. Let's get some sense of reality! and return to some sort of normality, instead of crashing the economy.

Quoted from realist

It is a true description of the Labour Party. Would you prefer left wing and idiotic and not fit to govern?

Literally an opinion and still doesn’t explain the phrase ‘looney lefty’

I thought this was a discussion about the Labour Party? I didn’t realise you were introducing the conservatives in that as well...

Quoted from aldi_01

Loony left is an odd turn of phrase...it’s neither an insult nor a positive, literally a nothing phrase...

Side note, those flipping medical experts and those scientists with all their knowledge and experience, how dare they...

What do they know....

A new report issued by a group of experts advising the UK government offers a blistering assessment of the country’s previous “herd immunity” approach to coronavirus, suggesting that as many as 250,000 people could die as a result—and that it would do little to stop health-care facilities from being overwhelmed.

The background: Last week, Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced that his country would adopt a different coronavirus strategy from the ones its European neighbors have followed. Most governments have sought to suppress the spread of the virus by reducing mass gatherings, imposing quarantine restrictions, and encouraging social distancing. But Johnson said the country would forgo such measures with an unusual plan to prevent the outbreak from overwhelming the health-care system and protect the most vulnerable groups during peak infection seasons. Under the strategy, at least 60% of the population were expected to contract the virus and get better—mostly younger individuals who would face only a mild form of illness. The government believed this would result in a “herd immunity” that would subsequently protect vulnerable groups from infection, while avoiding “behavioral fatigue” that would cause people to stop cooperating with safety measures over time.

Sharp realizations: That strategy was met with fierce criticism over the weekend. The Covid-19 Response Team based at Imperial College in London revealed on Monday that the government’s experts realized only over the last few days that its policy would “likely result in hundreds of thousands of deaths”—potentially 250,000—and that the burden on health systems would exceed their capacities and resources by as much as eight times.

"We were expecting herd immunity to build,” Azra Ghani, head of infectious disease epidemiology at Imperial College, told reporters Monday. “We now realize it’s not possible to cope with that.” Instead, the report advocates suppressing the virus with aggressive measures that would keep case numbers consistently low, in line with what many other countries are doing.

Correcting the ship: The UK government seems to have realized its errors and is now scrambling to to do better. On Monday, Johnson asked people to avoid “non-essential contact” and refrain from going to crowded spaces and venues. A ban on mass gatherings starts Tuesday. Families were urged to stay home for 14 days should any members exhibit symptoms, not going out “even to buy food or essentials.”

“The aim now is not to slow the rate of growth of cases, but pull the epidemic in reverse,” Neil Ferguson, an epidemiologist at Imperial College, told reporters Monday. “Hopefully there will [only] be tens of thousands of deaths. Maybe just a few thousand.”

Unfortunately, the report also suggests that isolation and social distancing might have to remain in effect until a viable coronavirus vaccine is produced, which could take as long as 18 months. “The only exit strategy is really vaccination or other forms of innovative technology,”

Quoted from realist

Good old Boris cutting off the left wing “reporters”. Move on, nothing to talk about. Amazing how they neglect to mention Blackford, Campbell and other politicians who have broken the guidelines because it doesn’t fit in with their agenda

You can birch Blackford, Campbell and Kinnock if you want.

I can’t vote for Blackford. I could never vote for Campbell. I didn’t vote Labour.

However Guido Fawkes wants to spin it, I don’t think any of the aforementioned are currently senior adviser to the PM. None of them have been present at SAGE meetings. None of them were involved in the government’s Covid-19 response or public guidance. None of them travelled 264 miles (x2 + 52 round trip to Barnard Castle) with alleged C-19 symptoms.