J.S.F. has announced he is not standing for re-election in May.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
The less influence that man has on our club, and the wider community, the better.
He's been exposed for what he is.
Sadly he's pocketing circa £2.5m and able to retire to live a quiet life, but the one thing he'll never be able to escape is the legacy he's left behind at GTFC.
No one will think of him fondly, and no one outside his family will have a good word to say about him. And no amount of money can buy back respect.
Hopefully we never see him or hear his name uttered ever again.
"Don't shine that light in my face, mate - I've just lost a pint of blood."
The less influence that man has on our club, and the wider community, the better.
He's been exposed for what he is.
Sadly he's pocketing circa £2.5m and able to retire to live a quiet life, but the one thing he'll never be able to escape is the legacy he's left behind at GTFC.
No one will think of him fondly, and no one outside his family will have a good word to say about him. And no amount of money can buy back respect.
Hopefully we never see him or hear his name uttered ever again.
Nice
You might have to edit it down for the blue plaque Day is trying to commission for the Main Stand though 😬
The less influence that man has on our club, and the wider community, the better.
He's been exposed for what he is.
Sadly he's pocketing circa £2.5m and able to retire to live a quiet life, but the one thing he'll never be able to escape is the legacy he's left behind at GTFC.
No one will think of him fondly, and no one outside his family will have a good word to say about him. And no amount of money can buy back respect.
Hopefully we never see him or hear his name uttered ever again.
Don’t disagree with anything you say but sadly, there really are people out there that still won’t have anything but praise for the cretin.
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I'm genuinely surprised that he's stepping down. In his ward he must have stood a decent chance of being re elected on the basis that a chimp with a blue rosette would get elected round there (and has been).
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And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
I'm genuinely surprised that he's stepping down. In his ward he must have stood a decent chance of being re elected on the basis that a chimp with a blue rosette would get elected round there (and has been).
Ha Ha! I got a red cross. Good morning John.
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Well that’s good news for the people of NE Lincs. The further he is from any levers of power the better.
It still rankles that he’s walking away from the club that he’s ruined, not only With every penny he spent, but in pocket to the tune of £200,000. He doesn’t give a fig for this football club, he only cares for only what he can get out of it.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
I'm genuinely surprised that he's stepping down. In his ward he must have stood a decent chance of being re elected on the basis that a chimp with a blue rosette would get elected round there (and has been).
Not everyone in his ward will be unhappy or wanting to be painted with the same brush so relief will be the primary reaction. Reading his words I think he has been under great pressure to do this since the May scandal broke and it was just a matter of timing. My guess is he could move out of NEL. It will be no great loss.
“If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.” ― John Stuart Mill, On Liberty."
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
I got 2 as well for merely stating a fact there are some very warped people on here.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
The less influence that man has on our club, and the wider community, the better.
He's been exposed for what he is.
Sadly he's pocketing circa £2.5m and able to retire to live a quiet life, but the one thing he'll never be able to escape is the legacy he's left behind at GTFC.
No one will think of him fondly, and no one outside his family will have a good word to say about him. And no amount of money can buy back respect.
Hopefully we never see him or hear his name uttered ever again.
In whatever corner of the globe there are Grimbarians his name will be forever accursed.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Does that mean the Golden Palm tree is a dead duck as well.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
At least Enoch Powell was right about one thing............All political careers end in failure.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
The less influence that man has on our club, and the wider community, the better.
He's been exposed for what he is.
Sadly he's pocketing circa £2.5m and able to retire to live a quiet life, but the one thing he'll never be able to escape is the legacy he's left behind at GTFC.
No one will think of him fondly, and no one outside his family will have a good word to say about him. And no amount of money can buy back respect.
Hopefully we never see him or hear his name uttered ever again.
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
I'm genuinely surprised that he's stepping down. In his ward he must have stood a decent chance of being re elected on the basis that a chimp with a blue rosette would get elected round there (and has been).
i suspect there may be more stuff to come and he's jumping before he's pushed
i suspect there may be more stuff to come and he's jumping before he's pushed
His ‘stepdown statement’ does sound like a pre-emptive strike:
“...those around me know I have been entirely honest and maintained the policies of transparency and the code of conduct that are expected of public office”.
Whiffs a bit of Terry Nutkins saying, ‘I did not have sėxual relations with that badger’.
His ‘stepdown statement’ does sound like a pre-emptive strike:
“...those around me know I have been entirely honest and maintained the policies of transparency and the code of conduct that are expected of public office”.
Transparency? Everyone has appeared on local radio regarding this, from alex.may to philip day, from the telegraph, to lloyd Griffith, to codalmighty, gtfo, countless fans, burnsy, tondeur, and everyone except the main person involved, mr fenty. Transparency? When is he being interviewed next?
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Wonder if the ex Courtaulds employee who lasted about 8 weeks and is now the Lord Mayor along with the ex Cleartec (Millenium) waste skip collector Sheppy, have anything to say publicly about this event. Maybe they could endorse the statement from JSL:- "I have worked extremely hard and those around me know I have been entirely honest and maintained the policies of transparency and the code of conduct that are expected of public office." As denni266 says in an earlier post:- "Remember that your past will follow you where ever you go. As there will alwase (sic) be someone who remembers it."
He might try and but some spin on his time on the council, but I hope to god he doesn't try and suggest that his tenure at Town is anything other than dismal failure. It looks like he will two relegations out of the League on his CV.
Perhaps now the club can make some progress with the new owners. Mr Fenty has presided over the darkest period of this once very great club. I don't want to start making comments about Tory politics but they have made the poor poorer and lined the pockets of the rich. Enough said otherwise I will be here all night.
Perhaps now the club can make some progress with the new owners. Mr Fenty has presided over the darkest period of this once very great club. I don't want to start making comments about Tory politics but they have made the poor poorer and lined the pockets of the rich. Enough said otherwise I will be here all night.
Well that’s what you did though wasn’t it, bringing up politics on a football forum? What the hell has that got to do with Fenty and GTFC? Just saying. #UTM
Well that’s what you did though wasn’t it, bringing up politics on a football forum? What the hell has that got to do with Fenty and GTFC? Just saying. #UTM
It has everything to due with the club's current state,for 16 years he has run this club along Tory monetarist lines which reduces the value of everything to the bottom line.He has failed to appreciate that the club is a community asset ,which is a link with past and future generations.Running a football club is not like running a fish merchants,you carry the hopes and aspirations of the community and you never own it you just hold it in Trust.Failure to see that entails you are off the same block as him.Just replying like.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
It still rankles that he’s walking away from the club that he’s ruined, not only With every penny he spent, but in pocket to the tune of £200,000. He doesn’t give a fig for this football club, he only cares for only what he can get out of it.
I'm not too fussed....essentially I reckon it's cost him around £4m. If he'd not bought GTFC and instead put his money in the stock market he'd have had around 6 or 7 million now.
We can always introduce a special ticket pricing scheme for former owners. £100k season ticket. 3 year saver ticket for £200k.
I'm not too fussed....essentially I reckon it's cost him around £4m. If he'd not bought GTFC and instead put his money in the stock market he'd have had around 6 or 7 million now.
We can always introduce a special ticket pricing scheme for former owners. £100k season ticket. 3 year saver ticket for £200k.
The way I see it is, the less money he gets the more there is available for other things. Whether it's spent on the club or the town. Fcuk, even if the Triumvirate use it to buy a case of vintage wine for Stockwood, a gold watch for Pettit and a piece of modern art for Shutes, I'd be happier.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Let’s hope he’s stepping down from a great height with no safety net
Much as I dislike the man, I'd draw the line at that. I know you might not mean it that way, but if his life is falling apart around him.....
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
I'm not too fussed....essentially I reckon it's cost him around £4m. If he'd not bought GTFC and instead put his money in the stock market he'd have had around 6 or 7 million now.
We can always introduce a special ticket pricing scheme for former owners. £100k season ticket. 3 year saver ticket for £200k.
Based on what I've seen of Fentys judgement he'd probably have struggled to break even. He'd have to have invested wisely to have made any money.
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
I'm not too fussed....essentially I reckon it's cost him around £4m. If he'd not bought GTFC and instead put his money in the stock market he'd have had around 6 or 7 million now.
It has everything to due with the club's current state,for 16 years he has run this club along Tory monetarist lines which reduces the value of everything to the bottom line.He has failed to appreciate that the club is a community asset ,which is a link with past and future generations.Running a football club is not like running a fish merchants,you carry the hopes and aspirations of the community and you never own it you just hold it in Trust.Failure to see that entails you are off the same block as him.Just replying like.
It is exactly the same. You employees rely on you for their income. It is far more important than the football club. Without these wealth creators, no matter how much you disagree with their politics, we would all be worse off.
I'm not too fussed....essentially I reckon it's cost him around £4m. If he'd not bought GTFC and instead put his money in the stock market he'd have had around 6 or 7 million now.
We can always introduce a special ticket pricing scheme for former owners. £100k season ticket. 3 year saver ticket for £200k.
It is exactly the same. You employees rely on you for their income. It is far more important than the football club. Without these wealth creators, no matter how much you disagree with their politics, we would all be worse off.
What a load of codswallop. Employers depend on their employees for their labour. Without labour there is no product or service and without that no profit. All the work done in the fish business needs to be done anyway, at least the end that Fenty was in.
It’s a bit different when someone comes up with an innovative idea that creates something out of nothing and genuinely adds real value. That’s when genuinely new wealth is created - when there is more stuff made or the same for less effort. The rest is just redistribution of money.
Wealth creators, my ars.e!
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Much as I dislike the man, I'd draw the line at that. I know you might not mean it that way, but if his life is falling apart around him.....
All down to his own hubris, karma does indeed work in mysterious ways.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
For me, what he decides to do with the £200k of shares gifted to him by the trust will be the indicator of the nature of the man.
Surely he must donate that back to the club?
The nature of the man was made clear when he pointed out how expensive his car was, implying it was a worse crime that someone scratched it.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
For me, what he decides to do with the £200k of shares gifted to him by the trust will be the indicator of the nature of the man.
Surely he must donate that back to the club?
Unfortunately you are talking about a man who's morals appear to be lower than a snakes belly..A man prepared to get involved with a fraudster with multiple convictions, bring him into the club, the town and community. Not a cat in hell's chance will he do the right thing and "gift" those shares back...he'll be tapping his back pocket like an Asda advert as he walks away!..
What a load of codswallop. Employers depend on their employees for their labour. Without labour there is no product or service and without that no profit. All the work done in the fish business needs to be done anyway, at least the end that Fenty was in.
It’s a bit different when someone comes up with an innovative idea that creates something out of nothing and genuinely adds real value. That’s when genuinely new wealth is created - when there is more stuff made or the same for less effort. The rest is just redistribution of money.
Wealth creators, my ars.e!
I believe JSF Sold a "freezing technique" to the Americans for several million which gave him a kitty to invest in 5Star and enable him to expand
What a load of codswallop. Employers depend on their employees for their labour. Without labour there is no product or service and without that no profit. All the work done in the fish business needs to be done anyway, at least the end that Fenty was in.
It’s a bit different when someone comes up with an innovative idea that creates something out of nothing and genuinely adds real value. That’s when genuinely new wealth is created - when there is more stuff made or the same for less effort. The rest is just redistribution of money.
Wealth creators, my ars.e!
Your reply puzzles me. Surely by starting up and running 5 star fish he generated a reasonable amount of wealth. By doing so he generated employment for a few hundred workers who would have been on benefits if not for their jobs. They spend money and the wider economy benefits. So you would sooner have a football club at the expense of greater unemployment and poverty? Try telling those affected what your priorities are and report back.
The nature of the man was made clear when he pointed out how expensive his car was, implying it was a worse crime that someone scratched it.
Any of the red crossers like to explain why you think differently?
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Your reply puzzles me. Surely by starting up and running 5 star fish he generated a reasonable amount of wealth. By doing so he generated employment for a few hundred workers who would have been on benefits if not for their jobs. They spend money and the wider economy benefits. So you would sooner have a football club at the expense of greater unemployment and poverty? Try telling those affected what your priorities are and report back.
The demand for the fish he sold was there any way. If not him, it would have been another business selling it. He wasn’t creating any work in a real sense. He just owned a business that got there before the others. Those jobs would exists within another business if not 5 Star Fish.
But without the workers no such business would make any money.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Any of the red crossers like to explain why you think differently?
Don't hold your breath the Fenty sycophants are complete cowards,they hide behind anonymity and just give red cross.Surely no one but a sycophant or a relative can attempt to justify his action.Love to have an opportunity to understand as to why they still support him
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Don't hold your breath the Fenty sycophants are complete cowards,they hide behind anonymity and just give red cross.Surely no one but a sycophant or a relative can attempt to justify his action.Love to have an opportunity to understand as to why they still support him
There are Fenty supporters, eg PP and Big Fil, who are very vocal on lots of issues. But not vocal on Fenty being a tw@ over the £80k car scratch remarks because even they realise that attitude is indefensible.
Very self-revealing remark by Fenty that night.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Any of the red crossers like to explain why you think differently?
I posted :-
I might be wrong but didn't he get govt. grants to build his fish business and when the grant repayment deadline passed he sold the company.
I's similar to getting £200K's worth of shares and not giving it back.
Then of theirs Mr May who's done his time.
Track record
Enough said
Equals 10 X's
As Kingston Mariner said " Care to explain why" don't mind the cross's but if you disagree with this post please say so. What did I post that is incorrect? or tell us what is so good about Fenty.
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
I might be wrong but didn't he get govt. grants to build his fish business and when the grant repayment deadline passed he sold the company.
I's similar to getting £200K's worth of shares and not giving it back.
Then of theirs Mr May who's done his time.
Track record
Enough said
Equals 10 X's
As Kingston Mariner said " Care to explain why" don't mind the cross's but if you disagree with this post please say so. What did I post that is incorrect? or tell us what is so good about Fenty.
I think it would be useful to remove the anonymity of the crosses, good or bad and the Gold Stars. You can see who gives you a good or bad reputation score if you want, so why not have the same ability for the crosses and stars?
You can just turn them off in the member centre & you won’t have to worry about them consuming your life.
You can say something like “I’m glad Fenty’s car got scratched, it’s a shame it wasn’t tipped over & set on fire” without having to worry about any little red crosses.
You can just turn them off in the member centre & you won’t have to worry about them consuming your life.
You can say something like “I’m glad Fenty’s car got scratched, it’s a shame it wasn’t tipped over & set on fire” without having to worry about any little red crosses.
Not the least bit worried about red crosses but am curious to what distorted individuals could still support him and their logic.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Your reply puzzles me. Surely by starting up and running 5 star fish he generated a reasonable amount of wealth. By doing so he generated employment for a few hundred workers who would have been on benefits if not for their jobs. They spend money and the wider economy benefits. So you would sooner have a football club at the expense of greater unemployment and poverty? Try telling those affected what your priorities are and report back.
I seem to recall that Bluecrest (ladysmith rd.))lost a lot of business and employees once 5* opened up. It was suggested that their was a connection with the senior managers of Bluecrest moving to 5* and taking their contacts with them. They would of course know the contract prices Bluecrest were charging and under cut Bluecrest thus gaining orders for 5*
This would mean a transfer of jobs and not additional jobs.
In your post you also fail to mention the fact that 5* had received govt. grants. In other words money we paid in tax's.
At the end of the day JF had a nice little earner for little input of capital and risk. He did not create additional wealth in the town as you suggest and merely changed the job locations. Of course my suggestions may not be true so if anyone comes up with hard facts to the contrary I will gladly apologise.
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
The demand for the fish he sold was there any way. If not him, it would have been another business selling it. He wasn’t creating any work in a real sense. He just owned a business that got there before the others. Those jobs would exists within another business if not 5 Star Fish.
But without the workers no such business would make any money.
Business only works if it has the staff to do the job.
Staff can only earn a living if a business employs them.
So they need each other a good business will look after their staff realizing what an assert they are.
Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner. 68 Years following the Town
John will be a massive loss to the council. He has done a tremendous job.
Well done John on a great role that you’ve fulfilled, and enjoy the time you have to now spend with your lovely family.
Thank you too for everything you’ve done in supporting Grimsby Town FC financially. You won’t get many thanks in this place, but you certainly have my gratitude for getting the club I love financially stable and keeping it that way
John will be a massive loss to the council. He has done a tremendous job.
Well done John on a great role that you’ve fulfilled, and enjoy the time you have to now spend with your lovely family.
Thank you too for everything you’ve done in supporting Grimsby Town FC financially. You won’t get many thanks in this place, but you certainly have my gratitude for getting the club I love financially stable and keeping it that way
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Not to mention taking the club back to non league by appointing a succession of disastrous managers ,but hey ho the club is in the black so he has been a great success.Seriously this is the mark of the mentality of people who support him,the club is financially stable and that is defined as success.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
John will be a massive loss to the council. He has done a tremendous job.
Well done John on a great role that you’ve fulfilled, and enjoy the time you have to now spend with your lovely family.
Thank you too for everything you’ve done in supporting Grimsby Town FC financially. You won’t get many thanks in this place, but you certainly have my gratitude for getting the club I love financially stable and keeping it that way
Not to mention taking the club back to non league by appointing a succession of disastrous managers ,but hey ho the club is in the black so he has been a great success.Seriously this is the mark of the mentality of people who support him,the club is financially stable and that is defined as success.
Like it has in its entire history, the football on the pitch and the relative football success and failure, will fluctuate and vary. Nothing will ever change that. There will always be ups and downs and that is just sport.
But you don’t get any of those sporting ups and downs if there isn’t financial stability on the table.
If people only ever expect forward momentum and success, then sadly they shouldn’t be pinning their hopes on a sport.
John will be a massive loss to the council. He has done a tremendous job.
Well done John on a great role that you’ve fulfilled, and enjoy the time you have to now spend with your lovely family.
Thank you too for everything you’ve done in supporting Grimsby Town FC financially. You won’t get many thanks in this place, but you certainly have my gratitude for getting the club I love financially stable and keeping it that way
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Not to mention the £200K in free shares you've got from the supporters, which I'm sure given the responsible moral upstanding man you are will be returned to the supporters. On the other hand you could be holding onto them, profiteering out of good fans and proving how the vile comments about on this site may be true.
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
Not to mention the £200K in free shares you've got from the supporters, which I'm sure given the responsible moral upstanding man you are will be returned to the supporters. On the other hand you could be holding onto them, profiteering out of good fans and proving how the vile comments about on this site may be true.
Is this a wind up or something? Those £200,000 of shares were not given to John by the supporters. They were given to him by the Mariners Trust and the members of the Trust decided to do that. They weren’t forced to do it, they could have held on to them if they wanted to. Why didn’t they?
Do you really think that the Mariners Trust was merely loaning John ownership of those shares? Don’t be daft. They gave those shares for a very good and valid reason and the bigger picture at that time.
Not to mention taking the club back to non league by appointing a succession of disastrous managers ,but hey ho the club is in the black so he has been a great success.Seriously this is the mark of the mentality of people who support him,the club is financially stable and that is defined as success.
this is the one that boils my urine
Newell - accepted as positive at the time Jolley - accepted as positive at the time Holloway - unanimously accepted at the time
its not like Guardiola had put in an application is it? If your argument is about financial support then you make have a case, but IM not privy to what sort of budgets the club have had, but he picked on more than one occasion managers that were welcomed.
As an aside at what point will you deem Hurst a disaster, and will you blame Fenty if and when we are relegated?
Is this a wind up or something? Those £200,000 of shares were not given to John by the supporters. They were given to him by the Mariners Trust and the members of the Trust decided to do that. They weren’t forced to do it, they could have held on to them if they wanted to. Why didn’t they?
Do you really think that the Mariners Trust was merely loaning John ownership of those shares? Don’t be daft. They gave those shares for a very good and valid reason and the bigger picture at that time.
I apologise, please replace supporters with Mariners Trust. The Bigger picture is now with the consortium so surely he would want to return the shares, this being a very good reason so they could add them to their existing share holding.
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
Is this a wind up or something? Those £200,000 of shares were not given to John by the supporters. They were given to him by the Mariners Trust and the members of the Trust decided to do that. They weren’t forced to do it, they could have held on to them if they wanted to. Why didn’t they?
Do you really think that the Mariners Trust was merely loaning John ownership of those shares? Don’t be daft. They gave those shares for a very good and valid reason and the bigger picture at that time.
Are you genuinely serious? What exactly was the good and valid reason? They didn't hold onto the shares because Mr. Fenty used threats and bullying to gain control of those shares. The only gain made by anybody from the exchange was that John Fenty tightened his grip on the club.
The fact that you distinguish between the supporters and the Trust shows that you and your friend have never understood the Trust. Mr Fenty has always been excrement scared of the supporters actually getting organised and thats why he always viewed the Trust(s) as a threat to his kingdom.
I will never thank him for anything. He is the opposite of King Midas, everything he touches turns to excrement.
Good riddance to him.
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
Is this a wind up or something? Those £200,000 of shares were not given to John by the supporters. They were given to him by the Mariners Trust and the members of the Trust decided to do that. They weren’t forced to do it, they could have held on to them if they wanted to. Why didn’t they?
Do you really think that the Mariners Trust was merely loaning John ownership of those shares? Don’t be daft. They gave those shares for a very good and valid reason and the bigger picture at that time.
I thought at the time he said he would only hold on to the 200k in shares whilst he needed them to remain the largest shareholder (thus protecting his investment as he saw it) and he would return them when this was no longer the case. I may be totally wrong on that but its my recollection. Therefore in the takeover scenario he should be returning them to the Trust.
I can assure you I did not view Newell as positive at the time,knowing several Luton fans his antics were well known and shows an appalling lack of due diligence in appointing him
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
I can assure you I did not view Newell as positive at the time,knowing several Luton fans his antics were well known and shows an appalling lack of due diligence in appointing him
Almost every manager he's appointed has been the popular choice except a couple of occasions.
Due diligence is hardly something that's easily done. Every set of supporters says bad things when somebody leaves, not least the fans of a club where he dobbed them in and set their downfall in motion.
Clubs can't go round saying all the bad things about managers to each other because the law doesn't allow it, much like I can't give somebody a bad reference if a new employer contacts me.
Like it has in its entire history, the football on the pitch and the relative football success and failure, will fluctuate and vary. Nothing will ever change that. There will always be ups and downs and that is just sport.
But you don’t get any of those sporting ups and downs if there isn’t financial stability on the table.
If people only ever expect forward momentum and success, then sadly they shouldn’t be pinning their hopes on a sport.
Still waiting for the ups Phil. Guess they will never materialise under JF now, but with his track record, they never would have.
By far the least successful period on the pitch in our entire history. 20 years going nowhere but down.
Almost every manager he's appointed has been the popular choice except a couple of occasions.
Due diligence is hardly something that's easily done. Every set of supporters says bad things when somebody leaves, not least the fans of a club where he dobbed them in and set their downfall in motion.
Clubs can't go round saying all the bad things about managers to each other because the law doesn't allow it, much like I can't give somebody a bad reference if a new employer contacts me.
The ‘popular’ choice as manager isn’t always the best option. Look at Wenger, Pochettino at Soton, Buckley...
Look at what populism has done to politics in the US, UK, France and beyond.
It should be easy for a football club owner to do due diligence on a prospective new manager. That doesn’t involve asking biased fans of clubs. Most owners speak to one another.
I ‘know’ (as in, I very, very occasionally speak to) owners and directors of clubs, from the Championship downwards, and whenever I mention I support GTFC, their eyes glaze over and it invariably involves them telling me that JSF is a complete moron.
Other owners and people within the industry could have told Fenty that Newell liked the 5.2% libido reducer or that Holloway was a charlatan.
Most of our other managers, I haven’t minded. It was mostly a case of wrong place, wrong time, wrong club (i.e. wrong owner).
His'' brilliance'' has left us at the very bottom of the football league,god help us if he had only been mediocre.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Almost every manager he's appointed has been the popular choice except a couple of occasions.
Due diligence is hardly something that's easily done. Every set of supporters says bad things when somebody leaves, not least the fans of a club where he dobbed them in and set their downfall in motion.
Clubs can't go round saying all the bad things about managers to each other because the law doesn't allow it, much like I can't give somebody a bad reference if a new employer contacts me.
You can give a factual reference, if the facts are bad then in effect its a bad reference. The only rules regards references are that they cannot be misleading , inaccurate or discriminatory. So for instance if Former Manager A had been disciplined for late time keeping, arriving drunk at work, violent conduct to other staff or other breaches of policies etc then that can be shared as it would be factual. If he was suspected of the above but never investigated and proven, then it couldnt.
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Remind me how many times our small club has graced Wembley Stadium under John’s tenure? We’ve had some terrific times. Oh and a trip to Cardiff too.
He’s appointed managers that were popular choices.
He has backed everyone of them financially and given every one of them more than a fair crack of the whip.
He’s been brilliant, and absolutely nobody can say otherwise. Without John you wouldn’t even have a club to support right now
Absolute rubbish. He was more interested in protecting his interests than the club. If we had gone into administration we could have wiped out all debt and emerged stronger as many lower league clubs did , we would have emerged stronger and been far better off now. Instead he paralysed the club by just putting in enough so the club survived, but more importantly, his loans weren't written off Then there was the debt to the inland revenue of withheld income tax
Is this a wind up or something? Those £200,000 of shares were not given to John by the supporters. They were given to him by the Mariners Trust and the members of the Trust decided to do that. They weren’t forced to do it, they could have held on to them if they wanted to. Why didn’t they?
Do you really think that the Mariners Trust was merely loaning John ownership of those shares? Don’t be daft. They gave those shares for a very good and valid reason and the bigger picture at that time.
Remind me how many times our small club has graced Wembley Stadium under John’s tenure? We’ve had some terrific times. Oh and a trip to Cardiff too.
He’s appointed managers that were popular choices.
He has backed everyone of them financially and given every one of them more than a fair crack of the whip.
He’s been brilliant, and absolutely nobody can say otherwise. Without John you wouldn’t even have a club to support right now
Two non league play off finals, Two FA Trophy finals plus a League 2 play off final. How many did we win Felipe? How many relegations? How many promotions? In debt. If thats brilliant I sure hope we never get someone who is crap.
Existence with him as benefactor was worse than death and rebirth. However he used propoganda from the pulpit to hide the real truth. As Baudelaire said “The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
There is only one reason he chucked his hand in is because he knows he would be voted out and his Ego just couldn't stand that.
In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions. Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them. GOD
John will be a massive loss to the council. He has done a tremendous job.
Well done John on a great role that you’ve fulfilled, and enjoy the time you have to now spend with your lovely family.
Thank you too for everything you’ve done in supporting Grimsby Town FC financially. You won’t get many thanks in this place, but you certainly have my gratitude for getting the club I love financially stable and keeping it that way
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Nice one Fillipe, come in the weekend but don't tell your mate.
Like it has in its entire history, the football on the pitch and the relative football success and failure, will fluctuate and vary. Nothing will ever change that. There will always be ups and downs and that is just sport.
But you don’t get any of those sporting ups and downs if there isn’t financial stability on the table.
If people only ever expect forward momentum and success, then sadly they shouldn’t be pinning their hopes on a sport.
Forgive me but remind me of all the ups in the last 20 years.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Remind me how many times our small club has graced Wembley Stadium under John’s tenure? We’ve had some terrific times. Oh and a trip to Cardiff too.
He’s appointed managers that were popular choices.
He has backed everyone of them financially and given every one of them more than a fair crack of the whip.
He’s been brilliant, and absolutely nobody can say otherwise. Without John you wouldn’t even have a club to support right now
intercourse me, if that's the measurement for success for you lot you probably think its a shame we got promoted back up to the FL. What with all the success of being a non-league club for SIX years.
"The greatest mistake you can make in life is to continually be afraid you will make one."
Remind me how many times our small club has graced Wembley Stadium under John’s tenure? We’ve had some terrific times. Oh and a trip to Cardiff too.
What you mean, Phil, is that you've had some nice little outings to Wembley and other places. That's on top of god knows how many years of sitting in the Executive Boxes at BP to watch games, get fed and watered, without having to pay a penny.
You're now disappointed that your master is leaving with his tail between his legs, but hope that by praising him on a forum we know he reads (Hi John!) he'll be impressed enough to let you carry his bag and cling onto his trouser pocket lining at his next venture.
I think that it was a very damaging period as my kids just could not get interested in watching a game against the likes of Dagenham and Solihull where there was absolutely no atmosphere. A lot of my sons friends were the same and so we have damaged our fan base. UTM
Seen plenty of people saying conference away days were great - most of them were absolute dross, save for a few in the last couple of years down there. I don’t think we ever sold out single Play-off semi away tie - at Newport, Gateshead, Eastleigh Braintree (fair enough Eastleigh...).
Winning team, bigger crowds, cup runs, Wembley visits and more income with lower wage bills. He loved it.
I hated it.
The thing is that was his criteria of success.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Seen plenty of people saying conference away days were great - most of them were absolute dross, save for a few in the last couple of years down there. I don’t think we ever sold out single Play-off semi away tie - at Newport, Gateshead, Eastleigh Braintree (fair enough Eastleigh...).
Barnet away was a great day. Beyond that, I can't remember any others.
Come on then Phil, let’s have a list of Fenty’s achievements as a councillor. I don’t mean getting promoted to be deputy leader or being made head of development - they’re purely political decisions by the party leadership.
What did he achieve for the community in his nearly 13 years in office. I suppose it can’t have been worse than his time running GTFC.
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Wow just seen this thread* as I’ve tried to steer clear of Fentybollocks since December. What a delusional bunch of people you and your supporters are John. You’ve got the money to set yourselves up elsewhere now - why not, eh?
Edit: how this thread has progressed. Posted quite early on 🥴
John will be a massive loss to the council. He has done a tremendous job.
Well done John on a great role that you’ve fulfilled, and enjoy the time you have to now spend with your lovely family.
Thank you too for everything you’ve done in supporting Grimsby Town FC financially. You won’t get many thanks in this place, but you certainly have my gratitude for getting the club I love financially stable and keeping it that way
I can't believe anyone seriously thinks Phillip Day posts on here
I feel the same.
But if someone had told me he would publicly stand up for a serial con man with several convictions for despicable crimes I wouldn’t have believed that either !!
The wife was going away for a girly weekend. I jokingly remarked 'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football' 'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked
She said 'Well you already know how to play football'
I mean this thread took on a life of its own...as a member of the community, not a GTFC, I’m struggling to see what Fenty achieved or did as councillor, aside from standing with his arms out on tollbar roundabout.
I think his major success was somehow finding his way up to deputy leader without doing anything other than being rich it would seem. I mean I guess had he not been rightfully exposed then getting in to bed with a convicted several times fraudster would’ve been regarded a success...to him anyway.
If he had a even a minister bit of honesty and integrity he’d have resigned immediately from all his roles, not just stepped down to councillor again. The sad thing is that I honestly think he believes he’s done nothing wrong.
That counts for GTFC too, he will walk away with with a pocket full of cash and honestly think he did a good job...
Deluded, and whilst I guess I understand his family still sticking up for him or claiming he’s done ok because I guess they have to but anyone else doing it is odd...
His love for the town..ruined the football team and tried to feather his own nest by getting in to bed with a convict not giving a hoot about the actual community...now he’ll leave town...good riddance I guess but once again shows how little he really cares. Not even the whiff of an apology...spineless...
'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
You lot have just no idea. You think that what John has done is merely accountable on a pitch. You also think that the published accounts are the only story teller. They don’t tell the half about the things he did out of his own pocket outside of published management accounts. The things he’s paid for personally, both for the club, and for people who work at the club.
There’s a former player that still lives in Grimsby, who actually is still involved in football. Go seek him out and listen to how highly he praises John for personally paying for private medical treatment he needed, out of his own pocket. Not the one and only time he did this either.
At every twist and turn, John has been there for the club, and for those employed there, and there have been many times when this has been at his own cost, out of his own personal funds, for no other reason than being a caring person, a generous person, and a good person.
When it’s all over, I have absolutely no doubt that there will be lots of stories that come out in tribute to just what a great man John has been for this club. Things John would not have wanted to be known at the time. Because he doesn’t seek adulation or plaudits. He does what he does for genuinely nice reasons. Mark my words, when it’s over, when he’s free from all of his ties, there will be people ready to tell stories that can no longer embarrass him about his generosity because he’s no longer a part of the club. Stories of truth that will raise a lot of eye brows and leave many keyboard warriors with egg on their face
But none of that matters to most, who are shameless in blindly following the black and white stripes, with absolutely no gratitude whatsoever to the man that ensured that the black and white stripes survived.
You lot have just no idea. You think that what John has done is merely accountable on a pitch. You also think that the published accounts are the only story teller. They don’t tell the half about the things he did out of his own pocket outside of published management accounts. The things he’s paid for personally, both for the club, and for people who work at the club.
There’s a former player that still lives in Grimsby, who actually is still involved in football. Go seek him out and listen to how highly he praises John for personally paying for private medical treatment he needed, out of his own pocket. Not the one and only time he did this either.
At every twist and turn, John has been there for the club, and for those employed there, and there have been many times when this has been at his own cost, out of his own personal funds, for no other reason than being a caring person, a generous person, and a good person.
When it’s all over, I have absolutely no doubt that there will be lots of stories that come out in tribute to just what a great man John has been for this club. Things John would not have wanted to be known at the time. Because he doesn’t seek adulation or plaudits. He does what he does for genuinely nice reasons. Mark my words, when it’s over, when he’s free from all of his ties, there will be people ready to tell stories that can no longer embarrass him about his generosity because he’s no longer a part of the club. Stories of truth that will raise a lot of eye brows and leave many keyboard warriors with egg on their face
But none of that matters to most, who are shameless in blindly following the black and white stripes, with absolutely no gratitude whatsoever to the man that ensured that the black and white stripes survived.
I guess the ex player is not the original macca who was rewarded for his undying loyalty to the club and years of not moving elsewhere for more money only to be offered a pittance of a final contract which he basically had no choice but to accept which Fenty knew.
Yes, let’s all praise John for being that man of integrity and generosity
It's funny that, because I know people who have been involved with the club who will tell you he is the biggest buffoon they have ever met and have nothing good to say about him at all. I'm sure there will be those who have an opposite view, but you can say that about most people.
At the end of the day, whether you think him a saint or a sinner, he has presided over a completely disastrous tenure as Chairman of GTFC. The stats don't lie and it's seems fitting that he will leave with the team on the brink of relegation to non league for the umpteenth time.
He tried, he failed spectacularly and should have moved aside long before now. The club would have survived without him, so don't give us all this "he saved GTFC" guff, because the fans wouldn't have let it die. We may have had to do what Wimbledon did, or Darlington are now doing, but we would have done it and it would have been much more fun in probability.
For some balance......i have been involved in several charity games played at BP down the years where our Sunday team were given free use of facilities to aid/ maintain the charitable sum raised. We could have played the games anywhere for free in reality but JF was found to be more than open and welcoming to host them.
I do still reserve the right to think he has made a bit of a pigs ear of the football club and has spearheaded some of our lowest moments though.
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Phil’s latest post sounds like BS to me. John Fenty not in it for plaudits and adulation. Hah!
And why stories about good things will come out when he’s no longer involved beats me. If there was much in it the stories would already be well known. You claim to know the stories Phil, yet deny you are Philip Day and are just an ordinary supporter.
Paragraphs and still couldn’t come up with one thing he’s done as a councillor to benefit the community.
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You lot have just no idea. You think that what John has done is merely accountable on a pitch. You also think that the published accounts are the only story teller. They don’t tell the half about the things he did out of his own pocket outside of published management accounts. The things he’s paid for personally, both for the club, and for people who work at the club.
There’s a former player that still lives in Grimsby, who actually is still involved in football. Go seek him out and listen to how highly he praises John for personally paying for private medical treatment he needed, out of his own pocket. Not the one and only time he did this either.
At every twist and turn, John has been there for the club, and for those employed there, and there have been many times when this has been at his own cost, out of his own personal funds, for no other reason than being a caring person, a generous person, and a good person.
When it’s all over, I have absolutely no doubt that there will be lots of stories that come out in tribute to just what a great man John has been for this club. Things John would not have wanted to be known at the time. Because he doesn’t seek adulation or plaudits. He does what he does for genuinely nice reasons. Mark my words, when it’s over, when he’s free from all of his ties, there will be people ready to tell stories that can no longer embarrass him about his generosity because he’s no longer a part of the club. Stories of truth that will raise a lot of eye brows and leave many keyboard warriors with egg on their face
But none of that matters to most, who are shameless in blindly following the black and white stripes, with absolutely no gratitude whatsoever to the man that ensured that the black and white stripes survived.
I mean it’s ok, he’ll keep you on his payroll once he’s finally out of town, you don’t have to keep getting your knees mucky.
I mean those so called good news stories would really help him now...but much like anything surrounding the chap, it’s balderdash and you know it.
Go build a snow man or something. Your continued attempts at being a WUM are becoming tiresome and prosy at best...
'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
You lot have just no idea. You think that what John has done is merely accountable on a pitch. You also think that the published accounts are the only story teller. They don’t tell the half about the things he did out of his own pocket outside of published management accounts. The things he’s paid for personally, both for the club, and for people who work at the club.
There’s a former player that still lives in Grimsby, who actually is still involved in football. Go seek him out and listen to how highly he praises John for personally paying for private medical treatment he needed, out of his own pocket. Not the one and only time he did this either.
At every twist and turn, John has been there for the club, and for those employed there, and there have been many times when this has been at his own cost, out of his own personal funds, for no other reason than being a caring person, a generous person, and a good person.
When it’s all over, I have absolutely no doubt that there will be lots of stories that come out in tribute to just what a great man John has been for this club. Things John would not have wanted to be known at the time. Because he doesn’t seek adulation or plaudits. He does what he does for genuinely nice reasons. Mark my words, when it’s over, when he’s free from all of his ties, there will be people ready to tell stories that can no longer embarrass him about his generosity because he’s no longer a part of the club. Stories of truth that will raise a lot of eye brows and leave many keyboard warriors with egg on their face
But none of that matters to most, who are shameless in blindly following the black and white stripes, with absolutely no gratitude whatsoever to the man that ensured that the black and white stripes survived.
who is this player? if you told us who he was then we could seek him out and listen to his stories like you want us to.
What a load of balderdash. Fenty is arrogant egotistical greedy selfish and i dont want him anywhere near this football club
Was he anywhere near it before he bought it and we became his platform raiser? People tell us he was a massive town fan but among the town fans I know nobody recalls him being at a game, especially away games (remember he’s such a fan he got the data wrong for arguably our most famous season)...
I think we all know old Phil is a billy bullshitter. We’ve all stumbled across ex players/managers who literally have nothing but contempt for Fenty and his ownership of the club.
'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
who is this player? if you told us who he was then we could seek him out and listen to his stories like you want us to.
Seems pretty obvious that it's Dave Smith. I don't know if it's true, but it's certainly in line with other things I know that he's helped people with.
But it really doesn't matter, most are so blinded by hatred that nothing will ever change their opinion. The only way that might change is if the incoming trio have less success or leave the club in the lurch like Ramsden et al. We're a long way from anything like that and it doesn't seem likely either.
Seems pretty obvious that it's Dave Smith. I don't know if it's true, but it's certainly in line with other things I know that he's helped people with.
But it really doesn't matter, most are so blinded by hatred that nothing will ever change their opinion. The only way that might change is if the incoming trio have less success or leave the club in the lurch like Ramsden et al. We're a long way from anything like that and it doesn't seem likely either.
Blinded by hatred or just sick to the back teeth of years of mismanagement of the club, a club they care dearly about? I mean it’s hard to disagree with them.
Using Dave Smith as an example is hardly the best option either, a man who found a career outside of football at the club, he’s hardly gonna come and slag him off. Some might argue that those people are equally as complicit in the mismanagement...
'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
You lot have just no idea. You think that what John has done is merely accountable on a pitch. You also think that the published accounts are the only story teller. They don’t tell the half about the things he did out of his own pocket outside of published management accounts. The things he’s paid for personally, both for the club, and for people who work at the club.
There’s a former player that still lives in Grimsby, who actually is still involved in football. Go seek him out and listen to how highly he praises John for personally paying for private medical treatment he needed, out of his own pocket. Not the one and only time he did this either.
At every twist and turn, John has been there for the club, and for those employed there, and there have been many times when this has been at his own cost, out of his own personal funds, for no other reason than being a caring person, a generous person, and a good person.
When it’s all over, I have absolutely no doubt that there will be lots of stories that come out in tribute to just what a great man John has been for this club. Things John would not have wanted to be known at the time. Because he doesn’t seek adulation or plaudits. He does what he does for genuinely nice reasons. Mark my words, when it’s over, when he’s free from all of his ties, there will be people ready to tell stories that can no longer embarrass him about his generosity because he’s no longer a part of the club. Stories of truth that will raise a lot of eye brows and leave many keyboard warriors with egg on their face
But none of that matters to most, who are shameless in blindly following the black and white stripes, with absolutely no gratitude whatsoever to the man that ensured that the black and white stripes survived.
Everybody is entitled to an opinion whether others like it or not, so I have one question.
Why did the supporters have to bankroll the club for a promotion push and not Fenty ? If he is as good as you make out.
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
You lot have just no idea. You think that what John has done is merely accountable on a pitch. You also think that the published accounts are the only story teller. They don’t tell the half about the things he did out of his own pocket outside of published management accounts. The things he’s paid for personally, both for the club, and for people who work at the club.
There’s a former player that still lives in Grimsby, who actually is still involved in football. Go seek him out and listen to how highly he praises John for personally paying for private medical treatment he needed, out of his own pocket. Not the one and only time he did this either.
At every twist and turn, John has been there for the club, and for those employed there, and there have been many times when this has been at his own cost, out of his own personal funds, for no other reason than being a caring person, a generous person, and a good person.
When it’s all over, I have absolutely no doubt that there will be lots of stories that come out in tribute to just what a great man John has been for this club. Things John would not have wanted to be known at the time. Because he doesn’t seek adulation or plaudits. He does what he does for genuinely nice reasons. Mark my words, when it’s over, when he’s free from all of his ties, there will be people ready to tell stories that can no longer embarrass him about his generosity because he’s no longer a part of the club. Stories of truth that will raise a lot of eye brows and leave many keyboard warriors with egg on their face
But none of that matters to most, who are shameless in blindly following the black and white stripes, with absolutely no gratitude whatsoever to the man that ensured that the black and white stripes survived.
Jesus Christ I've just been sick.
In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions. Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them. GOD
You lot have just no idea. You think that what John has done is merely accountable on a pitch. You also think that the published accounts are the only story teller. They don’t tell the half about the things he did out of his own pocket outside of published management accounts. The things he’s paid for personally, both for the club, and for people who work at the club.
There’s a former player that still lives in Grimsby, who actually is still involved in football. Go seek him out and listen to how highly he praises John for personally paying for private medical treatment he needed, out of his own pocket. Not the one and only time he did this either.
At every twist and turn, John has been there for the club, and for those employed there, and there have been many times when this has been at his own cost, out of his own personal funds, for no other reason than being a caring person, a generous person, and a good person.
When it’s all over, I have absolutely no doubt that there will be lots of stories that come out in tribute to just what a great man John has been for this club. Things John would not have wanted to be known at the time. Because he doesn’t seek adulation or plaudits. He does what he does for genuinely nice reasons. Mark my words, when it’s over, when he’s free from all of his ties, there will be people ready to tell stories that can no longer embarrass him about his generosity because he’s no longer a part of the club. Stories of truth that will raise a lot of eye brows and leave many keyboard warriors with egg on their face
But none of that matters to most, who are shameless in blindly following the black and white stripes, with absolutely no gratitude whatsoever to the man that ensured that the black and white stripes survived.
Feck me - Grimsby's very own Mother Theresa
ps you forgot to add how much he loves cuddly little kittens and the scores of starving orphans he's taken in over the years
You lot have just no idea. You think that what John has done is merely accountable on a pitch. You also think that the published accounts are the only story teller. They don’t tell the half about the things he did out of his own pocket outside of published management accounts. The things he’s paid for personally, both for the club, and for people who work at the club.
There’s a former player that still lives in Grimsby, who actually is still involved in football. Go seek him out and listen to how highly he praises John for personally paying for private medical treatment he needed, out of his own pocket. Not the one and only time he did this either.
At every twist and turn, John has been there for the club, and for those employed there, and there have been many times when this has been at his own cost, out of his own personal funds, for no other reason than being a caring person, a generous person, and a good person.
When it’s all over, I have absolutely no doubt that there will be lots of stories that come out in tribute to just what a great man John has been for this club. Things John would not have wanted to be known at the time. Because he doesn’t seek adulation or plaudits. He does what he does for genuinely nice reasons. Mark my words, when it’s over, when he’s free from all of his ties, there will be people ready to tell stories that can no longer embarrass him about his generosity because he’s no longer a part of the club. Stories of truth that will raise a lot of eye brows and leave many keyboard warriors with egg on their face
But none of that matters to most, who are shameless in blindly following the black and white stripes, with absolutely no gratitude whatsoever to the man that ensured that the black and white stripes survived.
I honestly think that you’ve been brainwashed or you’re after a bite which fair play if you are. The only keyboard warrior is you my friend as you won’t reveal your identity as you wouldn’t say this on any social media platform as you’d get laughed at and look silly like you’re doing now. You’re not doing dodgy John any favours. You can defend him all you like but the damage he has done is there for us to see. It’s the equivalent of you trying to tell us that Freemo flats are still standing when everyone else can see that they have been knocked down.
Seems pretty obvious that it's Dave Smith. I don't know if it's true, but it's certainly in line with other things I know that he's helped people with.
But it really doesn't matter, most are so blinded by hatred that nothing will ever change their opinion. The only way that might change is if the incoming trio have less success or leave the club in the lurch like Ramsden et al. We're a long way from anything like that and it doesn't seem likely either.
Dave smith likes fenty ha ha now that did make me chuckle
Seems pretty obvious that it's Dave Smith. I don't know if it's true, but it's certainly in line with other things I know that he's helped people with.
But it really doesn't matter, most are so blinded by hatred that nothing will ever change their opinion. The only way that might change is if the incoming trio have less success or leave the club in the lurch like Ramsden et al. We're a long way from anything like that and it doesn't seem likely either.
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I don’t know anything about John personally paying for Dave Smiths medical needs. Dave Smith is not the former player I’m referring to.
Have it your way. You’ll see soon enough.
Just imagine how much life saving / changing assistance John Saint Fenty could have provided if he wouldn’t have tried to avoid paying PAYE/NI by using an EBT (allegedly) and profited from £200k of shares being gifted to him.
What if JSF matched all of the cash the club have spent on compensation, matched the wasted legal fees threatening and litigating against anyone who disagrees with the deluded deity.
If I was a multi-millionaire I would like to think I would help people out and I wouldn’t have to rely on my daughter’s boyfriend to manipulate the narrative.
Everybody is entitled to an opinion whether others like it or not, so I have one question.
Why did the supporters have to bankroll the club for a promotion push and not Fenty ? If he is as good as you make out.
Supporters didnt have to bankroll anything. That was additional funding to enhance whatever budget would have been in place. The Club did not go begging. Whether the club would have been promoted without that extra cash is another argument.
Why would all these people wait until Fenty has left the club before they come out and say what a wonderful man he is? Why not say it before he goes? Why don't they tell us all now so we can beg him to stay? It seems a little odd to me that although we have heard many tales of penny pinching and poor treatment of players / staff, as well as the obvious mismanagement of the club, we have to wait until the tyrant has gone to hear stories of his greatness.
Fenty is like all despots. He rides in on his white charger, winning over the populace with his visions for the future, tales of prosperity and greatness, of how he is the saviour. As the empire begins to crumble he surrounds himself with sycophants and those who, blinded by his greatness, refuse to believe the evidence of their own eyes. As time marches on and the empire becomes a mere kingdom he placates the mob by replacing his generals with lesser men and with tales of a new palace rising up only a short distance from where the old castle is becoming decrepit. As the kingdom falls he makes questionable alliances, his contempt for the people shows and finally he hands over whats left of the once mighty empire to his enemies and goes into exile, whilst all the time his supporters fall upon their swords shouting to the world as they do "You'll see, you'll see" In the ruins of what once was, the people try to rebuild knowing that they can never regain what was there before.
Sorry I got a bit carried away, which is what you should be. You claim to have nothing to do with the club save from being an ordinary fan and yet you seem to know so much about the comings and goings during the time of the despot. J'accuse Fellipe
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
Have to say it's hilarious reading some of this. Old Fillipe casts out a massive juicy worm and the fish go into a feeding frenzy. He'll be sitting at home making the next one up as we speak, all increasingly ridiculous and it works every time Just ignore him people, and he'll go away
Supporters didnt have to bankroll anything. That was additional funding to enhance whatever budget would have been in place. The Club did not go begging. Whether the club would have been promoted without that extra cash is another argument.
So if the supporters money was not needed why did he accept it ? So why did the budget need enhancing, surely JF should have had the funds to enhance the budget for promotion . Given that JF accepted the money why didn't he suggest that he would return the money to the fans ?
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
So if the supporters money was not needed why did he accept it ? So why did the budget need enhancing, surely JF should have had the funds to enhance the budget for promotion . Given that JF accepted the money why didn't he suggest that he would return the money to the fans ?
The supporters wanted to be a part of the promotion push, and their fund raising was terrific. As a club we could not deny supporters wishes to do what they wanted. It was an amazing gesture and wholly appreciated. It was galvanising, and demonstrable of just how together the fan base was with the board and the entire club, in a collective desire to push for promotion. It was everything that Grimsby supporters are, just amazing supporters.
The supporters wanted to be a part of the promotion push, and their fund raising was terrific. As a club we could not deny supporters wishes to do what they wanted.
Who was the we
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Got it Fillipe is the toilet cleaner..but spent much of his time listning and looking at fentys office door// Thats why the loos where never clean ,, Oh and do you still have that squint you got from the cold draft through fentys door keyhole ,
The supporters wanted to be a part of the promotion push, and their fund raising was terrific. As a club we could not deny supporters wishes to do what they wanted. It was an amazing gesture and wholly appreciated. It was galvanising, and demonstrable of just how together the fan base was with the board and the entire club, in a collective desire to push for promotion. It was everything that Grimsby supporters are, just amazing supporters.
Nice statement, so can you answer the questions I raised. Can you also advise the fans, as the club did not want to deny supporters wishes and what they wanted, why the club did not maintain the push in league 2 and why the new stadium was never built in these 16 years. You are using the 'We' term so you are obviously on the inside as opposed to looking in from the outside.
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
The supporters wanted to be a part of the promotion push, and their fund raising was terrific. As a club we could not deny supporters wishes to do what they wanted. It was an amazing gesture and wholly appreciated. It was galvanising, and demonstrable of just how together the fan base was with the board and the entire club, in a collective desire to push for promotion. It was everything that Grimsby supporters are, just amazing supporters.
It’s a shame St John and his apostles (especially Stephen the Tax Collector) didn’t think the effort was worth it.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
You lot have just no idea. You think that what John has done is merely accountable on a pitch. You also think that the published accounts are the only story teller. They don’t tell the half about the things he did out of his own pocket outside of published management accounts. The things he’s paid for personally, both for the club, and for people who work at the club.
There’s a former player that still lives in Grimsby, who actually is still involved in football. Go seek him out and listen to how highly he praises John for personally paying for private medical treatment he needed, out of his own pocket. Not the one and only time he did this either.
At every twist and turn, John has been there for the club, and for those employed there, and there have been many times when this has been at his own cost, out of his own personal funds, for no other reason than being a caring person, a generous person, and a good person.
When it’s all over, I have absolutely no doubt that there will be lots of stories that come out in tribute to just what a great man John has been for this club. Things John would not have wanted to be known at the time. Because he doesn’t seek adulation or plaudits. He does what he does for genuinely nice reasons. Mark my words, when it’s over, when he’s free from all of his ties, there will be people ready to tell stories that can no longer embarrass him about his generosity because he’s no longer a part of the club. Stories of truth that will raise a lot of eye brows and leave many keyboard warriors with egg on their face
But none of that matters to most, who are shameless in blindly following the black and white stripes, with absolutely no gratitude whatsoever to the man that ensured that the black and white stripes survived.
Only we do have an idea and some of us have had the idea for a long time that your pal is a wrong un. Sadly it took a long time for the penny to drop with the fanbase majority but he was all out of cards up his sleeve when he was exposed in December. A sad little man with a dwindling band of hangers on like you who still hang on. I hope he gets what he deserves it`s been a long time coming and the next time I hear about him in the paper I hope its court report. Now crawl back under that rock and leave the fans of GTFC in peace. You know the ones who give their hard earned money unconditionally without taking it out. Benign Loans
Have to say it's hilarious reading some of this. Old Fillipe casts out a massive juicy worm and the fish go into a feeding frenzy. He'll be sitting at home making the next one up as we speak, all increasingly ridiculous and it works every time Just ignore him people, and he'll go away
Yeah hopefully under lock and key for 23 hours a day
Unfortunately I couldn't find a video of his cringeworthy 'what about the orange' exploits after the Spurs win, or getting carried off the pitch like an all conquering hero in 2008/09 when we avoided relegation only because other teams had large point deductions.
Unfortunately I couldn't find a video of his cringeworthy 'what about the orange' exploits after the Spurs win, or getting carried off the pitch like an all conquering hero in 2008/09 when we avoided relegation only because other teams had large point deductions.
Definitely not about him though.
Worry not, they’re in my dossier.
Here he is, front & centre in his cream jumper, at Trafalgar Square getting some promo shots -
There’s also video of him steaming into the middle of Omar Bogle’s interview after the PO Final, jumping around like an anus on live TV. Couldn’t find that one though.
Nice statement, so can you answer the questions I raised. Can you also advise the fans, as the club did not want to deny supporters wishes and what they wanted, why the club did not maintain the push in league 2 and why the new stadium was never built in these 16 years. You are using the 'We' term so you are obviously on the inside as opposed to looking in from the outside.
Can you now answer my questions which were 'So if the supporters money was not needed why did he accept it ? So why did the budget need enhancing, surely JF should have had the funds to enhance the budget for promotion . Given that JF accepted the money why didn't he suggest that he would return the money to the fans ?'
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
Here he is, front & centre in his cream jumper, at Trafalgar Square getting some promo shots -
There’s also video of him steaming into the middle of Omar Bogle’s interview after the PO Final, jumping around like an anus on live TV. Couldn’t find that one though.
If the cameraman had waited 10 minutes he would have seen JF scale the column and push Nelson off to take his place.
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Here he is, front & centre in his cream jumper, at Trafalgar Square getting some promo shots -
There’s also video of him steaming into the middle of Omar Bogle’s interview after the PO Final, jumping around like an anus on live TV. Couldn’t find that one though.
He couldn’t even get the tune right to the Omar Bogle song, the daft pillock
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
If the cameraman had waited 10 minutes he would have seen JF scale the column and push Nelson off to take his place.
And why not?! John wouldn’t have wasted so much gunpowder as Nelson and he’d have halved the grog ration.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Here he is, front & centre in his cream jumper, at Trafalgar Square getting some promo shots -
There’s also video of him steaming into the middle of Omar Bogle’s interview after the PO Final, jumping around like an anus on live TV. Couldn’t find that one though.
It makes me flipping sick, that day at Bournemouth was horrendous, I was stood there in shock at the back of the stand. Every time we’ve had any success on the pitch like the cup wins or that play off final, he’s been out there like he’s score the winner. Classless girl private! I know the players and staff took the urine at the time. I remember him coming out to the fans before the Tranmere game when we got relegated. I don’t remember him coming out at the end or a Burton.
It makes me flipping sick, that day at Bournemouth was horrendous, I was stood there in shock at the back of the stand. Every time we’ve had any success on the pitch like the cup wins or that play off final, he’s been out there like he’s score the winner. Classless girl private! I know the players and staff took the urine at the time. I remember him coming out to the fans before the Tranmere game when we got relegated. I don’t remember him coming out at the end or a Burton.
Will you please not mention that Tranmere game.
It's easy to figure out the reasons for his appearance at one and non appearance at the other. At Tranmere we were safe and it would take a number of things happening for us to get relegated, as it happens they did. At Burton we were down unless a miracle occurred, it didn't. So he took to the pitch to bask in the limelight at Tranmere because he wanted to appear as the saviour, surely there was no way we were going to get relegated and he could justify the appointment of Nicky Law. At Burton there was no limelight, we were going out of the league and it was his fault. Time to hide and hope something would distract the fans, as it happens it did with the trouble caused on the pitch by idiots.
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
Fellipe, you said As a club we could not deny supporters wishes to do what they wanted. - reply 159 this thread
Can you now answer my questions which were 'So if the supporters money was not needed why did he accept it ? So why did the budget need enhancing, surely JF should have had the funds to enhance the budget for promotion . Given that JF accepted the money why didn't he suggest that he would return the money to the fans ?'
I’ll happily answer that question.
The club had always provided a highly competitive NL budget, capable of gaining promotion. How many times had our budget got us into the play offs?
The additional funding was offered to the club in addition to the budget we had in place already. It was accepted as a kind and enthusiastic gesture by the fans, in a manner of good faith and appreciation by the club. As icing on the cake to a budget that had already proven to get us on the verge of promotion, albeit apart from some unfortunate play off outcomes. The Bristol Rovers game in particular
The club had always provided a highly competitive NL budget, capable of gaining promotion. How many times had our budget got us into the play offs?
The additional funding was offered to the club in addition to the budget we had in place already. It was accepted as a kind and enthusiastic gesture by the fans, in a manner of good faith and appreciation by the club. As icing on the cake to a budget that had already proven to get us on the verge of promotion, albeit apart from some unfortunate play off outcomes. The Bristol Rovers game in particular
So why the f@ck did it take us 6 years to get out of that tinpot league only for his penny pinching, tight ar£e running of the club sending us back down there again! The man is an ar£e of a chairman and gas now proven his has the morals of a skank alley cat!!.
The club had always provided a highly competitive NL budget, capable of gaining promotion. How many times had our budget got us into the play offs?
The additional funding was offered to the club in addition to the budget we had in place already. It was accepted as a kind and enthusiastic gesture by the fans, in a manner of good faith and appreciation by the club. As icing on the cake to a budget that had already proven to get us on the verge of promotion, albeit apart from some unfortunate play off outcomes. The Bristol Rovers game in particular
So what you are saying is that although the club had competitive budget it was not the best that could be provided, the word being competitive. After all if you want to compete at the top then you have to have the best budget in the league, so why didn't JF provide the best. You also have not explained an offer was not put forward to refund the monies raised.
I also asked you 'Can you also advise the fans, as the club did not want to deny supporters wishes and what they wanted, why the club did not maintain the push in league 2 and why the new stadium was never built in these 16 years.'
Can you now answer these questions ?
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
So what you are saying is that although the club had competitive budget it was not the best that could be provided, the word being competitive. After all if you want to compete at the top then you have to have the best budget in the league, so why didn't JF provide the best. You also have not explained an offer was not put forward to refund the monies raised.
I also asked you 'Can you also advise the fans, as the club did not want to deny supporters wishes and what they wanted, why the club did not maintain the push in league 2 and why the new stadium was never built in these 16 years.'
Can you now answer these questions ?
The budget was the best that could be provided under the known circumstances. We weren't making any money at that level, so where do you think the extra money should have come from? I know you think he should have donated his own money, but that was never an option, so the only option would have been more 'benign loans'. If the loans were much bigger, I don't think anybody would take over the club and he'd be in that position for another 15 years.
Why would the club not accept a donation from the fans? It was a brilliant initiative that brought enthusiasm to the season. It got nasty when we weren't storming the league and a small minority were making unfounded accusations and the added pressure of expectation got too much. Along with a rather naive statement that the money didn't make any difference because we'd have done the same thing anyway.
There have been a lot of very big clubs in our time in league 2. We can't compete with them financially. Our promotion team spluttered across the line, which meant a lot of the players were deemed not good enough and the better ones went elsewhere. Maybe they should have been offered better contracts, but the manager should be the one saying that and we've paid far more for other players in every year since, so some of it has to go down as the manager wasn't desperate to keep them (Vernam excluded).
There's too many reasons for why the stadium hasn't happened to list. The biggest problem is and always has been that there's no money to pay for it. Every incarnation going back to the 90's has had an enabling development as part of the funding but always leaving a substantial sum that the club had to cover. That coupled with the council not really wanting it, so choosing their preferred site by rolling dice and then later deciding it's the wrong place. Maybe with somebody who has a history of getting these projects over the line it would have happened, but maybe we needed to be further down the line to make that happen. Extreme Leisure clearly weren't the right people for the job.
The club had always provided a highly competitive NL budget, capable of gaining promotion. How many times had our budget got us into the play offs?
The additional funding was offered to the club in addition to the budget we had in place already. It was accepted as a kind and enthusiastic gesture by the fans, in a manner of good faith and appreciation by the club. As icing on the cake to a budget that had already proven to get us on the verge of promotion, albeit apart from some unfortunate play off outcomes. The Bristol Rovers game in particular
The whole point of Operation Promotion was to provide that extra little bit of money to push us over the line that we needed as we’d narrowly failed in the 2015 final. As it happened that ‘extra little bit’ was, what 6%? of the playing budget. A significant amount. We won the next final so clearly it helped.
You and your pals completely fcuked up the on-going opportunity that this provided the club by downplaying the contribution because you are petty minded jerks who wanted success to be all about you. Anyone with any sense in your position would have been able to leverage that goodwill instead you did the opposite.
Do one Phil/Stephen/John, whatever your real identity is.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
The club had always provided a highly competitive NL budget, capable of gaining promotion. How many times had our budget got us into the play offs?
The additional funding was offered to the club in addition to the budget we had in place already. It was accepted as a kind and enthusiastic gesture by the fans, in a manner of good faith and appreciation by the club. As icing on the cake to a budget that had already proven to get us on the verge of promotion, albeit apart from some unfortunate play off outcomes. The Bristol Rovers game in particular
If it was accepted in a manner of good faith and appreciation by the club, how come mr Fenty was recorded saying it was the worst thing that could have happened.
I mean nobody actually said Fenty should donate out of his pocket, and clearly his intention was never actually give the club cash rather loan it.
I think the club are quick to defend or claim they did all they can by providing an alleged competitive budget, yet happily took 100k. No issue there I guess but then to denounce that free money some 18 months or so later is churlish and just highlighted once more the level of contempt the club/custodians had of the fans.
I guess, like many, I’m still waiting for these big supporters of (not so) honest John. Now would be a good time for them to leap to his defence. I’m not sure they’ll be forthcoming, probably because they don’t exist or they’re reluctant to pin their colours to the mast of a bloke who associated with convicted and awaiting deportation fraudster, a man who abused his position of power within local government and who oversaw the worst period of time in the football clubs history.
There’s countless reasons those supporters will never come out, unlike our dear Mr Day, we’re all a little more pragmatic and realistic; we’ll never see them or hear from them.
I hope that an investigation and consequences, should they be necessary (I think we all know they will) will follow and sadly for Mr Fenty and his £80k car, his time locally is up. He could’ve had a political career, he could’ve had a positive impact on the local area, unfortunately, he thought of himself and his own interests. Little sympathy should be offered and little is deserved.
'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
I mean nobody actually said Fenty should donate out of his pocket, and clearly his intention was never actually give the club cash rather loan it.
I think the club are quick to defend or claim they did all they can by providing an alleged competitive budget, yet happily took 100k. No issue there I guess but then to denounce that free money some 18 months or so later is churlish and just highlighted once more the level of contempt the club/custodians had of the fans.
I guess, like many, I’m still waiting for these big supporters of (not so) honest John. Now would be a good time for them to leap to his defence. I’m not sure they’ll be forthcoming, probably because they don’t exist or they’re reluctant to pin their colours to the mast of a bloke who associated with convicted and awaiting deportation fraudster, a man who abused his position of power within local government and who oversaw the worst period of time in the football clubs history.
There’s countless reasons those supporters will never come out, unlike our dear Mr Day, we’re all a little more pragmatic and realistic; we’ll never see them or hear from them.
I hope that an investigation and consequences, should they be necessary (I think we all know they will) will follow and sadly for Mr Fenty and his £80k car, his time locally is up. He could’ve had a political career, he could’ve had a positive impact on the local area, unfortunately, he thought of himself and his own interests. Little sympathy should be offered and little is deserved.
Well said.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
I remember him saying at one of the AGM's that he believed no other Director of GTFC had ever lost money on the club.
So in his mind, he was only ever loaning money and was always going to recover the lot.
We fans on the other hand gladly hand over thousands supporting the club with never a thought of getting it back.
Fenty has always maintained that he is at heart a fan of the club. That being so, the least he could do is donate the £200k relating to the gift from the Trust, back to either the Trust or the club.
The budget was the best that could be provided under the known circumstances. We weren't making any money at that level, so where do you think the extra money should have come from? I know you think he should have donated his own money, but that was never an option, so the only option would have been more 'benign loans'. If the loans were much bigger, I don't think anybody would take over the club and he'd be in that position for another 15 years.
Why would the club not accept a donation from the fans? It was a brilliant initiative that brought enthusiasm to the season. It got nasty when we weren't storming the league and a small minority were making unfounded accusations and the added pressure of expectation got too much. Along with a rather naive statement that the money didn't make any difference because we'd have done the same thing anyway.
There have been a lot of very big clubs in our time in league 2. We can't compete with them financially. Our promotion team spluttered across the line, which meant a lot of the players were deemed not good enough and the better ones went elsewhere. Maybe they should have been offered better contracts, but the manager should be the one saying that and we've paid far more for other players in every year since, so some of it has to go down as the manager wasn't desperate to keep them (Vernam excluded).
There's too many reasons for why the stadium hasn't happened to list. The biggest problem is and always has been that there's no money to pay for it. Every incarnation going back to the 90's has had an enabling development as part of the funding but always leaving a substantial sum that the club had to cover. That coupled with the council not really wanting it, so choosing their preferred site by rolling dice and then later deciding it's the wrong place. Maybe with somebody who has a history of getting these projects over the line it would have happened, but maybe we needed to be further down the line to make that happen. Extreme Leisure clearly weren't the right people for the job.
Just found the Andrex
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
The budget was the best that could be provided under the known circumstances. We weren't making any money at that level, so where do you think the extra money should have come from? I know you think he should have donated his own money, but that was never an option, so the only option would have been more 'benign loans'. If the loans were much bigger, I don't think anybody would take over the club and he'd be in that position for another 15 years.
Why would the club not accept a donation from the fans? It was a brilliant initiative that brought enthusiasm to the season. It got nasty when we weren't storming the league and a small minority were making unfounded accusations and the added pressure of expectation got too much. Along with a rather naive statement that the money didn't make any difference because we'd have done the same thing anyway.
There have been a lot of very big clubs in our time in league 2. We can't compete with them financially. Our promotion team spluttered across the line, which meant a lot of the players were deemed not good enough and the better ones went elsewhere. Maybe they should have been offered better contracts, but the manager should be the one saying that and we've paid far more for other players in every year since, so some of it has to go down as the manager wasn't desperate to keep them (Vernam excluded).
There's too many reasons for why the stadium hasn't happened to list. The biggest problem is and always has been that there's no money to pay for it. Every incarnation going back to the 90's has had an enabling development as part of the funding but always leaving a substantial sum that the club had to cover. That coupled with the council not really wanting it, so choosing their preferred site by rolling dice and then later deciding it's the wrong place. Maybe with somebody who has a history of getting these projects over the line it would have happened, but maybe we needed to be further down the line to make that happen. Extreme Leisure clearly weren't the right people for the job.
I would suspect that you have an extra large supply always available !!
The wife was going away for a girly weekend. I jokingly remarked 'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football' 'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked
She said 'Well you already know how to play football'
Why do people have this misconception that John wanted a career in politics? Makes me laugh when I hear that.
He had no desire whatsoever to do anything other than serve as a local councillor, to serve the local community.
Also why do people jump to the conclusion that John introduced Alex May to the council? I’ve a feeling that an enquiry will raise a few eyebrows regarding the involvement May had at NELC, in terms of the number of meetings and the period of time this was over. Not that I am suggesting there’s been any impropriety in this, merely that it will likely go further than many will imagine. The council are neither naive or run by one person on these various committees
Further to getting carried off the pitch at Bournemouth I remember him getting loads of handshakes on his way downstairs at the end of the Notts County survival match.
Why do people have this misconception that John wanted a career in politics? Makes me laugh when I hear that.
He had no desire whatsoever to do anything other than serve as a local councillor, to serve the local community.
Also why do people jump to the conclusion that John introduced Alex May to the council? I’ve a feeling that an enquiry will raise a few eyebrows regarding the involvement May had at NELC, in terms of the number of meetings and the period of time this was over. Not that I am suggesting there’s been any impropriety in this, merely that it will likely go further than many will imagine. The council are neither naive or run by one person on these various committees
Can you answer my questions from about 3 hours ago ?
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
Why do people have this misconception that John wanted a career in politics? Makes me laugh when I hear that.
He had no desire whatsoever to do anything other than serve as a local councillor, to serve the local community.
Also why do people jump to the conclusion that John introduced Alex May to the council? I’ve a feeling that an enquiry will raise a few eyebrows regarding the involvement May had at NELC, in terms of the number of meetings and the period of time this was over. Not that I am suggesting there’s been any impropriety in this, merely that it will likely go further than many will imagine. The council are neither naive or run by one person on these various committees
I don't know who you are nor do I care to know but Jesus Christ, please stop spouting poisonous sh!te on here. Fenty has been caught firmly with his fingers in the till of Arkwright, that cannot and more importantly should not be defended.
Why do people have this misconception that John wanted a career in politics? Makes me laugh when I hear that.
He had no desire whatsoever to do anything other than serve as a local councillor, to serve the local community.
Also why do people jump to the conclusion that John introduced Alex May to the council? I’ve a feeling that an enquiry will raise a few eyebrows regarding the involvement May had at NELC, in terms of the number of meetings and the period of time this was over. Not that I am suggesting there’s been any impropriety in this, merely that it will likely go further than many will imagine. The council are neither naive or run by one person on these various committees
I'm having trouble with the idea that you actually believe what you are typing. I keep forgetting how much John Fenty wanted to do for both the town and it's football club. When was he planning the name change from Grimsby to Fentyville with his statue in St. James Square and a plaque underneath with the word Saviour writ large.
As for the introduction of May it really doesn't matter, the fact is that Fenty was prepared to go into business with him, that Fenty was prepared for him to have some sort of involvement with the football club and that Fenty was responsible for regeneration within the council and that May wanted an involvement in that too. Whether he introduced May to the council or someone on the council introduced May to him is of little import.
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
Why do people have this misconception that John wanted a career in politics? Makes me laugh when I hear that.
He had no desire whatsoever to do anything other than serve as a local councillor, to serve the local community.
Also why do people jump to the conclusion that John introduced Alex May to the council? I’ve a feeling that an enquiry will raise a few eyebrows regarding the involvement May had at NELC, in terms of the number of meetings and the period of time this was over. Not that I am suggesting there’s been any impropriety in this, merely that it will likely go further than many will imagine. The council are neither naive or run by one person on these various committees
Completely agree , John certainly didnt go into it to help push support for the relocation of his football club from the inside did he ? only to serve the people , to help save a roundabout and all that , great guy. What does baffle me though is why on earth did he just resign his posts , surely he wouldnt let the people he loves down , leave them out in the cold without a hero to represent them.....especially as you say he really hasnt done anything wrong in relation to the role of councillor and portfolio holder. Almost doesnt add up does it ?
It's as if maybe.....he isnt that squeaky clean and wholesome after all.......but as you say..no that cant be.
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Why do people have this misconception that John wanted a career in politics? Makes me laugh when I hear that.
He had no desire whatsoever to do anything other than serve as a local councillor, to serve the local community.
Also why do people jump to the conclusion that John introduced Alex May to the council? I’ve a feeling that an enquiry will raise a few eyebrows regarding the involvement May had at NELC, in terms of the number of meetings and the period of time this was over. Not that I am suggesting there’s been any impropriety in this, merely that it will likely go further than many will imagine. The council are neither naive or run by one person on these various committees
Do you believe the stuff you type or do you just go for it and see what happens?
You realise the first sentence makes zero sense is contradictory?
'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
Completely agree , John certainly didnt go into it to help push support for the relocation of his football club from the inside did he ? only to serve the people , to help save a roundabout and all that , great guy. What does baffle me though is why on earth did he just resign his posts , surely he wouldnt let the people he loves down , leave them out in the cold without a hero to represent them.....especially as you say he really hasnt done anything wrong in relation to the role of councillor and portfolio holder. Almost doesnt add up does it ?
It's as if maybe.....he isnt that squeaky clean and wholesome after all.......but as you say..no that cant be.
So you agree Extreme Leisure weren’t the right people for the job. Interesting. Did you tell John at the time (you know like when every man and his cat were saying they were wrong)?
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Maybe to his credit, but to the detriment of the club.
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
Well that appears to be a matter of constant debate
In your case I suspect Mass debate. ??
The wife was going away for a girly weekend. I jokingly remarked 'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football' 'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked
She said 'Well you already know how to play football'
Well that appears to be a matter of constant debate
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Net personal investment in club £0 Lost income from dropping out of the EFL £-3m Delivery of new stadium NO Devaluation of the product ABSOLUTELY
which also just happened to be in the environment he has no control over, cant call the voters into Fenty Towers to answer questions, cant threaten the voting public with closure if they say something he didnt like, cant threaten to sell off some council asset's if he doesnt get his way.
Just hope the EFL press that green light soon and we can be done talking about him.
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Do us all a favour and stop posting on here. If as you suggest you have been involved in the inner circles of the club then you have presided over the worst period in our history when the club’s biggest asset (the fans) have been treat like excrement. If you have not been involved with the club then you are a wind up merchant who needs to get a life. Either way sod off.
2002–03 First Division 24th of 24 Relegated 2003–04 Second Division 21st of 24 Relegated 2004–05 League Two 18th of 24 2005–06 League Two 4th of 24 Lost in the play-off final. 2006–07 League Two 15th of 24 2007–08 League Two 16th of 24 2008–09 League Two 22nd of 24 Relegated but not relegated 2009–10 League Two 23rd of 24 Relegated to Non League 2010–11 Non League 2011–12 Non League 2012–13 Non League 2013–14 Non League 2014–15 Non League 2015–16 Non League 2016–17 League Two 14th of 24 2017–18 League Two 18th of 24 2018–19 League Two 17th of 24 2019- 20 League Two 15th of 24
Net personal investment in club £0 Lost income from dropping out of the EFL £-3m Delivery of new stadium NO Devaluing the product ABSOLUTELY
Debate over..
Then there are the embarrassing off field events and happenings.
The only reason there is a debate is because there are still people like Felipe Noche and Pen Penfras who think the sun shines brightest when Fenty bends over.
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
Do us all a favour and stop posting on here. If as you suggest you have been involved in the inner circles of the club then you have presided over the worst period in our history when the club’s biggest asset (the fans) have been treat like excrement. If you have not been involved with the club then you are a wind up merchant who needs to get a life. Either way sod off.
Where have I suggested this? I’ve said on more than one occasion that I’m nothing to do with the club. I’m a supporter
It does occur to me Fellippe has an insatiable desire to be the centre of attention and with not being able to congregate at B.P. he is seeking attention on here with the premise negative attention is better than no attention. As an ex professional I detect narcissistic traits in his post,could I suggest we stop giving him payback by responding to his post it is what he wants.Let him wither on the vine
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
It took 18 years for the fans to truly turn on him. Until the other month when his dealings with the fraudster were outed, there was still a minority backing Fenty.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
It does occur to me Fellippe has an insatiable desire to be the centre of attention and with not being able to congregate at B.P. he is seeking attention on here with the premise negative attention is better than no attention. As an ex professional I detect narcissistic traits in his post,could I suggest we stop giving him payback by responding to his post it is what he wants.Let him wither on the vine
It certainly seems bizarre behaviour. To knowingly spout nonsense that even the most dim-witted person knows would make him a social pariah, but still to persist.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
So you agree Extreme Leisure weren’t the right people for the job. Interesting. Did you tell John at the time (you know like when every man and his cat were saying they were wrong)?
Still no answer from Phil. What a surprise.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
And so Is John Fenty at running a football club, i cant wait for him to go, he has presided over relegating our club into non league and is on track to do it again
His clingers on, lovebirds whatever you are, deluded blinded and clueless
Do you know very much about Extreme Leisure and their investment portfolio?
I think most are aware...I’m not sure it counts for much when one of its powers that be lets his wife slag off the very customers of an alleged potential investment...very odd.
Although, given what we’ve seen at GTFC over the years, it wouldn’t be regarded as unprofessional...
'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
Do you know very much about Extreme Leisure and their investment portfolio?
More to the point do you?
How about answering the original question? You said you agreed with a post which at the end of it said Extreme Leisure were clearly not suitable for the job. I asked you if you’d pointed this out at the time.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
2002–03 First Division 24th of 24 Relegated 2003–04 Second Division 21st of 24 Relegated 2004–05 League Two 18th of 24 2005–06 League Two 4th of 24 Lost in the play-off final. 2006–07 League Two 15th of 24 2007–08 League Two 16th of 24 2008–09 League Two 22nd of 24 Relegated but not relegated 2009–10 League Two 23rd of 24 Relegated to Non League 2010–11 Non League 2011–12 Non League 2012–13 Non League 2013–14 Non League 2014–15 Non League 2015–16 Non League 2016–17 League Two 14th of 24 2017–18 League Two 18th of 24 2018–19 League Two 17th of 24 2019- 20 League Two 15th of 24
Net personal investment in club £0 Lost income from dropping out of the EFL £-3m Delivery of new stadium NO Devaluation of the product ABSOLUTELY
Debate over..
Slight error BigDog, you're missing the £200k he's gone to steal from the trust from the Net personal investment.
Slight error BigDog, you're missing the £200k he's gone to steal from the trust from the Net personal investment.
For the moment, just stating irrefutable to date facts for Noche's information, TRJL. Until the details of the deal are finalised, that 200k's worth of shares could be JF's last chance to attempt for a phoney moral high ground, even though he hasn't paid a penny for them. And when the deal is finally done and announced, just to be sure he's gone for good, I'll need to see definitive video evidence of that leather jacket being lifted from his chair in the boardroom for the very last time, car park CCTV of half empty crates of Lambrini being loaded into a scratched 85k motor along with a beaten up heavily used tool box.. and he can take that non league Play-Off Final trophy with him too..
Perhaps Felipe could confirm or deny if John takes his own plate to a buffet?
If I was as unpopular as he is,I would take my own food taster.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Unpopular? You really do believe that John is unpopular 😂😂
Oh my goodness.
This story is far from over and I’m looking forward to some interesting twists and turns as this pans out.
Yes he is, he's pretty universally hated amongst town fans and with his last shenanigans in the community too.. He's popular with his brood of yes men and that is it...you, Marley, Day and all the cling ons!..
Unpopular? You really do believe that John is unpopular 😂😂
Oh my goodness.
This story is far from over and I’m looking forward to some interesting twists and turns as this pans out.
FFS
Yes he is. He's even more unpopular than you are and no amount of twists and turns are ever going to bring him any popularity. Start looking at the evidence rather than wishing upon a tarnished star.
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
Unpopular? You really do believe that John is unpopular 😂😂
Oh my goodness.
This story is far from over and I’m looking forward to some interesting twists and turns as this pans out.
Ah yes. Of course. We're all barking up the wrong tree.
It's going to emerge that the incredibly successful trio of Stockwood, Shutes and Pettit are all really crooks who will not only take the club backwards but absolutely ruin us. Tech visionary Stockwood is secretly keen on ripping out our high tech ticket booking system and replace it with a horrible modern system that gives instant access to information, whereas poor Lisa's ruler and biro were cutting edge.
It will also emerge that despite their involvement in major business, the trio thought it more beneficial to be involved in Grimsby Town, where they can move us from our state of the art stadium to one that's falling down, all on the promise of selling some houses overlooking the railway line.
Equally so Alex May isn't a convicted fraudster. In fact he's an upstanding member of society who was only trying to benefit the elderly people he attempted to defraud. Not a single one of those affected actually minded, after all it was a victimless crime, to the point that all stated the emotional distress and suffering they went through was good fun and well-natured.
Thankfully, Phil, we've got a legal eagle like yourself on the case to make sure we don't fall victim to any scams. I mean look at how well you put your skills to use when extending the contract of Charles Vernam and then of course how, again under your leadership, the club implemented the legal requirements in term of social distancing and protecting our employees during the pandemic. Admirable.
Unpopular? You really do believe that John is unpopular 😂😂
Oh my goodness.
This story is far from over and I’m looking forward to some interesting twists and turns as this pans out.
Just one word: dellusional.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Why do people have this misconception that John wanted a career in politics? Makes me laugh when I hear that.
He had no desire whatsoever to do anything other than serve as a local councillor, to serve the local community.
Also why do people jump to the conclusion that John introduced Alex May to the council? I’ve a feeling that an enquiry will raise a few eyebrows regarding the involvement May had at NELC, in terms of the number of meetings and the period of time this was over. Not that I am suggesting there’s been any impropriety in this, merely that it will likely go further than many will imagine. The council are neither naive or run by one person on these various committees
Nosh, lean over now and whisper into John’s ear from us all - good riddance
He's more more unpopular than the most unpopular man in Unpoplarsville.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Unpopular? You really do believe that John is unpopular 😂😂
Oh my goodness.
This story is far from over and I’m looking forward to some interesting twists and turns as this pans out.
FFS Just been sick again
In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions. Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them. GOD
Unpopular? You really do believe that John is unpopular 😂😂
Oh my goodness.
This story is far from over and I’m looking forward to some interesting twists and turns as this pans out.
Of course he is popular ,he's a multi millionaire . You end up with alot of people who "like" you when you're rich , I should know . Let's see how popular he is when he finally completes his legacy ... Getting his beloved Grimsby Town FC relegated to the NL at Blundell Park . That would be a fitting end to his tenure .
Fillipe 48 hours and no reply to my questions, any reason why?
I’m extremely amused that you feel because you ask a series of questions, that they warrant an answer from me. I’m even more amused that you believe I have the answer to said questions.
If I know the answer to a question then I’ll answer it.
If I have an opinion on a question, informed or otherwise, then I will share my opinion.
In the absence of an answer to a question, you may assume I have neither the answer or an opinion, informed or otherwise.
I’m extremely amused that you feel because you ask a series of questions, that they warrant an answer from me. I’m even more amused that you believe I have the answer to said questions.
If I know the answer to a question then I’ll answer it.
If I have an opinion on a question, informed or otherwise, then I will share my opinion.
In the absence of an answer to a question, you may assume I have neither the answer or an opinion, informed or otherwise.
So it must be that you don't know the answer because you seem to always have an opinion. I would have thought a man with your connections to the club and it's intricate workings would have as many answers as you do opinions.
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
Don’t get too carried away with yourselves though.
Got to start being more realistic about things guys.
Everyone has an opinion though I guess
Ciao, Au revoir, Auf Wiedersehen, Bye
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
The thing is what has come out about the Alex May affair is just the tip of the iceberg,it goes much deeper than is known in the public domain,doesn't it Fellippe.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
The thing is what has come out about the Alex May affair is just the tip of the iceberg,it goes much deeper than is known in the public domain,doesn't it Fellippe.
Hhmmm.......will all eventually be revealed though?
"The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That’s how I see football, that’s how I see life.” Bill Shankly
The thing is what has come out about the Alex May affair is just the tip of the iceberg,it goes much deeper than is known in the public domain,doesn't it Fellippe.
Not really in terms of the club. The club is a plc and so all investment into the club would have been transparent. If the club had accepted £1 million of investment, the source of that investment could never have been hidden.
Had Mr Mays investment been via a business vehicle outside of the club, such as a holding company purchasing a new training facility for the benefit of the club and wider community operations, that too would have been entirely transparent.
At council level, any meetings May attended with NELC for business purposes, for instance on feasibility etc. - would also have been minutes and are a matter of public record. Outside of council committee meetings, council executives and officers would also have access to records of these meetings.
There’s no cloak and dagger about any of this. Let’s be honest guys as the cards are clearly visible on the table. None of the fans May outrage is based upon anything that the club or John has done illegally. There’s no law against May investing money. The outrage is simply because football supporters felt morally obliged to vent their spline, and were steadfast in not wanting a person with a criminal record investing money in their club.
I wonder how many existing GTFC shareholders have a criminal record?
I wonder how fans would react if a gangster Russian wanted to buy the club? Or a Saudis Sheik with appalling human rights records etc.
Yea Friskney I’m sure it goes further as you suggested. Going further doesn’t mean illegality or impropriety though either.
There’s will be some very revealing clarity in due course.
The thing is what has come out about the Alex May affair is just the tip of the iceberg,it goes much deeper than is known in the public domain,doesn't it Fellippe.
I concur. The Alex May situation comes to light which then forces a resignation as Deputy Leader. He then announces that he is no longer standing for council. There is far far more to this than meets the eye in my opinion. Regeneration and property deals is a real murky world with incestous relationships being the norm.
Not really in terms of the club. The club is a plc and so all investment into the club would have been transparent. If the club had accepted £1 million of investment, the source of that investment could never have been hidden.
Had Mr Mays investment been via a business vehicle outside of the club, such as a holding company purchasing a new training facility for the benefit of the club and wider community operations, that too would have been entirely transparent.
At council level, any meetings May attended with NELC for business purposes, for instance on feasibility etc. - would also have been minutes and are a matter of public record. Outside of council committee meetings, council executives and officers would also have access to records of these meetings.
There’s no cloak and dagger about any of this. Let’s be honest guys as the cards are clearly visible on the table. None of the fans May outrage is based upon anything that the club or John has done illegally. There’s no law against May investing money. The outrage is simply because football supporters felt morally obliged to vent their spline, and were steadfast in not wanting a person with a criminal record investing money in their club.
I wonder how many existing GTFC shareholders have a criminal record?
I wonder how fans would react if a gangster Russian wanted to buy the club? Or a Saudis Sheik with appalling human rights records etc.
Yea Friskney I’m sure it goes further as you suggested. Going further doesn’t mean illegality or impropriety though either.
There’s will be some very revealing clarity in due course.
Short lived absence. Did you just want to vent your spleen?
"The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That’s how I see football, that’s how I see life.” Bill Shankly
Perhaps a few strategic F.O.I. request to N. E. Council would be in order.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Give over it is quite apparent that any involvement in the club was a precursor to accessing redevelopment funds
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
As daft as it seems, we should be grateful to this May character, because this whole episode has led to the speedy take over, and hastened the exit of Fenty. Had it not come to light, the Fenty would still be running the club, and Holloway would still be messing the team around. Doesn't bear thinking about does it?
'All the cards are on the table' giveover if some anonymous person had not blown the whistle and the press had photographed him at B.P it would have still been under the carpet.Could you tell us how many times Alex May had been a guest at B.P.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Yes what Noches is omitting to say is that it’s only on the table because Fenty/May/Day were caught BEFORE any transaction could take place. It’s clear with Fenty’s control of the club no one could have stopped it without the big public furore and consequent embarrassment to his political and business profile.
As for other shareholders possibly having criminal records, that is just a case of speculative whataboutism. It doesn’t excuse anything. The other key thing to note is none of the other shareholders come close to the £1m that May was going to put in so would not be able to exert a malign influence on the club.
Really Noches, if you are indeed Philip Day* you should be ashamed of yourself as a solicitor for spouting this nonsense. * my own view on this is that you’re more likely to be Stephen Marley given your recent comments and your unfortunate style of communication.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
PS as for Russian oligarchs and dodgy Sheikhs, or any billionaire with funny money or dodgy human rights records, they can go forth and multiply to. Rich crims? Nein danke!
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
The fact chums of the outgoing moron are still essentially justifying the discussions with May based on the fact nothing actually happened in the end indicates exactly the sort of folk you/they are.
A man that is allegedly well connected could’ve literally picked a phone up and found out that people like May are not people to get involved with. That didn’t happen, Fenty saw an opportunity to line the pockets of his ill fitting suit a little further, perhaps have that scratch repaired. He, along with the idiot from Bristol are smarting because they got caught. The statement from the club said as much, it went so far as to essentially blame the fans for turning away an alleged million pound. Now forgive us Day/Marley, whichever one of Fenty’s sycophants you are, but given the idiot from Bristol had allegedly put in 100k which turned out to be less than the price of two adult STs you understand that town fans are unlikely to actually believe that million quid would ever materialise, especially when promised by a bloke who has committed several serious acts of fraud and is awaiting deportation.
However, as you so eloquently put at the time, it’s not that serious though, he only committed acts of fraud against corporations and businesses (I’m sure you can see the irony), not dear old ladies. That makes a difference apparently.
Then we come on to Fenty the local politician, again Day/Marley, you mention (dis) honest John wasn’t after a career in politics but just wanted to do good for the town. Interesting, you see he was getting in to bed and liaising with a convicted fraudster about a business venture based on redevelopment and utilising government funding to do so; great I hear you claim, but it wasn’t locally, it for towns some miles away where nobody from his beloved Grimsby would benefit from.
In addition to this he, the great almighty one himself admitted that he had indeed broken policy and procedure by not keeping his information up to date, omitting what some would suggest as being a key piece of information, a business venture, a venture which could see him compromised and not forgetting, in bed with a convicted fraudster.
Now I’m sure Mr Day/Marley, whichever unimportant no mark sycophant you are, you’ll come here and say we’re all being unkind and we don’t know the truth (ironic because you’re assuming that we don’t understand or work in sectors and so forth, treating town fans with contempt and assuming we’re all stupid again, consistent, I’ll give you that). You’ll tell us there are people that support Mr Fenty and realise he has done nothing untoward (20 years of abject failure and inability to run a football club suggests otherwise but I’m sure you won’t say anything, let’s face it, did any of you know the club existed until your mate gave you a job?) and when this all comes out we’ll be left with egg on our faces.
Thing is, that’s unlikely, we introduced a criminal to the board before, we parades them about and then bang! A conviction for being one of the UKs biggest ticket touts, there’s still, I believe the ongoing issue with the tax man, the issue with the Mullens’ and then there’s just a catalogue of buffoonery and embarrassing moments that we’d all care to forget...but I guess we have to admit the forward thinking nature of (dis) honest John, we have a got a sink for the ladies and we have given Lisa a rollerball pen for when she’s filling in the book for STs.
Sadly, we all know that GTFC was a play thing for Fenty, a vessel for him to raise his profile, he wasn’t content to just be an extremely wealthy bloke in a back water town, his ego and narcissistic personality meant he needed more. That ultimately became his down fall, like I say I’m sure one of his chums will come to his rescue like some school yard crush.
It’s all alright though, old Phil says it is...it’ll all be alright. If it’s alright with you Phil my old queen, I won’t hold my breath...
'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
1,J.F. was not aware of Alex May's antecedents in which case he was grossly negligent in carrying out due diligence.
2 He was aware of his antecedents but lack of judgment did not prevent him from not getting involved.
Which one was it Fillippe.?
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
Perhaps a few strategic F.O.I. request to N. E. Council would be in order.
Absolutely. That is what is needed to nip this in the bud for the conspiracy theorists. And I’m sure John would be extremely comfortable about this too. Of that I have no doubt.
As daft as it seems, we should be grateful to this May character, because this whole episode has led to the speedy take over, and hastened the exit of Fenty. Had it not come to light, the Fenty would still be running the club, and Holloway would still be messing the team around. Doesn't bear thinking about does it?
It’s all a matter of public record. If people want to look into this stuff, then they are quite at liberty to do so
Short lived absence. Did you just want to vent your spleen?
I doubt very much he wanted to vent his spleen.
He did what many people do when they go fishing. He started to pack up ready to go home. But then realised that while so many fish were biting he would stay a bit longer. Of course, if there were no bites he would have just fuc*ed off home.
HINT FKING HINT.
The wife was going away for a girly weekend. I jokingly remarked 'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football' 'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked
She said 'Well you already know how to play football'
I’m extremely amused that you feel because you ask a series of questions, that they warrant an answer from me. I’m even more amused that you believe I have the answer to said questions.
If I know the answer to a question then I’ll answer it.
If I have an opinion on a question, informed or otherwise, then I will share my opinion.
In the absence of an answer to a question, you may assume I have neither the answer or an opinion, informed or otherwise.
You must be lawyer ducking and diving my questions, it's only took you about 48 + hours to make the above statement so I will refresh your memory on what I asked you.
'So what you are saying is that although the club had competitive budget it was not the best that could be provided, the word being competitive. After all if you want to compete at the top then you have to have the best budget in the league, so why didn't JF provide the best. You also have not explained an offer was not put forward to refund the monies raised.
I also asked you 'Can you also advise the fans, as the club did not want to deny supporters wishes and what they wanted, why the club did not maintain the push in league 2 and why the new stadium was never built in these 16 years.'
Putting my questions more simply, Why did JF not give the very best budget and merely a competitive one/, after all surely he would want a team to win the league/
Has JF made any provision whatsoever to refund the £200k worth of shares which according to this site is under his 'custodianship'/
You saidclub did not want to deny supporters wishes and what they wanted, so why has virtually everything else the supporters wanted been denied?
On a previous post from you you did refer to "WE" so you are in the know and have the information to answer these questions. These questions are not new ones but revamped old ones so I hope it doesn't lake another 2+ days for you keyboard to break into action.
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
The fact chums of the outgoing moron are still essentially justifying the discussions with May based on the fact nothing actually happened in the end indicates exactly the sort of folk you/they are.
A man that is allegedly well connected could’ve literally picked a phone up and found out that people like May are not people to get involved with. That didn’t happen, Fenty saw an opportunity to line the pockets of his ill fitting suit a little further, perhaps have that scratch repaired. He, along with the idiot from Bristol are smarting because they got caught. The statement from the club said as much, it went so far as to essentially blame the fans for turning away an alleged million pound. Now forgive us Day/Marley, whichever one of Fenty’s sycophants you are, but given the idiot from Bristol had allegedly put in 100k which turned out to be less than the price of two adult STs you understand that town fans are unlikely to actually believe that million quid would ever materialise, especially when promised by a bloke who has committed several serious acts of fraud and is awaiting deportation.
However, as you so eloquently put at the time, it’s not that serious though, he only committed acts of fraud against corporations and businesses (I’m sure you can see the irony), not dear old ladies. That makes a difference apparently.
Then we come on to Fenty the local politician, again Day/Marley, you mention (dis) honest John wasn’t after a career in politics but just wanted to do good for the town. Interesting, you see he was getting in to bed and liaising with a convicted fraudster about a business venture based on redevelopment and utilising government funding to do so; great I hear you claim, but it wasn’t locally, it for towns some miles away where nobody from his beloved Grimsby would benefit from.
In addition to this he, the great almighty one himself admitted that he had indeed broken policy and procedure by not keeping his information up to date, omitting what some would suggest as being a key piece of information, a business venture, a venture which could see him compromised and not forgetting, in bed with a convicted fraudster.
Now I’m sure Mr Day/Marley, whichever unimportant no mark sycophant you are, you’ll come here and say we’re all being unkind and we don’t know the truth (ironic because you’re assuming that we don’t understand or work in sectors and so forth, treating town fans with contempt and assuming we’re all stupid again, consistent, I’ll give you that). You’ll tell us there are people that support Mr Fenty and realise he has done nothing untoward (20 years of abject failure and inability to run a football club suggests otherwise but I’m sure you won’t say anything, let’s face it, did any of you know the club existed until your mate gave you a job?) and when this all comes out we’ll be left with egg on our faces.
Thing is, that’s unlikely, we introduced a criminal to the board before, we parades them about and then bang! A conviction for being one of the UKs biggest ticket touts, there’s still, I believe the ongoing issue with the tax man, the issue with the Mullens’ and then there’s just a catalogue of buffoonery and embarrassing moments that we’d all care to forget...but I guess we have to admit the forward thinking nature of (dis) honest John, we have a got a sink for the ladies and we have given Lisa a rollerball pen for when she’s filling in the book for STs.
Sadly, we all know that GTFC was a play thing for Fenty, a vessel for him to raise his profile, he wasn’t content to just be an extremely wealthy bloke in a back water town, his ego and narcissistic personality meant he needed more. That ultimately became his down fall, like I say I’m sure one of his chums will come to his rescue like some school yard crush.
It’s all alright though, old Phil says it is...it’ll all be alright. If it’s alright with you Phil my old queen, I won’t hold my breath...
That ably exemplifies the moral turpitude this present board has sunk to,if that is not enough there are still people trying to justify their position,has this world lost all its morality.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
In some ways it would be nice if the take over didn't go ahead and these clowns were left to sort out their own mess. That would shut up Noche
Why would that shut me up. Your assertion that I am a board member is wrong. I am not an executive, a director, or even an employee of Grimsby Town Football Club.
You must be lawyer ducking and diving my questions, it's only took you about 48 + hours to make the above statement so I will refresh your memory on what I asked you.
'So what you are saying is that although the club had competitive budget it was not the best that could be provided, the word being competitive. After all if you want to compete at the top then you have to have the best budget in the league, so why didn't JF provide the best. You also have not explained an offer was not put forward to refund the monies raised.
I also asked you 'Can you also advise the fans, as the club did not want to deny supporters wishes and what they wanted, why the club did not maintain the push in league 2 and why the new stadium was never built in these 16 years.'
Putting my questions more simply, Why did JF not give the very best budget and merely a competitive one/, after all surely he would want a team to win the league/
Has JF made any provision whatsoever to refund the £200k worth of shares which according to this site is under his 'custodianship'/
You saidclub did not want to deny supporters wishes and what they wanted, so why has virtually everything else the supporters wanted been denied?
On a previous post from you you did refer to "WE" so you are in the know and have the information to answer these questions. These questions are not new ones but revamped old ones so I hope it doesn't lake another 2+ days for you keyboard to break into action.
I think I made my position abundantly clear in my last reply to you.
Why do you feel there is more to answer? Why do think I’m in a position to answer them? Why do you come across as being so entitled to such info even if I had it for you?
Why have you also been so clever that you have missed my clearest clue to date of the many I’ve given over the weeks since the Alex May saga
Why would that shut me up. Your assertion that I am a board member is wrong. I am not an executive, a director, or even an employee of Grimsby Town Football Club.
I think I made my position abundantly clear in my last reply to you.
Why do you feel there is more to answer? Why do think I’m in a position to answer them? Why do you come across as being so entitled to such info even if I had it for you?
Why have you also been so clever that you have missed my clearest clue to date of the many I’ve given over the weeks since the Alex May saga
You said "As a club we could .". The 'we' infers by you in the context of the statement (Reply 153) that you are part of the the management. A fan would use the term 'The club'. You then go on to say "not deny supporters wishes to do what they wanted". The 'we' in the full sentence certainly suggests that the club did not want to deny supporters their wishes etc.
This is crystal clear statement by you and not an opinion. You write as if you are in a privileged position of knowledge about the club which mere mortal fans are not.
Not wishing to bore forumites with other details from your comments, you have brought all my questions upon yourself. You make statements, infer that you are in a position of information and then wonder in amazement why you are questioned.
I'm all in favour of free speech and opinions whether I like them or not. Democracy is what this country is all about. What I am not in favour of is people ( look in a mirror) who make a statement and then wonder why they draw questions from it.
Finally I have the faintest idea what "Why have you also been so clever that you have missed my clearest clue to date of the many I’ve given over the weeks since the Alex May saga " is all about. Your either on an ego trip or away with the fairies.
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
Not really in terms of the club. The club is a plc and so all investment into the club would have been transparent. If the club had accepted £1 million of investment, the source of that investment could never have been hidden.
Had Mr Mays investment been via a business vehicle outside of the club, such as a holding company purchasing a new training facility for the benefit of the club and wider community operations, that too would have been entirely transparent.
At council level, any meetings May attended with NELC for business purposes, for instance on feasibility etc. - would also have been minutes and are a matter of public record. Outside of council committee meetings, council executives and officers would also have access to records of these meetings.
There’s no cloak and dagger about any of this. Let’s be honest guys as the cards are clearly visible on the table. None of the fans May outrage is based upon anything that the club or John has done illegally. There’s no law against May investing money. The outrage is simply because football supporters felt morally obliged to vent their spline, and were steadfast in not wanting a person with a criminal record investing money in their club.
I wonder how many existing GTFC shareholders have a criminal record?
I wonder how fans would react if a gangster Russian wanted to buy the club? Or a Saudis Sheik with appalling human rights records etc.
Yea Friskney I’m sure it goes further as you suggested. Going further doesn’t mean illegality or impropriety though either.
There’s will be some very revealing clarity in due course.
Criminal record, he did time for stealing millions you male private.
I think I made my position abundantly clear in my last reply to you.
Why do you feel there is more to answer? Why do think I’m in a position to answer them? Why do you come across as being so entitled to such info even if I had it for you?
Why have you also been so clever that you have missed my clearest clue to date of the many I’ve given over the weeks since the Alex May saga
So it's obvious you are a female but who are you ...? . I know but I'll let the others have fun guessing first ☺️
So it's obvious you are a female but who are you ...? . I know but I'll let the others have fun guessing first ☺️
I'm not on social media but I did google Fillipe Noche and found on twitter a @FillipeNoche Commercial Solicitor, Director, Football Fan, Eternal Optimist.
So are you the elusive Mr Philip Day or
have you used his twitter name?
Of course as you said on a previous post if you don't know the answer then you don't have to reply do you!
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
Why would that shut me up. Your assertion that I am a board member is wrong. I am not an executive, a director, or even an employee of Grimsby Town Football Club.
Are you the front end of an behind noche? No Are you the rear end of an behind.....no
This defending Fenty like he's perfect is getting as boring as it is laughable.
Why can't you just admit he's brought himself, the club & the council into disrepute?
A good public servant doesn't get involved with convicted fraudsters.
Those are the key points you fail to acknowledge.
Because Golly, Malus Noches is a ****. The first letter is a C. Next is a U, third is N. You don’t need me to tell you the 4th.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Because Golly, Malus Noches is a ****. The first letter is a C. Next is a U, third is N. You don’t need me to tell you the 4th.
Is it Tuesday?
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
And when you fall back into the mud it hurts a lot. No! None of it was true, none of those things we thought we could see existed at all. All that was really there was still more misery
Wonder how long it will be before the swear filter catches up with that?
Until then, tuck off Noches you cunf!
My spellchecker wanted to change that to cûnt.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Imagine...imagine having the audacity to bemoan some folk taking the urine when your mate has operated a football club so disastrously and gaslighted and held the customers/fans with contempt for nigh on 20years...
'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
Is bullying like this permitted? Including playing with foul language to still present it in the context of foul language?
I’m not sure why I should be pilloried like this in such bad taste. It’s not right
You know all about bullying. The way that Matt Dean was set-up at that Fans Forum.
Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Is bullying like this permitted? Including playing with foul language to still present it in the context of foul language?
I’m not sure why I should be pilloried like this in such bad taste. It’s not right
Stop moaning nearly every post I make starts with X's. Get use to it, I have. It's not bullying it's called freedom of speech. If you express an opinion then others may not agree and express their opposition. You make statements so expect questions.
You have brought many problems upon yourself so before using your eloquent words and mocking others, think what repercussions will come your way. If I or anybody criticises you they get X's so is this bullying too.
Incidentally are you the Fillipe Noche on twitter or not. Yes or No
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
Stop moaning nearly every post I make starts with X's. Get use to it, I have. It's not bullying it's called freedom of speech. If you express an opinion then others may not agree and express their opposition. You make statements so expect questions.
You have brought many problems upon yourself so before using your eloquent words and mocking others, think what repercussions will come your way. If I or anybody criticises you they get X's so is this bullying too.
Incidentally are you the Fillipe Noche on twitter or not. Yes or No
Stop moaning nearly every post I make starts with X's. Get use to it, I have. It's not bullying it's called freedom of speech. If you express an opinion then others may not agree and express their opposition. You make statements so expect questions.
You have brought many problems upon yourself so before using your eloquent words and mocking others, think what repercussions will come your way. If I or anybody criticises you they get X's so is this bullying too.
Incidentally are you the Fillipe Noche on twitter or not. Yes or No
Are there two then
You wonder why you bring problems upon yourself. Another evasive answer to a yes or no question. You know the answer so why play games. Looks as if you're on another ego trip
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
In 18 consecutive seasons, bar one season when we lost in the play-offs, we NEVER finished in the top half of Division 2 or higher. When since 1980 we had about 20 seasons in the Championship equivalent.
The above consistently dire and appalling record is ok though if we have had numerous days out to Wembley.
In 18 consecutive seasons, bar one season when we lost in the play-offs, we NEVER finished in the top half of Division 2 or higher. When since 1980 we had about 20 seasons in the Championship equivalent.
The above consistently dire and appalling record is ok though if we have had numerous days out to Wembley.
ITV digital’s fault, did you not know?
'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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